Will servers be expanded for expansion launch?

One thing that freaks me out is that I nearly always get a queue when logging into balmung. And right now, not -that- many people seem to be playing.

If the population doubles when the expansion is released, will servers with heavy populations (like balmung) be able to handle the load?

I get disconnected a lot, and it would really suck if I couldn't complete a dungeon because of a 20min+ queue wait each time I have to log back in. Even now I occasionally miss out on a dungeon if I D/C near the end, due to the occasional long queue.

What is your queue like? Whenever I get a "world full, try again later" message, when I try again right away it lets me in.
My connection isn't the best, either, so I was just wondering.

Sometimes 30seconds, sometimes a couple minutes

I just remember all the issues at 2.0 launch

And remember people being scared to log out

I got it every time I try to log and just cancel click again and tada!

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Thats what those servers get for players moving from medium and low server to those servers BECAUSE it has most people for faster queues and way more groups in party finder.

This will be a hard few weeks for those servers, but then they will reign top for popularity soon.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

One thing that freaks me out is that I nearly always get a queue when logging into balmung. And right now, not -that- many people seem to be playing.

If the population doubles when the expansion is released, will servers with heavy populations (like balmung) be able to handle the load?

I get disconnected a lot, and it would really suck if I couldn't complete a dungeon because of a 20min+ queue wait each time I have to log back in. Even now I occasionally miss out on a dungeon if I D/C near the end, due to the occasional long queue.

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I'm on balmung.......and its full almost everyday when something new is posted. only time its not is really late at night o r weekday mornings. weekends-always full

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Originally Posted by AzraelX

I'm on balmung.......and its full almost everyday when something new is posted. only time its not is really late at night o r weekday mornings. weekends-always full

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yeap... Que never goes over 100 people unless there is a server blackout/crash, but it is often at least 10 and at most I wanna say 60 people in "Que" ahead of me.

I can see those on Balmung being concerned with this. And I'll probably be part of the problem since me nad my friends will be no-lifing to 60 on launch <_<

I'm fearful of the launch as well, being on Balmung.

The launch of 2.0 was horrendous and just over the top nerve racking trying to log in. With new people continuously transfering to Balmung from Low pop servers, I can only imagine the disaster being ten times as bad as 2.0's launch.

nothing we can do at this point but be hopeful

Well that's what happens when you roll on a legacy server. They need to lock them for a good long while.

I hope they bring back the auto-log out temporarily for people that AFK. :-/

I don't think servers are going to be expanded.

The only thing you can do (which is probably not even worth the trouble) is transfer to a low/mid population server if you are on a high populated one, do all story quests and transfer back when you think it's time

Doubt it. The most they might do is lock character creation indefinitely until it settles down on full/high population servers and funnel new character creations into the medium population and lower servers.

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

Well that's what happens when you roll on a legacy server. They need to lock them for a good long while.

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Some of us have been on Balmung since before it was ever named Balmung. I fully expect there to be queues, but since its so active as it is, and the server has been closed for so long, I feel that it will actually be less impacted. I could be wrong, but who knows.

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Originally Posted by Tempting

Thats what those servers get for players moving from medium and low server to those servers BECAUSE it has most people for faster queues and way more groups in party finder.

This will be a hard few weeks for those servers, but then they will reign top for popularity soon.

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Queue times have nothing to do with which server you're on. It depends on which data center you're in. Instances are shared between a whole data center.

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Originally Posted by Hieral

Queue times have nothing to do with which server you're on. It depends on which data center you're in. Instances are shared between a whole data center.

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It sounds like you're talking about dungeon queues when I think the topic has been about login queues that hit you when you first log on to the server. As a Balmunger myself, I've never seen my place in queue higher than 100th. And before Balmung, I was on Behemoth and logging on there was just as painful.

Though I agree, that because Balmung has been closed to character creations except for odd hours of the morning, I'm optimistic about how early access will impact Balmung. I don't remember being any issues in Limsa when Rogue first launched.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Though I agree, that because Balmung has been closed to character creations except for odd hours of the morning, I'm optimistic about how early access will impact Balmung. I don't remember being any issues in Limsa when Rogue first launched.

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problem is people now know to wait until early in the morning so it's unlocked - it needs to be locked continuously for a period of time.

Well a lot of this is the "New game train" and its temporary. I think a lot of the newcomers will be routed to the low pop servers. And the main story requirements will keep the band waggon hoppers out of the new areas for a couple weeks. While all the returning players will drag it down a bit. It shouldn't be as bad as launch.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

One thing that freaks me out is that I nearly always get a queue when logging into balmung. And right now, not -that- many people seem to be playing.

If the population doubles when the expansion is released, will servers with heavy populations (like balmung) be able to handle the load?

I get disconnected a lot, and it would really suck if I couldn't complete a dungeon because of a 20min+ queue wait each time I have to log back in. Even now I occasionally miss out on a dungeon if I D/C near the end, due to the occasional long queue.

