To spend or save poetics

Now with heavensward on the horizon, there is the question in my head wether to save or spend the remaining poetics.

In the past you were usually able to trade your old stones in for the new currency. On the other hand there is also the question on how many weeks we have left to actually cap our stones. It might be possible that the next week is the last one we got, considering the 19th is a friday, which would mean we would only have 3 days max in that week, so unlikely (also servers will be down at least for a day).

Whats your take on it?

I'm just spending all mine on gear right now, not like poetics or i120-i130 gear will matter that much after expansion

New currency, new gears at 60

I'm spending. I've heard that MCH will use the same levelling gear as ARC/BRD (if anyone can confirm, that'd be great), so I'm hoping it'll extend to the sol/poetic gear sets too. If I lose my gamble, atleast my BRD will have a slightly easier time levelling when I get around to it :)

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

I'm just spending all mine on gear right now, not like poetics or i120-i130 gear will matter that much after expansion

New currency, new gears at 60

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Thinking the same way. Picking up a dps weapon this week, and some gear next. The I will have three roles set through to 55 at least.

The way I see it Law tomes are going to be really low rates just like Philo was at the start so if we can trade them I don't expect a very good exchange rate.

However if we can, would be nice to have the option to trade them in for either Law or Scripts or whatever the crafting "tomes" are called as I've forgotten off the top of my head.

But I'm not getting my hopes up seeing how everyone needs to get at least 10 levels to make use of them in the first place, and the capped tomes aren't out for a month? so there needs to be some form of grind to tie people over till then.

Spending them as soon as I earn them here. I've got three or four classes I'll probably take to 60, and the better geared they are at the expansion start, the easier a time I'll have of it.

I'm saving my poetics to buy the DRK blade as soon as possible, so I have something decent to ease my level up process during the first levels...

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

I'm saving my poetics to buy the DRK blade

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is it confirmed that there will be magitek weapons for the new jobs? was going to hold onto poetics just in case, cause it'd be pretty sweet to grab a dyable Tron GS and gun, but I had only heard there'd be primal DRK/MCH/AST weapons for sure(for sure? not actually sure come to think of it...)

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Originally Posted by ParanoidHobo

is it confirmed that there will be magitek weapons for the new jobs? was going to hold onto poetics just in case, cause it'd be pretty sweet to grab a dyable Tron GS and gun, but I had only heard there'd be primal DRK/MCH/AST weapons for sure(for sure? not actually sure come to think of it...)

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There's Ironwork Weapons in the Benchmark video for the new Jobs, and Yoshida did it in the last live letter.

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Originally Posted by ParanoidHobo

is it confirmed that there will be magitek weapons for the new jobs? was going to hold onto poetics just in case, cause it'd be pretty sweet to grab a dyable Tron GS and gun, but I had only heard there'd be primal DRK/MCH/AST weapons for sure(for sure? not actually sure come to think of it...)

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Apparently, there are going to include the remaining ironworks weapons for the new jobs, as they did with the sold weapon when NIN was released. Granted, that happened in a different scenario where that weapon was still useful. But some people saw in the Benchmark video a DRK using an Ironworks Greatsword.

Saving for two reasons. One, as stated above, the Ironworks weapon will be a great help for leveling. Two, it's quite likely that we will be able to convert Poetics to the new seals, just like we could all the previous currencies, and if this is the case, I want my seals, even if it's only a 4:1 ratio like before.

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

Apparently, there are going to include the remaining ironworks weapons for the new jobs, as they did with the sold weapon when NIN was released. Granted, that happened in a different scenario where that weapon was still useful. But some people saw in the Benchmark video a DRK using an Ironworks Greatsword.

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Here.
The IW Globe is shown here, as well as the Greatsword.

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Originally Posted by Allyrion

Here.
The IW Globe is shown here, as well as the Greatsword.

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Thanks! looks like it'll be nice to get a high allagan greatsword. For glamour, of course.

Depends on if you really need gear. I don't need it at all, so I'm pretty much about to cap it this week, might buy a ring or something and cap it off for real next week but just so poetics don't got to waste.

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

Thanks! looks like it'll be nice to get a high allagan greatsword. For glamour, of course.

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i130/135 is usable to lv.55 so... not just glamour?

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Originally Posted by Dhex

i130/135 is usable to lv.55 so... not just glamour?

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HA is ilvl 115 though.

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

I'm saving my poetics to buy the DRK blade as soon as possible, so I have something decent to ease my level up process during the first levels...

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If you were already saving you could buy your 10 tokens for the weapon already and still cap your Poetics in time for Heavensward. There are still two weeks left before early access which gives you a total of 1800 if you were already capped this week and were at a 0 balance.

Wouldn't be a bad idea to cap out Soldiery and Allied Seals as well. Never know what they're going to add. Not to mention, initially they'll make Soldiery the trade-in currency and uncap Poetics if they follow the previous patterns. Soldiery would become Law.

From what I understand both soldiery and poetics will still be in game. Law and Esoterics will not be replacing but be in addition to the existing tomestones.

Do we actually know that tomestones of soldiery and poetics will even be retired at this time? Will people who don't buy Heavensward have access to the new tiers? Maybe what exists for ARR will be left as it is for awhile.
I've been wondering by what means Ironworks gear will be available after the expansion. Maybe it will still be sold for poetics. They could easily offer a token exchange for Heavensward players that still want the old gear.

