Demon Book boss "Ylk'eorz" and the text on his page.

So I like running around Eorzea and reading all the little bits and pieces of writing I can find. You can find some interesting or even misspelled things.

Some examples:
- The signs for the Bronze Lake hot springs say a different name than what the NPCs call it. The signs call it the Sanatorium whereas the NPCs call it the Sanitorium. The definition is the same but the change is still something interesting.

- Did you know the posters on the Market boards are backwards?

Anyhow, in todays live letter they showed the new dungeons and bosses in them. One of which is a giant demon book. The letters on its page will be clearly visible when you are in the dungeon. So I thought it would be great to take a screenshot and translate them. Of course since Heavensward hasn't come out yet I only had the trailer to work with.

Well turns out what I could translate came out as complete gibberish to me. I was shocked that they may have put in such a huge page of actual text and yet it mean absolutely nothing. After digging a little deeper though it might still be something.

Turns out some of the words I managed to convert actually are words just in different languages rather then English like everything I've found before in the game. I've come across some German, Welsh, and Indian words so far.

Sadly though there is a problem. I can't get a clear enough and large enough picture to finish converting the text on the page to make any coherent sentences. The letters are also too small to make out the intricate markings of them. Is that an S or an A, I or a L, V or Y, B or G, etc.

The words in the book may still be complete gibberish but there is a chance they could also be one heck of a cool discovery.

If it is complete gibberish though I will feel incredibly let down by the person who wrote it. Specially after the Zodiac quest items having the tale of the zodiacs embossed on the paper, which was an amazing touch.

If this thread is still here when Heavensward comes out and I get to that dungeon myself I will still translate it of course. I just thought people might want to know about this and may find it interesting or maybe have better luck with this then myself.

As part of a time-honored tradition going all the way back to when we tried to translate Dalamud (it said ABCDEFGHIABCDEGFGHI), transcribing the text on the demon book was pretty much the first thing I did with that dungeon preview trailer (after geeking out with Rocl and Fusion; feathered ixal!). I won't say that what I got was gibberish, but I've sure yet to make sense of any of it, either.

I swear I can make out several Dravanian words (mor, afah, morn), but the biggest words seem much longer and more complicated than a dragon would use (as far as we've been led to believe), even though the book itself is arguably dragon-sized. I also specifically see "gwyr" and "aen," as in the two parts of the landmark Gwyr-Aen in Coerthas.

The title looks to me: Pentetolothys Athealogicad Ylk'eorz, which I assume to be some pretty warped Greek.

I'll try my best to do a quick pass to give you an idea; but I can't make any promises on accuracy until I really sit down and try to put some polish on the smudgy / blurry bits. It should be enough to give you an idea what it looks like and/or help you get started on your own transcription, though. First impressions, again, I'm thinking Greek + Dravanian might be a good place to start.

Pentetolothys
Athealogicad
Ylk'eorz

Tetheth Cthulaniacl
(probably mistakes here; fades into the brown ink)

Mesca molle nith kol atha
afah on man tha kul ta oka
millh azan thal azan ul
gelli deuz tortil am alli
veuol (cthal?) nk'denil ma
thaeothelphae guil ac'til
paeth byl xun tao (zin djai?)
akh mael (th_the qarnic?)
Mor ann mor silv -------
Morn ynn morn sil ----------
[too much smudging]
ghollill demen ------------
ill fhwil a thac feryne

Cillix yn zolol nedz? sef
tolnysor devid. Molh
holnix xannla tildylt
usen yn vholl thaela
Li Noctologolae netheg
hy?? diem alul morn
unna morn tulwal
mesca molla atymos kol
mor unna mor gwyr
cthol aen dag ? on al
feryne akyn.

Taehlo G?omytoric

[smudged]
[smudged]
[smudged]

Be-e---uin jao azathi ch-------
atymos'ol fhil ambyri -------
Gothin dalam cyllo ud te----

Well you got a lot further then I did as my eyes aren't the strongest. The use of Dravian words would definitely explain why I could have thought it was gibberish as my knowledge on that is non-existent.

ATYMOS?

COULD IT BE?