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How can Balmung's population possibly double when you need to make a blood offering to get a character made on it?

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Originally Posted by HorseBoots

How can Balmung's population possibly double when you need to make a blood offering to get a character made on it?

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I know a lot of ppl on balmung still have a character on there, but haven't been online for half a year. I have a feeling most of them will all come back at once to try out the expansion. So there's a chance that there will be double the normal amount of people -playing-.

So overall population may not increase
But the # of people trying to play at once may spike for a few weeks

Personally, I think the "lock" needs to stay in effect on Balmung for a while, and this includes Character transfers onto it. It's pointless to put a character creation lock on a server, but then allow someone to go to Cactuar or whatever, create a level 1 char and then pay to transfer it onto balmung. Locked needs to mean locked, that or offer some incentives to FCs to transfer OFF Balmung. a combonation of both would work wonders.

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Originally Posted by Azper

I hope they bring back the auto-log out temporarily for people that AFK. :-/

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This is all they need to do to alleviate most of the problem. People never logging out is 99% of the reason there are queue times.

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Originally Posted by XxSliphxX

This is all they need to do to alleviate most of the problem. People never logging out is 99% of the reason there are queue times.

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Actually, it doesn't quite work like that :)

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Originally Posted by XxSliphxX

This is all they need to do to alleviate most of the problem. People never logging out is 99% of the reason there are queue times.

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Originally Posted by Wings

Actually, it doesn't quite work like that :)

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Actually it does. At launch due to the queues people would AFK so they didn't need to re-queue when they can back to play the game, sometimes overnight, so this exacerbated the problem and made the queues even longer. When they implemented the AFK kick the queues virtually disappeared.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

One thing that freaks me out is that I nearly always get a queue when logging into balmung. And right now, not -that- many people seem to be playing.

If the population doubles when the expansion is released, will servers with heavy populations (like balmung) be able to handle the load?

I get disconnected a lot, and it would really suck if I couldn't complete a dungeon because of a 20min+ queue wait each time I have to log back in. Even now I occasionally miss out on a dungeon if I D/C near the end, due to the occasional long queue.

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Remember the gold saucer on day 1 on balmung haha id say we are in for a lot of sitting or crashing if they don't do something

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Originally Posted by SakuraMidori

Remember the gold saucer on day 1 on balmung haha id say we are in for a lot of sitting or crashing if they don't do something

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LOL yes... I remember spending hours just trying to get into the zone.

Was better the next few days, but still had to spend like 20min each time

I really don't want to deal with that again x_x

Good Solution: SE sets up so you can free transfer to Medium/Low population servers instead of the "ridiculously full" status it is now.

Only problem is the gil transfer limit, they couldn't increase it cause you would destroy the lower markets since WAY more gil is circulated on Balmung and other very high servers.

Bad Solution: SE raises limit of people on Balmung and other capped servers, but this will just bring more people to transfer to server and kill other servers slowly.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

It sounds like you're talking about dungeon queues when I think the topic has been about login queues that hit you when you first log on to the server. As a Balmunger myself, I've never seen my place in queue higher than 100th. And before Balmung, I was on Behemoth and logging on there was just as painful.

Though I agree, that because Balmung has been closed to character creations except for odd hours of the morning, I'm optimistic about how early access will impact Balmung. I don't remember being any issues in Limsa when Rogue first launched.

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It applies to login as well. There is one logon service that manages the logins for all the worlds in that data center. When I login to neolobby02 to get to Midgard I am competing against everyone logging into any world in the aether group. That is all simultaneous login sessions for 13 worlds, each hosted on 3 or more IP addresses.

That is a LOT of sessions to manage, and where that backlash occurs. The session pool for the lobby server is getting exhausted, not necessarily your world service.

I get a queue on Phoenix every day during peak hours (short though), and even when Gold Saucer came out, there wasn't any problems at all, other than the actual Gold Saucer area being full... Don't know if the queues are caused by something else, because while there still is tons of people online, it's a lot less crowded then it usually is.

If you didn't have any problems when Gold Saucer came out, I don't think it will be a problem now... Gold Saucer brought back a ton of people, and while Heavensward probably is attracting a lot more new players, if your server is full, then they won't be able to create new characters anyway.

I'm on Leviathan and sometimes there is a login queue, but not always. I'd say I get one once a week. I don't believe they will expand servers because they will expect players to fill the less populated servers.

While I'm definitely one of the people considering (keyword: considering. So far I probably won't be) a transfer to Balmung, at the same time I would definitely understand if they just locked it down even from transfers. Doesn't matter what incentives you put in place, so long as almost every internet source relating to this game recommends Balmung and only Balmung to new players and transfers alike, things will not change unless SE puts a hard server lock.

That's half the reason why so many people flood to Balmung. Literally everywhere you look you get told "Balmung, Gilgamesh, or bust." Which isn't a bad thing, it shows people love it there. But if people want others to stop transferring to Balmung we've got to try to get other servers to speak up if SE won't do it.