Heavensward Predownload

I searched on this and was unable to find anything, my GFs home internet is slow so she'll roughly need about 3 days to DL Heavensward depending on the size, does anyone know if the PC version of the pre order will have the ability to download before hand? From what I've seen it's still not out yet

it should be downloadable on the day before early access starts according to what SE said if i remember right. not sure tough.

It looks like they're doing the regular maintenance > patch up > download routine.

Just hope there is enough time to download before early access otherwise it's just wasted download time

On the PS4 the download has a timer that's presently around 3 days. I'd imagine once that times out it will auto-download, assuming the PS4 is on at the time.

They never allow download before the final maintenance before patch/update/etc, it will be DAT mined within hours and will undoubtedly have market breaking information on it. Can you imagine if the servers were still live and someone had an inside tip that several items were due for a spike in price they would buy up the market. Also changes happen up to the last minute, so if they allow download now that's several days less testing/debugging before the patch goes live.

It sucks for people with slow net, but unfortunately there really is no other way to go about it.

Do we happen to know the filesize?

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

On the PS4 the download has a timer that's presently around 3 days. I'd imagine once that times out it will auto-download, assuming the PS4 is on at the time.

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On the PS4 it downloads a day before (June 18), the timer is for when you will be able to play it which is the 19.

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Originally Posted by ChillbroSwaggins

Do we happen to know the filesize?

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filesize info would be great because alternatively she can use our phone net which is 32432432432x faster sadly, but we're limited to 30GB

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Originally Posted by ChillbroSwaggins

Do we happen to know the filesize?

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I don't know the full filesize, but the download my code gave me for PS4 is 1.7 gigs. I figure this is just the core data though such as the area maps and such that is specific to the locations only accessible through Heavensward. The maintenance patch itself that will go out when they're done with the planned maintenance will likely hold all of the "real" data such as items, skills, ect as they all affect the areas outside the HW specific locations. Meaning the patch itself will probably be at least 4-10gigs, while the "Heavensward" download is only 1.7, (at least on PS4). Of course, this is purely speculation on my part, but maybe it'll give some idea in the matter......

Windows: Available space on hard disk/SSD 30GB

PS4: Required Hard Drive Space 50GB minimum

PS3: Required Hard Drive Space 20GB minimum

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Originally Posted by Wobi

It sucks for people with slow net, but unfortunately there really is no other way to go about it.

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They could encrypt the files, background transfer them(or offer a torrent), and then at the standard patch time distribute the key to the updater to decrypt them for installation.

I miss when FFXIV was patched via a torrent system. Sure it was a terrible torrent system but... it is better than the non-resuming mess we have.

B.net lets people download their expacs whole weeks in advanced. SE should figure how it was done.

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Originally Posted by TitaniaZero

I miss when FFXIV was patched via a torrent system. Sure it was a terrible torrent system but... it is better than the non-resuming mess we have

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I used my own torrent client for it because theirs wasn't the best.
But options like that were great.

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Originally Posted by Phafi

Windows: Available space on hard disk/SSD 30GB

PS4: Required Hard Drive Space 50GB minimum

PS3: Required Hard Drive Space 20GB minimum

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you can't go by that, it needs to decompress files so it needs more room then what the actual file size is

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Originally Posted by Phafi

Windows: Available space on hard disk/SSD 30GB

PS4: Required Hard Drive Space 50GB minimum

PS3: Required Hard Drive Space 20GB minimum

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Those number are for the full game, not just the expansion. They're also the installed game, not the download size.

My guess is that that 30gb limit on the phone subscription is more than enough to download the expansion more than once :)

I can understand that certain pieces of information can be data mined to the detriment of the community but I can't for the life of me understand why neutral pieces like textures and the 2.xx content in DX 11 mode can't be downloaded in advance. Things like that are little more than pretty pictures, but they allow us to get a head start on the big chunk of data coming on the day, particularly for those with slow connections or in remote areas like Aussieland here.

cause people will use model viewers to walk around the areas and stuff.

Cap the data transfer speeds at whatever rate will prevent the patching from completing prior to the start of Early Access. Now you've eliminated the concern of spoilers or early data mining.

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Originally Posted by Phafi

cause people will use model viewers to walk around the areas and stuff.

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But you don't have to attach the data to that sort of information, it can just be the parts that the later information will refer to. For example, the texture used in new gear, without information on what that gear is, what the requirements are for it, how to obtain it or anything else. Yes, someone could theoretically put the texture to a mesh and make an outfit out of it, but it still won't be useful or detrimental information and it means one less thing that needs to be downloaded on the day itself.

The only slightly (as in almost, maybe, ew but ok) valid reason I can see for not allowing the predownloading of neutral data like textures is the fact that the bigger the download on the day, the more staggered the times of patch completion will be, thus staggering some of the population and login queues. The problem with that is that everyone's paying for the same service and should have access to the servers from when they go back up.

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Originally Posted by Phafi

cause people will use model viewers to walk around the areas and stuff.

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nah more like to avoid the usual data mining

Glad to see most people are all for an early predownload, let's hope SE somehow takes this into account

It would make sense for them to allow downloads days prior to the early access period. I mean, you're looking at some 300k+ people downloading a pretty good chunk of data. There is no real reason not to do it.

The worry about data mining isn't really that big of a deal.

I really hope I can get this downloaded sooner rather than later. My internet is extremely slow too, it will take me days to download. Living in a rural area sucks.

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Originally Posted by Adire

I really hope I can get this downloaded sooner rather than later. My internet is extremely slow too, it will take me days to download. Living in a rural area sucks.

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I feel ya. I've got Comcast which advertises up to 12MB/s speeds and I only get 400kb/s downloading patches. I'm going to have to swing by my parent's place where they get 6MB/s on patches and download to my laptop and download on my home computer at a later date.

Considering the all-world maintenance is happening on the 18th and into early morning on the 19th, I don't see how we'll be able to pre-download it. Although I reaaaally hope we'll be able to patch the day before.