Heavensward DOH Leveling Plan?

Hey everyone!

I was curious what others were thinking for a leveling plan come early release.



It seems like the zones, flying and leve unlocks will be gated behind having a DOW/DOM leveled.


Are you rushing a main DOW/DOM to 60 first and then working on your DOH?


Do you guys think it's worth making a bunch of lv45 hq triple turn ins to get from 50 to whatever?

If they lock stuff behind having DoW/DoM leveled, then they are continuing the trend they established with ARR(and maybe with 1.0 but I was not around for that and do not know).

Personally, I plan on taking my MNK to 60 doing story stuff, then working on DoL/DoH. What order depends upon what is then known about the specialists and what skills are learned, and whatnot.

Imo its better now to go DoW/ DoM to 60 1st then go level crafts/ gatherers.
Cuz u'll have access to all zones ( flying zones etc ) which will most likely allow u to monopolize certain materials till ppl start getting there. Its like when crawler cocoon/ darksteel ore came out.
U wanna sell those iron ores u keep farming or level up and gather those star node stuff asap.

I'm gon' make some swords. Keep that goin' until I'm 60.

i want to take my DoL ahead first then start DoH. i think its safe to say that with bis gear it would take us to lvl53... maybe lvl54. max maybe pushing to lvl55 (without gear investment). (assumptions >< )

then start leveling DoH. priority to LTW, WVR and GSM. and i still want BSM and Carpenter. however, i have decided to specialize in LTW as a start.

for DoW i will take my main bard to 60. then explore machinist (already made 4 sets of gear for lvl30,35,40 and 45).

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

U wanna sell those iron ores u keep farming or level up and gather those star node stuff asap.

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Sure.. if you're a gatherer.
While gathering will be useful for the initial income boost, your time will be best spent leveling crafting and figuring out rotations.. then selling the products (with MB mats) at 500%+ markups

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Originally Posted by GenJoe

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True but also its not like 2.0,
More ppl r at tht 4 star point. So a lot of ppl will be just buying materials for themselves to craft unlike in 2.0 a lot of ppl werebeginning/ leveling crafts unlike some who were 50 by the time ppl started playing. Thus will make ppl undercut more and the only group making a decent profit is the gatherers till fellow gatherers undercut each other. Also a lot of ppl r more familiar with end game crafting so bringing tht knowledge to crafting level 50-58/59 stuff shouldn\\'t be too hard.
Its not like they\\'ll let us craft endgame gear at level 51.
If u get to the level 60 areas 1st and gather-> craft it urself then sell then i can see the 500% markups happening, cuz barely anyone is supplying the demand. Hell u can even do 1000% markups

It's all speculation at best, but what I'm expecting to see is that the gearing process will be a huge pain and extremely costly.
Imagine if you had to gear up yourself without resorting to MB, once you hit lv 50, you can't easily make those lv 50 accessories, let alone the artisan pieces.. You have to upgrade gear about 3-4 tiers to finally reach 4 star and it also requires heavy melding about every step of the way..

So, the first few to reach that state (gearing one self without buying off MB) will have to spend tens of millions of gil, perhaps even more. That's why I'm thinking there will be a lack of master crafters even in 3.0.. basically, other crafters will be your best customers, if there are good gear pieces to sell (SE hinted they will make some useful gear pieces) I'm just thinking of that as a bonus.

Granted it's all speculation, I'm just sticking with a more familiar scenario.

remember that we will get scripts for crafters and gatherers. that we can exchange for gear.

catching up wont be as bad as now. it shouldnt be.

this will go against SE direction to make crafting more accessible. but still have that hardcore/hardest recipe content for master crafters ^^.

being 100% self sufficient is not possible in 3.0 1st month. for sure. it will take time to level/gear up.

I think we're talking about beyond scribs.. as in, bypassing the time limitation altogether and just getting to the most profitable scenario which I believe will require some heavy heavy investment (got a stack of each craft IV materia ready, they're cheap right now too :))

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

being 100% self sufficient is not possible in 3.0 1st month. for sure. it will take time to level/gear up.

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There will be people doing the self sufficiency thing within the first week if not a couple days, those will be the people making most of the money, rest will have to pay through their noses to gear up or wait months using scribs. (Then when you consider that if you reach the top a few weeks quicker, you'll be making money that much sooner.. so most will probably just pay the premium to get geared up)

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

remember that we will get scripts for crafters and gatherers. that we can exchange for gear.

catching up wont be as bad as now. it shouldnt be.

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The last Famistu article http://www.famitsu.com/news/201505/26079368.html

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Most DoL/DoH gear will be crafted. If there is token scrib gear, it'll probably be like our current Artisan Garb token gear: Not very good stats and using scribs to obtains them means not using the scribs for something else that's more essential to crafter progression

It seems most of this thread is working on the assumption that 50 - 60 will continue to build from 4-star gear. This is highly unlikely and stockpiling Craftsmanship IV materia will be as useful as stockpiling ice in Antarctica. It is far more likely that while a bit of a struggle, the 50 - 53 items will be accessible even by people in Patrician's gear. To make HQ you will need all or most HQ materials with that gear, but you'll be able to do so without materia enhancement. Much like hitting your first Class Quest with crafted gear and needing to HQ for the quest.

Stockpiling items for Leve turn ins 45 - 50 at 50 seems silly. Your leves would probably be better spent on level appropriate leves for your chosen class.