Well Greek and Dravian are out of my field lol. Most I would be able to have given is what you just did except a month later. It's pretty interesting if this is true though makes the game feel more in-depth and mysterious.

If my guess was correct it would have seemed to be possibly a rant against god worship or about people being anti-god. My range of language is horrible limited to only English though. Using Google translate which I know is not the best. Also the dravian words cause it to be broken up and fractured.

Ylk'eorz second portion referring to Eorzea possibly? So the book has something to do with the Ylk (yolk?) of Eorzea? Or maybe I'm throwing everything off.

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maybe I'm throwing everything off.

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Not at all. My first though was that "Ylk'eorz" might mean "Ilk of Eorzea" or "Eorzeans."

I just haven't figured out enough of it to be like, "Look how well that fits in context!" lol

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Not at all. My first though was that "Ylk'eorz" might mean "Ilk of Eorzea" or "Eorzeans."

I just haven't figured out enough of it to be like, "Look how well that fits in context!" lol

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Koji did tell me at London FanFest last year that we'd be getting some clues as to where the name 'Eorzea' came from. This might be it.

It'd be especially cool if you can actually go about reading books in the library... such a shame to just go there and fight... ;-;

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It'd be especially cool if you can actually go about reading books in the library... such a shame to just go there and fight... ;-;

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Koji has oft referred to a 'lore library' in Sharlayan that would serve as a repository for lore and history not otherwise covered by quests or dialogue. I don't think we've had it explicitly confirmed but Koji has dropped enough hints about it that it's fairly likely to be coming in Heavensward. If it's not connected to the Great Library dungeon itself I imagine there'll be another location within the Sharlayan settlement that offers what you're hoping for.

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...57bd6f86bb.jpg

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...57bd6f86bb.jpg

I'm wrong or this text on the "face-book" boss isn't eorzean?

Something something Children of the Light.

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I'm wrong or this text on the "face-book" boss isn't eorzean?

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TREUTHE (truth)

You can see the same inscription on the goatskin grimoires, and I think on the Doctor's and GC Soldier's Picatrix as well.

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Pentetolothys

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Pente is the number 5 in Greek and toloth is the number 8 in Tolkien's Sindarin.
So, Pentetolothys can mean 58th or 40th (five octets).

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Athealogicad

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Quite a number of suffixes here that make it a bit confusing.

The suffix -ad denotes that it is something "related to" or roughly "On the topic of".

-logy denotes that it is a study of "atheism" or more liberally "un-godlyness" or "unholiness".

The suffix -ic makes the above an adjective instead of a noun, so I would translate the whole word as "About the study of the unholy [things/spells/magic]"

So "Pentetolothys Athealogicad" could mean the "58th [tome] on the study of the unholy [things/spells/magic]"

EDIT: I forgot about the "Ylk'eorz" thing which as others have already said could mean the "Ilk of Eorzia", which would make the full title "58th [tome] on the study of the unholy eorzian beings" so, basically a Monsters Compendium or a summoning book.

The rest of the script looks similar to H. P. Lovecraft's R'lyehian (Cthulhu language) or WoW's Old Gods language which is based on the former.

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Pente is the number 5 in Greek and toloth is the number 8 in Tolkien's Sindarin.
So, Pentetolothys can mean 58th or 40th (five octets).

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It's interresting because in the ancient Library in FFV all the page monsters are based on binaries numbers ( they are all powers of 2 ), Page 32, Page 64, Page 128, Page 256. I wonder if they will use some kind of pattern for the book monsters here again.

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-logy denotes that it is a study of "atheism" or more liberally "un-godlyness" or "unholiness".

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There is nothing divine about Logy. It just means reason, study, logic.

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which would make the full title "58th [tome] on the study of the unholy eorzian beings" so, basically a Monsters Compendium or a summoning book.

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So to these creatures, we as "Eorzeans" are the bad guys?

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Pente is the number 5 in Greek and toloth is the number 8 in Tolkien's Sindarin.
So, Pentetolothys can mean 58th or 40th (five octets).



Quite a number of suffixes here that make it a bit confusing.

The suffix -ad denotes that it is something "related to" or roughly "On the topic of".

-logy denotes that it is a study of "atheism" or more liberally "un-godlyness" or "unholiness".

