Cannot find available housing at all.

This is ridiculous. I made a forum account just to voice my concerns over this. Was there no foresight from SE? How did they let this trainwreck happen?

I'm on Balmung, with some friends of mine since ARR came out. At first, it was very expensive to obtain a house, but over time it became better. Unfortunately due to IRL circumstances, most of the group of us left for a while. We've resubbed to get up on the main storyline before Heavensward, but now find ourselves completely stuck on an overpopulated server without a single housing spot available. These are my concerns.

... I just noticed that SE has a 1000 character limit on posts. How absurd. More to follow.

Here are my issues:

1) SE has no safe and secure way to even sell houses between players. This makes me assume they did not want this to be an option, else they'd have given a way to securely do it without being griefed/scammed or someone being faster on the draw than you for the plots.

2) SE forces players to chose low populated servers to find housing for their FC or even personal houses. The problem with this? The absolute TEDIUM of creating characters on each server just to find if there IS houses available! You have to create the char, go through unskippable cutscenes and a tutorial, run out to the only zone that char has available, then either do the storyline up until you're able to get to either zones, or make another char to do the unskippable cutscenes again! IT'S ABSURD. I've spent hours going through servers looking for open house slots.

3) To move off Balmung, we have to GIVE UP 90% OF OUR GIL, meaning we'd need to make it all back once on this new server, at which point they may have already taken the damned spot we wanted. LET ALONE the fact that DURING TRANSFER someone may buy it up!

This is a complete wreck of a system. I'm left with a sour taste in my mouth and much less desire at buying Heavensward if we cannot have an FC house. Any other option, such as joining existing FC's for their house and buying rooms (which if kicked do they even refund? what happens if the FC leader is a douche?) is out of the question, as we're a tight knit group of friends who've stuck through plenty of MMOs together. We're not going to end up the lackeys of some other FC just because SE has zero foresight. All sorts of negativity in this entire system and zero posts since SEPTEMBER 2014 before patch 2.4 even came out on the matter.

This game is thriving despite this, and obviously SE cares not, or they'd have fixed this long ago, but I'm leery on giving my money to this company if they can't find a way to resolve this, or at least keep their customers in the loop at what they're GOING to be doing.

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Originally Posted by Jachim

You have to create the char, go through unskippable cutscenes and a tutorial, run out to the only zone that char has available, then either do the storyline up until you're able to get to either zones, or make another char to do the unskippable cutscenes again!

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lol as somebody with 7 characters, I feel the pain.. I cringe every time I hear Ahhhh Hydaelyn..

As far as the housing availability goes, Jenova has a few mediums left on Goblet and Zalera and Zodiark has plenty of housing from what I hear.

Houses get sold out on Mist first, then Lavender Beds, and Goblet last.. So checking out the situation with an Ul'dahn character would probably give you the best insight..

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Originally Posted by GenJoe

lol as somebody with 7 characters, I feel the pain.. I cringe every time I hear Ahhhh Hydaelyn..

As far as the housing availability goes, Jenova has a few mediums left on Goblet and Zalera and Zodiark has plenty of housing from what I hear.

Houses get sold out on Mist first, then Lavender Beds, and Goblet last.. So checking out the situation with an Ul'dahn character would probably give you the best insight..

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No. We'd rather unsub than get a house in Brownsville. Regardless, thank you for the insight on locations. Too bad they don't give this information out readily to newly subbed chars. I wonder how all the new subs they're getting think about the dire situation on housing without knowing they're unwittingly on a server that's jammed to the gills?

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Originally Posted by Jachim

I wonder how all the new subs they're getting think about the dire situation on housing without knowing they're unwittingly on a server that's jammed to the gills?

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Really, I wouldn't even see that as much of an issue if SE allowed a way out for people who feel stuck.. Let people move more than 1 million gil, what is SE's obsession with 1 million? can't trade more than 1 million at once, can't mail more than 1m at once.. can't move servers with more than 1m at once, for crying out loud, 1m isn't some huge magic number like a bajillion and it's not like new server's economies need to be "protected" from legacy money, hell new servers have more money than the old ones most of the time :D

Btw, if you're willing to scrap together some extra gil, I hear 30-40mil buys you a small house in Balmung..

If not, your only hope would be to get a house when someone moves servers, but somebody who already has a house on Balmung probably won't move servers without a very good reason

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Originally Posted by Jachim

No. We'd rather unsub than get a house in Brownsville.

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I assume you mean the Goblet? Love it, sitting here crying about housing but if there is a plot available in the Goblet you would rather unsub? Ever hear the term "beggers can't be choosers?"

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

I assume you mean the Goblet? Love it, sitting here crying about housing but if there is a plot available in the Goblet you would rather unsub? Ever hear the term "beggers can't be choosers?"

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Beg? BEG? What inflammatory commentary from the peanut gallery.

SE has a lot to explain for itself for this train wreck they call housing. I'm not looking for the perfect spot in Mists overlooking the ocean, I'm looking for choice that doesn't involve losing 90% of my FC's isk, a harrowing journey to a new server for the POTENTIAL for a house in a third rate district we don't even want and you're here DEFENDING this godawful attitude as if it's *MEANT* to be so absurd.