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Originally Posted by Morvik358

It seems most of this thread is working on the assumption that 50 - 60 will continue to build from 4-star gear. This is highly unlikely and stockpiling Craftsmanship IV materia will be as useful as stockpiling ice in Antarctica. It is far more likely that while a bit of a struggle, the 50 - 53 items will be accessible even by people in Patrician's gear. To make HQ you will need all or most HQ materials with that gear, but you'll be able to do so without materia enhancement. Much like hitting your first Class Quest with crafted gear and needing to HQ for the quest.

Stockpiling items for Leve turn ins 45 - 50 at 50 seems silly. Your leves would probably be better spent on level appropriate leves for your chosen class.

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No, I'm keeping my materia around to gear up at level 60 for the end-game crafting. You're not seeing the end-game goal here which is why you believe differently..
Hell, I have 30k of each shards and 10k of crystals stocked up, I'm not really worried about gearing up through 50-53, that's not a concern for me, I also have enough mats to make a few hundred 1-2 star items in each class if necessary. I'm sure it won't be needed, but for whatever reason if I run into a barricade, I'll just sit there and churn out my 1600 twinthreads into some low level clothes to get me over the hump.

You're missing the big picture, stop worrying about 50-53 transition, think about what you're going to do at level 60. Which should be.. about 2 days after early access.

I really want to level DoH up as fast as possible, but for the 1st day there will be few mats on the market because Gathering will be gated behind flying mounts which means progressing through the story becomes the only way to do anything for the first half of 19th. But once mats start selling on the MB, I'll just craft.

What do you guys think about GC 40k exp manuals? Do you think they'll be worth it?

We don't even know if the 60 gear will even have materia slots, or it may be so close to max Craftmanship that even a Craftmanship +3 will only get +1. I can't really look at the big picture, because as far as I know, we've barely even have a glimpse at what will even be needed / available at 60.

Y do ppl think gear will continue down the path of 4 star at level 51 lol.
Like can u imagine how absurd the stats/ crafts would be? ( 20 star crafts lol wtf )
Our current artisan stuff etc will just allow us to skip gearing up for a level or two.
Im also positive they will add new materia tiers/ new materia, cuz using the same I , II, III, IV materia evey patch will be wtf lol.
The majority wont hit 60 till maybe near the 1st week due to server maintenance, errors, d/c, play style. You also have to have ppl reach end game gathering for those high end materials for crafters to craft high end gear lol.
Ofc there will be ppl reaching 60 in 2 days, there will be reddit posts explaining the new leveling route etc, what to meld/ craft.

huh. about the shards/crystals.

i honestly believe each crafting mission will reward massive amount of clusters/crystals/shards.

i would assume similar to how we started. where we were handed alot of shards to start crafting.

was it 5k per type? in total? (and that was from 1 to 15).

i feel full artisan/lucis pentamelded gear will be enough for at least the first 3 levels. maybe upt to 4 levels. guessing here lol

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

remember that we will get scripts for crafters and gatherers. that we can exchange for gear.

catching up wont be as bad as now. it shouldnt be.

this will go against SE direction to make crafting more accessible. but still have that hardcore/hardest recipe content for master crafters ^^.

being 100% self sufficient is not possible in 3.0 1st month. for sure. it will take time to level/gear up.

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I wonder how we'll be able to earn those scripts. It doesnt seem that different from the current artisan tokens.


As for being self sufficient, expect some people to be just that, well within the first month.

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

huh. about the shards/crystals.

i honestly believe each crafting mission will reward massive amount of clusters/crystals/shards.

i would assume similar to how we started. where we were handed alot of shards to start crafting.

was it 5k per type? in total? (and that was from 1 to 15).

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Not nearly so many, less then 1k shards per type. Somewhere in the 500-700 range I believe.

Level your desynth on the il115 gear sold in Ishgard. Then use those mats to level your DoH. The gatherers got shafted on this one as the mats they can get first, can be bypassed by desynthers completely. I have stacks of agates, mythrite nuggets, and rainbow threads/cloth from about 1 hour of desynthing. My desynth skills are now weaver 139.14 and gsm 140. This was a huge mistake on SE's part. I thought about keeping it to myself, as I am the only one on my server with these mats on the MB....but it is just so stupidly easy that I didn't want to see people blowing up expensive shit for nothing or paying huge prices on the mats.

Edit: also you make collectible items and turn them in for scrips (essentially tomestones for crafters). Red require level 60 and wont come out until savage alex is released.

The same mats can be gathered???

I didn't see any mention of additional beastman dailies. Has anyone tried the Ixal to see if they got newer quests to help with the DoH grind? I wonder if we will be stuck with the old ones, it would suck if this doesn't help much at lv50+.

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Originally Posted by Drako

I didn't see any mention of additional beastman dailies. Has anyone tried the Ixal to see if they got newer quests to help with the DoH grind? I wonder if we will be stuck with the old ones, it would suck if this doesn't help much at lv50+.

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Exact opposite of helping with the DoH grind. You can do 12 quests each day, and every single quest except Deliverance gives a measly 10k exp.

Also, 3 star recipes give 50% more exp than level 50 recipes.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Imo its better now to go DoW/ DoM to 60 1st then go level crafts/ gatherers.
Cuz u'll have access to all zones ( flying zones etc ) which will most likely allow u to monopolize certain materials till ppl start getting there. Its like when crawler cocoon/ darksteel ore came out.
U wanna sell those iron ores u keep farming or level up and gather those star node stuff asap.

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why do i get disgusted when i read this. i know its "normal" but still...

*need to farm everything so i can bleed out other players yaaaaaaay*