It may sounds like a lore thread put in the wrong subforum, but it's not. Sure, we will most likely join forces with the dragons eventually and most of the seven are likely dead at this point, but it is inevitable to fight at least some of them.
Question is: How? They are way too big. And neither Bahamut nor Midgardsormr was fought directly.
Assuming that each Wyrmking we confront will have a different mechanic to give us a fighting chance, how do you think it will happen? I personally wouldn't mind piloting flying magitek armors to zap a few oversized lizards.
Confronting the Wyrmkings
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05-24-2015, 08:23 PMBalipuConfronting the Wyrmkings
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05-24-2015, 08:33 PMCanadane
We need to take a tip from Greg and embiggen our spirits.
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05-24-2015, 09:29 PMSamcaesar
We might not actually end up fighting any of them, except for maybe one or two of them! ... At least I hope. Alternatively, I wouldn't be surprised if Ishgard had some last resort super weapon to kill them that they've been developing in down time. The fight would involve surviving and slowly whittling down the Wyrmking in question or killing his forces til we can activate the super weapon switch and blame! Wyrmking dust for everyone!
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05-24-2015, 09:54 PMGilraen
Well, clearly we're going to beat the tar out of Nidhogg with a party of AF2 and Mythic equipped adventurers of interminable names.
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05-24-2015, 10:02 PMDragonSlayer45
My thoughts: Don't think on it too hard.
This is a Final Fantasy game. A series where characters have taken out (demi)gods, devils, airships, beasts the size of cities, weapons of mass destruction and other kinds of creatures with just swords and magic. You can pretty much beat anything that moves. -
05-24-2015, 11:46 PMBalipuA fair point. We managed to beat CoD with conventional weapons. Then again, we didn't fight Bahamut or Midi directly, so it could go either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45
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05-24-2015, 11:56 PMAlberel
Beyond Nidhogg I'm not sure that we're going to be fighting the rest at all to be honest. The evidence is mounting that we're actually going to be joining Ysayle/Iceheart in speaking to the dragons and attempting to find some way to end the war without genocide on either side.
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05-25-2015, 01:24 AMKikoten
I have a feeling Omega Weapon is going to make an appearance at some point.
I ask myself what's scarier: Dragons? Or Omega Weapon?
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05-25-2015, 01:28 AMWarlyx
simple , AIRSHIPS
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05-25-2015, 09:36 AMDarkStarI can see it now. The Party Finder full of groups looking exclusively for Bards and Machinists in the DPS slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlyx
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05-25-2015, 09:38 AMAlberelThis probably is how we'll fight Bismark actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlyx
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05-25-2015, 10:03 AMDualblade
So...mayhaps custom airships for the fight, while those without get a generic one?
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05-25-2015, 06:42 PMBalipuYeah I was thinking the same thing. It really looks like an aerial battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberel
Yes, kinda like in praetorium. But now we will get to keep it for the boss fight. Imagine all the mechanics. AoE won't be marked on the floor but as glowing columns and globes midair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dualblade
Oh, sweet jesus, it would be so epic. -
05-25-2015, 07:41 PMzandervontJust hope it doenst end up like Deathwing fight in WoW... ie. ADDS ADDS ADDS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberel
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05-25-2015, 08:51 PMWarlyxyeah lol or fighting nailsQuote:
Originally Posted by zandervont
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05-26-2015, 01:07 AMBalipu
As long as no dragon turns into a mass of tentacles and Alphinaud won't get the killing strike for all important bosses FFXIV will always be ahead of wow
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05-26-2015, 02:00 AMRiceisNiceThe Omega Weapon one shotted Bahamut. Just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikoten
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05-26-2015, 06:13 PMBalipuYou say that like it's a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiceisNice
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06-08-2015, 01:51 AMBalipu
Okay resurrecting the old discussion as the official site confirmed that the blaíck dragon we fight normally at the end of the benchmark is in fact Nidhogg. Apparently we will just go and stab them.
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06-08-2015, 03:01 AMMoonlegWhat if in this game ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikoten
We fight a dragon WIELDING the Omega Weapon? -
06-08-2015, 04:38 AMVelox
It's unrealistic to assume the other sons of Midgarsormr are as strong as Bahamut, at least not the Bahamut that we know. His power was easily enhanced by the aether-infused prayers of his followers, so primal strength will vary from summoning to summoning. Louisoix had to become a god himself JUST to halt the destruction, but even then he couldn't completely destroy him. We don't know how strong Bahamut was in life though.
Middy is also leagues beyond our level. Even though his body is obliterated, his spirit alone could have killed us if Hydaelyn didn't intervene. Yes we fought him, but that was more for his own enjoyment. He is still very much alive of course :P -
06-08-2015, 05:44 AMBalipuPilot you mean. You can't wield a robot. Well, you can but it would look silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonleg
True, but it is not unreasonable to assume that dragons that probably predate all humanoid civilizations would be massive both in power and size. We of course know that Nidhogg and Hraesvelgr are regular size.Quote:
Originally Posted by Velox
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06-08-2015, 07:18 AMUltimatecaliburIt has been explained that each individual dragon grows differently as it ages in reaction to various events. Vishap's size is likely an anomaly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Balipu
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06-08-2015, 07:49 AMTalia_HailwindQuote:
Originally Posted by Balipu
If Final Fantasy has taught me anything, its that attacks big enough that can turn solar systems to dust can still be survived on a few HP.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/InNHB9J0eqs/hqdefault.jpg
I stopped questioning Final Fantasy logic when it comes to size years ago :D -
06-08-2015, 06:29 PMNeriI guessed that it would be Nidhogg, after seeing the benchmark. Well, he missing one eye after all..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Balipu
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06-08-2015, 06:58 PMIllyaI think after FFVII they started making super attack animations shorter because it had gotten so ridiculous in that game. Knights of the Round takes a million years to finish too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talia_Hailwind
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06-08-2015, 07:04 PMKuwagamiConsidering benchmark, I wouldn't be surprised if we fight Bismark's belly instead, as we seem to be eaten wholeQuote:
Originally Posted by Alberel
on topic, I don't think we are much of a threat for the wyrmkings right now. We can't even defeat Vishap without super heavy anti-wyrm artillery support, so a Wyrmking all by ourselves ? Not a chance.
My guess is that we'll go and try to negotiate with them, sometimes with a little "survive me now" fight to judge if we are worthy of their attention or not. But to kill them ? Maybe Nidhogg at the very end, or he'll end up being killed by Omega Weapon and we'll destroy Omega Weapon with the help of Ishgardians and the other Wyrmkings, ancient enemies uniting against a bigger threat and thus ending a millennium long war by realizing the true enemies all that time were the ascians. End -
06-27-2015, 08:29 PMBalipu
Well, we have our answers. Now the question is
what will we do without the eye?