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Originally Posted by Maiandra

Do we actually know that tomestones of soldiery and poetics will even be retired at this time? Will people who don't buy Heavensward have access to the new tiers? Maybe what exists for ARR will be left as it is for awhile.
I've been wondering by what means Ironworks gear will be available after the expansion. Maybe it will still be sold for poetics. They could easily offer a token exchange for Heavensward players that still want the old gear.

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It hasn't been confirmed yet, which is why I said if they follow the previous patterns. Regardless of if they allow for exchanges or not, you still never know what they're going to add in that uses them. So capping all current seals is never a bad idea given the fact that it can give you a jump on the market if they add something desirable for crafting or what have you.

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Originally Posted by ChaozK

In the past you were usually able to trade your old stones in for the new currency...

Whats your take on it?

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I'm not sure we'll be able to trade in old Tomestones for new ones in the expansion. In all previous cases where we could trade in currency, both currencies were for the same level. In the expansion one currency will be for level 50 gear and the other for level 60 gear, I could see why Square wouldn't have a trade in feature in that case.

Any gear you plan on getting now will have an equivalent dropped in a dungeon for 0 Poetics, so I'd suggest saving them for Poetic weapons on DRK/AST/MCH if you plan to play them. If not, still would likely be better to save them incase they're used to purchase the mats for crafted gear or w/e.

IF you plan on leveling some of the new classes, depending on which one. Buy the gear relevant to the one you're leveling :)

It kind of doesn't matter. Solidarity replaced Mythology, and Mythology was converted 3:1 for Poetics I think. If anything once Law gets released. They'll replace Solidarity with poetics and convert remaining Solidarity into Law. If anything get your books, get your spring water and have Solidarity caped. Then your good for whenever they decide to add the new Tomestones.

Otherwise I'm just demon farming misc parts and Solidarity for other jobs until Poetic farming speeds up.

There's no reason to keep them. Even if Poetics can be converted to Law, the rate would be so low that it's just not worth the trouble to hold out. Even if you had like 2000 Poetics, it will probably be worth at most 2 entry end-game dungeon runs at level 60. If you need something now, get it. If not, you might as well not bother with the effort of earning those Poetics.

Personally I'm just spending everything to have a full set of 130 (well except a ring) for my two main roles (tank & healer), as I plan to level up DRK and AST in 3.0 anyway, and this little boost at 50 would be a good breather for then.

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

It kind of doesn't matter. Solidarity replaced Mythology, and Mythology was converted 3:1 for Poetics I think. If anything once Law gets released. They'll replace Solidarity with poetics and convert remaining Solidarity into Law. If anything get your books, get your spring water and have Solidarity caped. Then your good for whenever they decide to add the new Tomestones.

Otherwise I'm just demon farming misc parts and Solidarity for other jobs until Poetic farming speeds up.

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Myth was converted into Soldiery (just like Philo was converted into Myth). Lowest has always been converted into the next one up. Soldiery may be converted to Poetics around launch, if they are doing away with Soldiery and not keeing it around for ARR players.

If they do not plan on keeping Poetics either, then that will be converted to the lower of the two new currencies. I really can't see them converting it into the highest.

Personally I think Sol will be done away with and Poetics will stay around as an extra way to help gear up players going through the 2.0-2.55 main story quests.

Guess it only matters to save them for people that are leveling new jobs as their first thing when xpac comes out.

I'm just going to level few of my current ones to 60 and mess around in the new end game first. By then I'll probably will have more than enough tomes for whatever new job I would want to level.

As for currency conversion, it is only done when the currency is phased out.
If poetic is phases out you just get a little head start on the new currency (uncapped one) - which probably isn't worth much more than a few dungeon runs at 60 (and you won't be using "poetics" for ironwork weapons but the new currency).

Possibly soldiery will disappear and be converted to poetics, but most likely poetics will remains as they're 10 levels below the new tomes and are a part of ARR content (I'm not sure who would do this, but I'd imagine there might be some people who don't buy the expansion but still play and they'll need something to earn).

Since poetics are likely here to stay (at least for now), spending them now or later makes little difference as long as you don't hit the cap (if you're in danger of that weapon tokens for new or future jobs are a good investment). New crafting items will probably be added to poetics that you might want, so if you more or less have your fill of gear that might be something to save for. It's unlikely that poetics will see any new equipment or conversion into another currency though.

Seeing in the benchmark ironwork weapons for the new jobs and the new tome will most likely give new lv60 weapons and not old lv 50 weapons, I guess the poetics will be still there for people who just finished the 2.0 story and are in the 2.1-2.55 story and for those people who haven't buy the expansion yet.
But Soldiery will be converted into Poetics, that is sure.

I saved up for my 2 chars enough poetics tomen token thingys + items for 4 lv130 weapons for Dark Knight and Astrology jobs o,.o (No mechanic they dont interesst me at all)

Because the new highest(?)-tomes/gears are to get by our regular expert run(why not a different version?-.-).. but those will be lv60 ONLY! Wich is stupid >-> Cant get any new tomes for weeks! I dont want to grind(nor I have that much time) to lv60 just to have the possibility to get newest weekly tomes! o: <