About that CGI trailer...

It's been discussed so many times before, yet we still don't have an answer. Part of me thinks we'll never get an answer, and that it was simply a concept that was eventually abandoned after they started work on the trailer. Either way, the lack of an answer has slowly been eating away at me, so here's yet another thread in hopes of finally getting some light shone on this by a rep.

I'm talking of course about the Adventurer's Guild.
http://i.imgur.com/EIwjX.png

As it stands, we really only know of three city-states that we don't currently have access to. Ishgard, Sharlayan, and Ala Mhigo.

Ishgard seems unlikely, as it doesn't appear to have any domed roofs: http://i.imgur.com/SxbXG.png

Unless the center of the castle is hollow: http://i.imgur.com/GqxKM.jpg
Even then, it's a stretch since the sky above the dome seems to be free of any surrounding structures. Plus, in this shot you can see outside the guild and the sun appears to be shining. There also seems to be towers in the distance: http://i.imgur.com/WiZ3S.png

We know Ala Mhigo was conquered 15 years prior to the start of the game, and I think it's safe to assume that Mor Dhona was destroyed around the same time, since it was supposedly Garlemald's first incursion into Eorzea - the two events would have occured around the same time. So if the character is in fact experiencing the echo, that would mean Ala Mhigo would have already been conquered at the time of the trailer, which pretty much, though not entirely, counts it out as a possibility.

The only thing we know about Sharlayan is that it is in ruins because of the Garleans. Again, most likely around the same time as the fall of Ala Mhigo. Plus Sharlayan appears to be far up north, and the flora within the guild doesn't really seem like it would grow that far north.

Is this just a concept created for the sake of the trailer, or will we actually see this guild and it's corresponding city in-game at some point?

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Originally Posted by Endemerrin

It's been discussed so many times before, yet we still don't have an answer. Part of me thinks we'll never get an answer, and that it was simply a concept that was eventually abandoned after they started work on the trailer. Either way, the lack of an answer has slowly been eating away at me, so here's yet another thread in hopes of finally getting some light shone on this by a rep.

I'm talking of course about the Adventurer's Guild.
http://i.imgur.com/EIwjX.png

As it stands, we really only know of three city-states that we don't currently have access to. Ishgard, Sharlayan, and Ala Mhigo.

Ishgard seems unlikely, as it doesn't appear to have any domed roofs: http://i.imgur.com/SxbXG.png

Unless the center of the castle is hollow: http://i.imgur.com/GqxKM.jpg
Even then, it's a stretch since the sky above the dome seems to be free of any surrounding structures. Plus, in this shot you can see outside the guild and the sun appears to be shining. There also seems to be towers in the distance: http://i.imgur.com/WiZ3S.png

We know Ala Mhigo was conquered 15 years prior to the start of the game, and I think it's safe to assume that Mor Dhona was destroyed around the same time, since it was supposedly Garlemald's first incursion into Eorzea - the two events would have occured around the same time. So if the character is in fact experiencing the echo, that would mean Ala Mhigo would have already been conquered at the time of the trailer, which pretty much, though not entirely, counts it out as a possibility.

The only thing we know about Sharlayan is that it is in ruins because of the Garleans. Again, most likely around the same time as the fall of Ala Mhigo. Plus Sharlayan appears to be far up north, and the flora within the guild doesn't really seem like it would grow that far north.

Is this just a concept created for the sake of the trailer, or will we actually see this guild and it's corresponding city in-game at some point?

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I always thought it looked like the adventurers guild in Ul'dah but with those little glass seperators between tables.

And now that I look at the pictures, a glass dome roof too.

It was probably just concept, though I think someone told me that area they fought the Marlboro in had Ishgard in the background or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

I always thought it looked like the adventurers guild in Ul'dah but with those little glass seperators between tables.

And now that I look at the pictures, a glass dome roof too.

It was probably just concept, though I think someone told me that area they fought the Marlboro in had Ishgard in the background or something like that.

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The opening CS is held in "old" mor dhona. As for the Adv guild. Its obviously a concept, something between ul'dah and limsa.

Well, could those countries still be intact while only the government collapsed? may be it is in Mor Dhona.

I tried getting some discussion about this one going a few days ago, but it went... nowhere. Better luck to you~ Here's my analysis.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...matic-Theories

I suppose it's possible that it could have been in Mor Dhona, but if there was a city there you'd think there would be some form of ruins in the zone, or indication of the city on the map.

