Windows 10

Anyone know if ffxiv will run on windows 10?

It currently runs great on the Windows 10 Preview, so I would imagine it will run great on the actual release.

I imagine you're asking because of that free Windows 10 popup everyone's getting?

Yeah I got it today

Was wondering the same thing, i signed up for the free release thingy-me-bob, but i was unsure if it would run FFXIV well.

I can guarantee with almost 100% certainty that Square Enix is well aware of Windows 10 and are planning to fully support it. Also, nVidia and AMD are definitely working on compatible Windows 10 graphics drivers. So by the time Windows 10 is released on 29th July, everything should be compatible.

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Originally Posted by xxAtticusxx

I can guarantee with almost 100% certainty that Square Enix is well aware of Windows 10 and are planning to fully support it. Also, nVidia and AMD are definitely working on compatible Windows 10 graphics drivers. So by the time Windows 10 is released on 29th July, everything should be compatible.

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excellent, thank you.

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If you are using a notebook, you might want to postpone the Windows 10 upgrade though until the GPU vendors fully caught up: Currently, the Heavensward Benchmark crashes on my machine (NVidia Quadro K3100M) immediately when choosing DirectX 11. DirectX 9 works fine, though. No problems on Windows 8.1.

I am sure the problem will be gone by the time W10 is released, but you really want to make a full backup / hard disk image of your computer before upgrading, so that in case something does get screwed up, you have a way back.

i have a slightly off-topic question...
The heck happened to Windows 9?

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

To those who are considering windows 10, I would suggest caution on such a decision. It is self-proclaimed as a 'freemium operating system', meaning many features will be locked unless you decide to pay extra.

You've heard of pay to win? This is pay to Function.

I for one will wait and see what is and isn't free, before I decide to upgrade.

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Old news and quite wrong. The only costs for Win10 are if you are currently using a bootleg version, or if you have a registered version of Windows from Vista on up to the current 8.1 and wait a year or more to upgrade. The subscription/charge rumors were rumors and nothing more.
After the free year, or if you buy a new version, it will be what they market it as.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

To those who are considering windows 10, I would suggest caution on such a decision. It is self-proclaimed as a 'freemium operating system', meaning many features will be locked unless you decide to pay extra.

You've heard of pay to win? This is pay to Function.

I for one will wait and see what is and isn't free, before I decide to upgrade.

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That's 100% incorrect. For the first year, the upgrade from Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 will be free; similar to how for 6 months after its release, the upgrade for Windows 8 was $40. After that year, users will need to pay to upgrade, but there is no subscription or "IAP" you need to buy for the OS to work.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

i have a slightly off-topic question...
The heck happened to Windows 9?

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The numbers that go with Windows are arbitrary. In fact, what we know as Windows 8,1 is really version 6.3.9600. There have been several reasons given, the first being that "7 8 9", and that 10 is really binary (which is 2 in decimal). In any event, it's just a marketing decision.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

i have a slightly off-topic question...
The heck happened to Windows 9?

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There are lots of Windows applications out there which do a very stupid form of version checking: They ask for the Windows version string and compare the first digit (!) they find. In this (flawed) logic, these applications would interpret "Windows 9" as "Windows 95 or Windows 98".

So, in order to keep these (broken) applications functioning, Microsoft decided to skip Windows 9 and go straight to Windows 10. BTW, there is no risk for applications written for "Windows 1", since these applications are so extremely old that they have stopped working a long time ago. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_1.0)

Oldest version I can remember is Windows 3.1 for Workgroups.

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Originally Posted by xxAtticusxx

I can guarantee with almost 100% certainty that Square Enix is well aware of Windows 10 and are planning to fully support it. Also, nVidia and AMD are definitely working on compatible Windows 10 graphics drivers. So by the time Windows 10 is released on 29th July, everything should be compatible.

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I can't speak for Nvidia, but AMD's drivers are entirely compatible with Windows 10 (running the preview as my daily driver).

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Originally Posted by Cakekizy

Oldest version I can remember is Windows 3.1 for Workgroups.

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Nostalgia comes up, when i think about windows as a side programm to DOS; my first PC even came from Packard Bell, who did a extra software overlay which looked like a living room.

how you felt like a "real hacker" when you edited your autoexec.bat and config.sys to load only necessary drivers to get enough High-Mem free to run your latest game.

heck i even did write a start menu with an entry for every game, with optimal settings, and autostarting the game...

*dreamingofbetterdays*

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Originally Posted by Delily

That's 100% incorrect. For the first year, the upgrade from Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 will be free; similar to how for 6 months after its release, the upgrade for Windows 8 was $40. After that year, users will need to pay to upgrade, but there is no subscription or "IAP" you need to buy for the OS to work.