Of course, I could just be feeding a troll, in which case your peanut gallery friends are calling you.

Edit: let's not forget the fact we must pay SE for this ridiculously convoluted "opportunity" as well.

I just find it odd that you are here complaining about housing but if there was available housing in the Goblet you would rather un-sub. You are coming off as a self entitled brat. You can't always get what you want. While I do agree the housing situation is pretty bad for many, and hopefully it is remedied in the future.

I think he meant new servers like Jenova, Zodiark, and Zalera when he said Brownsville..

Just because everybody knows everybody on Jenova, that don't mean we's in Brownsville :(

But yeah, I wouldn't move an entire FC at $18 a pop per person just for the housing feature.. if SE offered free server changes from high pop to low pop, so many problems could be alleviated..

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Originally Posted by Jachim

POTENTIAL for a house in a third rate district we don't even want

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If you really did mean Goblet by Brownsville, then yeah.. you're a little late to the party, gotta take what you can get at this point :)
Goblet is actually my favorite housing district, it has its charms

Uldah blows anyway, nobody should live here.

And hey OP! I did the exact same thing like... 3 months ago! It's a fun time.

I'll definitely say that the unskippable cutscenes are a total pain and should be skippable for everyone who already has a character on any server.

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Originally Posted by GenJoe

Goblet is actually my favorite housing district, it has its charms

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The Sultana's Breath always takes my breath away for sure

They need to do something about the housing issue.

Or give us planters in the private chambers of the FC house.

Or something.

Or instanced apartments with a balcony for plants.

First person that says "when everyone has housing, no one cares about housing" needs to go visit EQ2's housing community. EVERYONE has the option to get houses there, and there are ambitious people that level guilds just to get guild halls for personal decoration. The marketplace has houses available on it for crying out loud, and there are people that do nothing in that game outside decorating folks' houses and using things like bookshelves and flooring tiles to outright build entire structures outside the bounds of the house itself(breakouts).

Letting everyone get access to housing with all the amenities in some form or another isn't going to kill people.

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Originally Posted by GenJoe

If you really did mean Goblet by Brownsville, then yeah.. you're a little late to the party, gotta take what you can get at this point :)
Goblet is actually my favorite housing district, it has its charms

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The three different zones are for taste. I understand not wanting to have 100 zones with the one perfect house with a view on the waters edge in Mist, but having zero openings on any three, let alone being forced into undesirable spots in the Goblet (aka Brownsville, because it's very... very brown. Ugly as piss.) on ANOTHER SERVER we have to pay money to get is NOT entitlement like some people are claiming on this forum. (Not accusing you of at all.)

I wouldn't be posting here if there were spots open in Goblet on Balmung. Whatever. I'd deal with it until something better comes along and suck it up. The only ones available are on another server AND THEN Goblet. Sorry, but that's a deal breaker.

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Originally Posted by Jachim

The three different zones are for taste. I understand not wanting to have 100 zones with the one perfect house with a view on the waters edge in Mist, but having zero openings on any three, let alone being forced into undesirable spots in the Goblet (aka Brownsville, because it's very... very brown. Ugly as piss.) on ANOTHER SERVER we have to pay money to get is NOT entitlement like some people are claiming on this forum. (Not accusing you of at all.)

I wouldn't be posting here if there were spots open in Goblet on Balmung. Whatever. I'd deal with it until something better comes along and suck it up. The only ones available are on another server AND THEN Goblet. Sorry, but that's a deal breaker.

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Nah, Zalera and Zodiark should still have housing and not just in Goblet..
Although, to move an entire FC at cost, that's a whole different issue.

The cool thing about smaller servers is that there are people moving off of the servers constantly and you'll see open houses pop up periodically. (What that actually says about being on the server.. is open to interpretation)

As long as you're not on a Legacy server, you'll likely be able to find a housing in better city open up as long as you keep your eyes open, in fact, that's exactly what I'm doing right now.. After I gave my personal house away I'm just looking for any small plot to open up (after 2 months of decorating our FC mansion, I really don't want to decorate anything bigger than a small) and I've so far seen 5-6 open houses in the past 2 weeks that I've actively been looking.

Housing is an absolute disaster and now that they've decided to add all this feature-locking behind owning one I can only assume their heads are so far up their ass they can't see how stupid they're being.

My FC was on Ragnarok and instead of trying to save up with a tiny place, we server jumped and got a Large house for the same price on a smaller server. Not to mention the fact that it's very easy to liquidate your money into objects that will sell for MORE on the new server you chose.

It also depends on how much you actually want that house as balmung has been overcrowded for a long time and won't soon stop being so. You could also stay on balmung and see if they eventually come up with plans to have houses in the 3.0 areas...

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Originally Posted by Riepah

I'll definitely say that the unskippable cutscenes are a total pain and should be skippable for everyone who already has a character on any server.

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So gil spammers can make even more characters, even faster? No thanks. What they really need is simply a webpage that displays the housing availability for each server.
...oh and to add more servers to handle more land lol