It seems highly unlikely though, since I think they lay it on fairly heavily that the character is experiencing the echo - I.E visions of the past. Plus when the camera pans over the zone, you don't really see any buildings dotting the landscape.

OHHH, so when he is at the leve counter he is still in the echo?

He has the flashback after getting the leves. He ends up staring at one of the leves while at the table, flashes to the events at Mor Dhona, and then snaps back into the "present" at the end.

Ok, that's what i thought was going on. So, we are talking about the room were he is at present or the place they are fighting at?
because I've never seen that leve room before.

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Originally Posted by Endemerrin

He has the flashback after getting the leves. He ends up staring at one of the leves while at the table, flashes to the events at Mor Dhona, and then snaps back into the "present" at the end.

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Again I misunderstood the trailer, I always thought his vision was of the future, not the past. Can the echo go forwards?

Also not quite about the trailer but at the top of the forums where it says "Final Fantasy XIV Online forums", does that background move? It looks like it is but it may just be my eyes being weird.

Talking about the actual adventurer's guild the Elezen, Miqo'te, and Hyur are sitting in - as noted in the OP. Since he presumably experienced the echo ( I mean, I don't really know what else that intense of a flashback could possibly be. ), it seems safe to assume that the adventurer's guild in question existed after the fall of Ala Mhigo, Sharlayan, and the destruction of Mor Dhona - and may still be standing.

And it'd be a pretty big hole in the lore if the echo allowed a glimpse into the future, as it has already been stated that the echo works around the concept of reliving the memories of others. Can't relive memories that haven't happened yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnvVx...eature=related

I know you still have the data Square.
Make it happen.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnvVx...eature=related

I know you still have the data Square.
Make it happen.

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That teaser is what makes me think it's an abandoned concept. :<
Still would like an answer either way, just to put a nail in the coffin.

It probably is something they decided not to use a long time ago, But that doesn't mean it wouldn't be cool if it was in the game.

Endemerrin, I'm still lovin your sig. (^_^)

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Originally Posted by Rinoa

It probably is something they decided not to use a long time ago, But that doesn't mean it wouldn't be cool if it was in the game.

Endemerrin, I'm still lovin your sig. (^_^)

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GREAT SCOTT.

..And I agree. The fact that the guild is so large and even houses an aetheryte crystal makes me wonder what the rest of the city must look like. That guild is far more impressive than anything in the current city-states, so the city itself must be leagues above the rest.

I think it's suppose to be limsa or at least thats what the guild leve he set down seemed to say. so it probably was a concept like others here have been saying. I happen to have a guilde leve cell phone charm I got from a grab bag a the square enix store in tokyo, and it had a leve from limsa on it. When I first saw it i thought maybe mor dhona, but then my sis and I looked closer and it looked like it said limsa lominsa on it.

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Originally Posted by Endemerrin

Talking about the actual adventurer's guild the Elezen, Miqo'te, and Hyur are sitting in - as noted in the OP. Since he presumably experienced the echo ( I mean, I don't really know what else that intense of a flashback could possibly be. ), it seems safe to assume that the adventurer's guild in question existed after the fall of Ala Mhigo, Sharlayan, and the destruction of Mor Dhona - and may still be standing.

And it'd be a pretty big hole in the lore if the echo allowed a glimpse into the future, as it has already been stated that the echo works around the concept of reliving the memories of others. Can't relive memories that haven't happened yet.

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Maybe it was just one of those CGI trailers to say "this game will contain stuff like this" and wasn't based around any places or areas in the game.

Like how when you watch the opening cinematic to a single-player console game then none of the stuff in the cinematic is in the game. (Anime RPG's do this quite a lot)

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Originally Posted by Gramul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnvVx...eature=related

I know you still have the data Square.
Make it happen.

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I love that city so much, I wish they'd use it, everything about it I love!!! Come on SE =( pretty please

CG Movies of that quality take a really long time to make. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just an early version of a current city guild that got changed in development and by that time the movie was pretty far along or done. The movie would have been finished before the game so they have something to show people, too.

I wasn't aware that Sharlayan was actualy in ruins. Inaccessable, yes. Knowledge lost to the three current city-states, yes. But I never thought it was in ruins.

I mean, Papalymo, Yda, Thancred and Y'shtola are thought to come from Sharlayan. Could the city actually still be standing? I always held a theory of elected isolation rather than destruction. Which in turn means it could still host said video.