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What he is saying is that, windows 10 will be Free, but it will be the last windows, after that there will be only upgrades like how google chrome works (there's no Chrome 1,2,3,....)

Then, Microsoft (the new CEO want it that way) may charge you for "upgrade", sure you still have windows 10... but you're gonna pay for "extra" like he said.

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Originally Posted by Nexxus

What he is saying is that, windows 10 will be Free, but it will be the last windows, after that there will be only upgrades like how google chrome works (there's no Chrome 1,2,3,....)

Then, Microsoft (the new CEO want it that way) may charge you for "upgrade", sure you still have windows 10... but you're gonna pay for "extra" like he said.

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Yes, thank you, I am aware of the new strategy for Windows. However, there is a large group of people who believe that after the first year, you will need a subscription to use the OS, which has been clarified.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

I can't speak for Nvidia

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NVidia already released a Windows 10 optimized driver.

It bring some advantages of DX12 to non DX12 software. This shall speedup games up to 20% they claim.

With the Heavensward Benchmark I got around 1% (~100) more points. Compared to Windows 8.1.

What has been clarified:
https://twitter.com/GabeAul/status/558063018677112832

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No. Once upgraded to Windows 10, we will keep it up to date for the supported life of the device, for no additional charge.

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I would ask caution on this, as always, it can lead to an understanding that could be similar but different to their.
They need money, so they're gonna find a way to get some, this is where the "extra" come, or maybe from another source (advertising ?)

I'm wondering about the up to date for the supported life of the device though. So let's say after I upgraded to 10, my pc broke down for some reason, is that mean, no more support for it? Have to get a new 10? or 8?

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Originally Posted by kyuven

i have a slightly off-topic question...
The heck happened to Windows 9?

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Marketing decision to skip it to get as far away from Windows 8 as possible.

I wish I was kidding.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

To those who are considering windows 10, I would suggest caution on such a decision. It is self-proclaimed as a 'freemium operating system', meaning many features will be locked unless you decide to pay extra.

You've heard of pay to win? This is pay to Function.

I for one will wait and see what is and isn't free, before I decide to upgrade.

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Stop spreading bullkupos. There is no such thing as "fremium" OS. I don't know where you get such inaccurate infos. Stop reading tin foil websites and stick to the official Microsoft sources. Windows 10 is a free upgrade for only 1 year from the day it will start to those who own a legal W8/8.1/7 copies. All the rest must pay a full price of the OS as always. MS will treat W10 as a service and this means more frequent security and feature updates for free just like all the previous Windows Updates.

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Originally Posted by Neri

I'm wondering about the up to date for the supported life of the device though. So let's say after I upgraded to 10, my pc broke down for some reason, is that mean, no more support for it? Have to get a new 10? or 8?

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Life of the device is from the manufacturer's perspective, not yours. If your PC broke, and you fixed it, clearly you could use the original license you had. If you had to buy a new PC, you'd probably get Windows 10 preloaded and the license fee would be included in the cost. This is more like iOS and iPhone versions. Since iOS8 only works on the 4S and higher, anything 4 and below is end of life.

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Originally Posted by Nexxus

What has been clarified:
https://twitter.com/GabeAul/status/558063018677112832


I would ask caution on this, as always, it can lead to an understanding that could be similar but different to their.
They need money, so they're gonna find a way to get some, this is where the "extra" come, or maybe from another source (advertising ?)

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Most money from the windows division comes from people buying new PCs (OEMs) and businesses who run the enterprise version which doesn't get the free upgrade. Very little comes from upgrade editions.

So is Windows 10 a PC operating system or is it like 8, a touch screen/tablet OS on the PC?

I'm building a new PC right now and need to decide on 7 or 10.

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Originally Posted by Cirgellon

So is Windows 10 a PC operating system or is it like 8, a touch screen/tablet OS on the PC?

I'm building a new PC right now and need to decide on 7 or 10.

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It's basically a slight upgrade to windows 8.1. It has a windows 7 start menu with a metro UI twist. You can download the preview now. Both versions get the upgrade free anyways.

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Originally Posted by Nexxus

What has been clarified:
https://twitter.com/GabeAul/status/558063018677112832
I would ask caution on this, as always, it can lead to an understanding that could be similar but different to their.
They need money, so they're gonna find a way to get some, this is where the "extra" come, or maybe from another source (advertising ?)