(Would be overjoyed if someone could point me to evidence otherwise.)

If I had to guess I'd say it's not meant to be any city that's in the game, but of course what do I know :)

But lorewise, considering we see the awakening of avatars and the airship battles raging right after, I'd say Ala Mihgo before it was destroyed. Who knows.

I'd say ships blew up and dragons got shot.

Other than that I have no clue, I kind of follow the plot on an 'as i encounter it basis', sort of... 'classic rpg' style. As such I know a fair bit about elementals and not a lot else.

It's probably that Thavnair place (or w/e it's called).

I'd wager it ends up being Ishgard though.

What I would like to know is what the meaning is behind the primals/eikons being emitted from the airship after the explosion.

My biggest complaint from the CGI trailer is the lack of Great Swords like the Hyur has. Giant swords are sexy...give them to us please!

My money is on Ishguard, hopefully we get to find out soon :D

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Originally Posted by Catapult

I wasn't aware that Sharlayan was actualy in ruins. Inaccessable, yes. Knowledge lost to the three current city-states, yes. But I never thought it was in ruins.

I mean, Papalymo, Yda, Thancred and Y'shtola are thought to come from Sharlayan. Could the city actually still be standing? I always held a theory of elected isolation rather than destruction. Which in turn means it could still host said video.

(Would be overjoyed if someone could point me to evidence otherwise.)

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Sadly, I don't think it is: http://i.imgur.com/3SpIa.jpg

:<

I was looking for a Thread like this!
I have watched the Cinematick Trailer more than 50 times and have gathered Interesting and cool things that I would like to see someday :D

Here's The SS:

Backpack: I, II
Cape: I
Barrier Magick: I
Mor Dhona: I, II, III
What City?: I, II
Knockback Effect: I
Water Effect: I
Dodge Evade: I, II
Monster Visual Effect: I
Arrow on the monster: I
Water Splash effect: I
Magic Effect: I, II, III
Battle Effects: I, II
Jump Attack: I, II
Enfire?: I
Greatsword: I

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Originally Posted by Gramul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnvVx...eature=related

I know you still have the data Square.
Make it happen.

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I am sooo happy to see this brought up. A while back, I tried to get a movement going based on the idea that this cinematic demo was our first impression of what XIV could someday be, and a lot of us (especially me) latched onto that.

I thought that, since launch went so poorly compared to the expectations brought on by teasers like this, we should celebrate the rebirth of Eorzea by building an homage to this image that otherwise never would have been; something we could tell future generations of Eorzeans about - what it is, and why it's there.

Where would be the perfect place for this? Ishgard: The final frontier signifying the birth of XIV's true Version One.

Unfortunately, though, that thread went dark a bit ago. If you'd like to help re-ignite it and get something along the lines of that demo built, I implore you to visit the link in my sig and see what we can do. As long as other people are replying to the thread, I'll keep doing the same - I just feel stupid double-posting for free bumps.

Now to go over to that thread wanting a tavern and shamelessly plug my idea there, as well.... Ishgard seems like a great place to have a Tavern, and I think the cinematic demo's aesthetics would make quite a nice bar, myself...

EDIT: @ANIMA I love the screenshot of the greatsword on his back, how the miqo'te behind him is looking at him like, "I would so hit that."

Even if you take out the edited down effects and such from that concept video.. --which actually isn't a concept video at all. It was made to show off crystal tools-- ...the city itself is an extremely appealing layout. In order to get away with all of those effects and height of those graphics though, you'll need an extremely powerful system as far as an MMO is concerned. A single player RPG can get away with graphics like that, but an MMO can't. Not yet, anyway and especially not when that video was made.

Agreed. Though, I just want to see something of the indoor aesthetic seen there, honestly.

Stained glass, stone tile, potted plants, and wrought iron everywhere.

The city itself looks like steampunk'd Limsa. Though, Ishgard has so much metal and indoor lighting that it might still look like that.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Agreed. Though, I just want to see something of the indoor aesthetic seen there, honestly.

Stained glass, stone tile, potted plants, and wrought iron everywhere.

The city itself looks like steampunk'd Limsa. Though, Ishgard has so much metal and indoor lighting that it might still look like that.

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Make no bones about it that if this were a town in FFXIV and just edited down to be optimized for an MMO. It would impress a lot of people, I think. Maybe we should start a campaign to turn this crystal tools showcase town into one we know exists, but cannot get to yet? For the future. That would be amazing.