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Windows 10 is not "free". The upgrade is free for 1 year for existing, genuine Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1 customers. After that, the box price is $110 - $150 I believe. Microsoft are banking on gaining more revenue through selling apps on the Windows Store (they're cleaning up the store, implementing new rules for app submissions, and allowing both android and iOS apps to be ported straight into Windows; his means the store will likely grow in quality apps), as well as selling new Windows 10 machines. Microsoft would not be stupid enough to place advertisements within Windows itself, it'd kill the brand even more than Windows 8 did.

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Originally Posted by Cirgellon

So is Windows 10 a PC operating system or is it like 8, a touch screen/tablet OS on the PC?

I'm building a new PC right now and need to decide on 7 or 10.

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I would suggest Windows 10, based on the fact that it will be the final major version of Windows to be released, and therefore should receive updates for life, whereas Windows 7 will eventually become unsupported. Using Windows 10 also ensures that you'll have the most up-to-date security fixes, as well as DirectX 12 support, which is a Windows 10 exclusive and quite the performance upgrade over games using DirectX 11 - this should be a major factor for you if you're building a gaming PC.

If you want to upgrade windows I'd wait a bit after the release to get them to work out the bugs. The game should run on windows regardless. That being said I'm hoping that some other OS competition enters the market because windows is meh. Some of the design concepts are still being reworked from decades ago and are insanely antiquated at this point. Windows is losing market share and I don't see the trend reversing anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

Stop reading tin foil websites and stick to the official Microsoft sources. Windows 10 is a free upgrade for only 1 year from the day it will start to those who own a legal W8/8.1/7 copies. All the rest must pay a full price of the OS as always.

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Well... not exactly.



Even people who pirated Win7 or Win8 can get the free upgrade. They just won't have a "genuine" license.

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We are upgrading all qualified PCs, genuine and non-genuine, to Windows 10...even though pirates will be able to auto-upgrade to Windows 10, the version they get will still be considered unlicensed.

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Anyone with a qualified device can upgrade to Windows 10, including those with pirated copies of Windows.

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So there's that.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

Stop spreading bullkupos. There is no such thing as "fremium" OS. I don't know where you get such inaccurate infos. Stop reading tin foil websites and stick to the official Microsoft sources. Windows 10 is a free upgrade for only 1 year from the day it will start to those who own a legal W8/8.1/7 copies. All the rest must pay a full price of the OS as always. MS will treat W10 as a service and this means more frequent security and feature updates for free just like all the previous Windows Updates.

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Pretty sure they stated that even illegal copies of it will get the upgrade, they'll just keep getting that ungenuine prompt lol

I haven't gotten the prompt to reserve my windows 10 yet I'm running windows 7 with SP1 and my windows updates are on, I wonder if the European countries get it later (Finland here)

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Originally Posted by xxAtticusxx

it'd kill the brand even more than Windows 8 did.

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But, to be fair, neither Windows 8 nor Windows 8.1 came with FFXIV 1.0 preinstalled.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

The heck happened to Windows 9?

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Bizarre marketing decisions.


I'll be sticking away form 10 for about a year just in case something terrible happens with it.
I simply don't trust Microsoft enough right now.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

Pretty sure they stated that even illegal copies of it will get the upgrade, they'll just keep getting that ungenuine prompt lol

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Will it eventually make you register? I installed on new machine when old one died. After using for a month or two I had to call MS and verify it since I used same license as old comp.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Well... not exactly.



Even people who pirated Win7 or Win8 can get the free upgrade. They just won't have a "genuine" license.

Source


So there's that.

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Actually, this information is outdated and Microsoft have since clarified that non-genuine Windows users will not be entitled to the free upgrade, but instead can opt to pay for the update to Windows 10, retaining all of their information and files from their non-genuine version of Windows.

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Originally Posted by Lokisama

I haven't gotten the prompt to reserve my windows 10 yet I'm running windows 7 with SP1 and my windows updates are on, I wonder if the European countries get it later (Finland here)

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Worked on my PC a few hours ago in UK. Funny, thing. I read about it before I noticed it!

Have you installed ALL updates as there's an update that included the notification.

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Originally Posted by Lokisama

I haven't gotten the prompt to reserve my windows 10 yet I'm running windows 7 with SP1 and my windows updates are on, I wonder if the European countries get it later (Finland here)

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Is your computer up-to-date? (As in everything from Windows Update is installed?)

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Bizarre marketing decisions.


I'll be sticking away form 10 for about a year just in case something terrible happens with it.
I simply don't trust Microsoft enough right now.

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No point in holding off, it works great, been running it for nearly a nine months. Every little update has added something new and it's shaping up to be great.
when it's releases it will be ready for prime time. I can't wait for it to roll out so I can start deploying it at work to shut up the win 8 complaints.