The suffix -ic makes the above an adjective instead of a noun, so I would translate the whole word as "About the study of the unholy [things/spells/magic]"

So "Pentetolothys Athealogicad" could mean the "58th [tome] on the study of the unholy [things/spells/magic]"

EDIT: I forgot about the "Ylk'eorz" thing which as others have already said could mean the "Ilk of Eorzia", which would make the full title "58th [tome] on the study of the unholy eorzian beings" so, basically a Monsters Compendium or a summoning book.

The rest of the script looks similar to H. P. Lovecraft's R'lyehian (Cthulhu language) or WoW's Old Gods language which is based on the former.

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So wait, this could mean that it's a living version of that demonomicon thing that we pick up in level quests. If it is "The 58th book of Unholy Beings in Eorzea" then it could be a book of voidsent/demons/monsters that were written down and then the book enchanted (Ala Demon Wall) to keep people from summoning those beings (Cough Cough, Diablos, Cough.)

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There is nothing divine about Logy. It just means reason, study, logic.

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Athealogicad actually has the word Thealogic in it. So since thealogic means inline with theology then adding A (The Greek prefix for Anti) then it's "That which is against Theology" which can also be read as unholy.

• Another possibility is that the prefix "Athea-" is intended to imply Aether.
• Confirming "Treuthe" to be a ME spelling of "truth"
• "Tetheth Cthulaniacl" - I'm guessing a connection with chthonic
• Let's note some other long words more likely to be "Sharlayan" than "Dragonspeak": Thaeothelphae, Noctologolae.
• We've got some Dragonspeak from here
  
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  The next part is sung in dragonspeak:
  
  Dys an sohm in
  Rhos an kyn
  Sah djahs afah an
  Mah morn narr
  
  Which translates into:
  
  our slumber disturbed
  my brothers wake
  vengence will be ours
  the saviors must perish

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• We also have this, wherein we get a few words translated from Dragonspeak.
• "Atymos" I'm going to presume is our good friend Atomos.
• "Li" appears to be an article of some sort.
• " 'ol " looks like a pluralizing mark, a la "ot/oth" or "im" in Hebrew.

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EDIT: I forgot about the "Ylk'eorz" thing which as others have already said could mean the "Ilk of Eorzia", which would make the full title "58th [tome] on the study of the unholy eorzian beings" so, basically a Monsters Compendium or a summoning book.

The rest of the script looks similar to H. P. Lovecraft's R'lyehian (Cthulhu language) or WoW's Old Gods language which is based on the former.

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I was starting to assume something similar by reading lines of that title. I was coming to something along the lines of Anthological Studies of Erozias Ilk. Given some line about Atomos and other locations references. I was leaning to it being a compendium related to the more demonic/otherworldly entities that either roam about or have been known to be manifested/called into Erozia.

Oddly enough I had already made an assumption that the Localization team might try to reference it to the Necronomicon in some manner, or at lease the Sam Rami version of it. Being that it may contain otherworldly Lore, Rituals, and things that should not be read, spoken, etc... Maybe even some unknown history or facts about Summoning rituals and whatever seal is supposed to be around Silvertear.

Awesome. Just began reading call of c'thulu recently. Question is: who are these unholy beings of eorzea?
Extraterrestrial beings with tentacles and eyeballs in wrong places? (*cough* Jenova *cough*)
The Dragons?
The Primals?
Or maybe is it us?

Or just demons.

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Or just demons.

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Or just demons. But that is too simple for my taste.

The Necrologos.....? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????

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The Necrologos.....? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????

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That's the book I was trying to think of earlier.

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That's the book I was trying to think of earlier.

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Great minds think alike. It was what I immediately thought of when I saw the trailer.

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Extraterrestrial beings with tentacles and eyeballs in wrong places? (*cough* Jenova *cough*)

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Well, when you think about it. Mind flayers in general were based on a book rooted in the Chtulhu mythos and are currently the almost universal link across many RPG's that connects back to H.P. Lovecraft

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The Necrologos.....? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????

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We will finally read the actual book

ROUND TWO, BOOKFACE. OR... DEMON FACE... IN A BOOK... DEM- WHATEVER, IT'S ON.

Much better attempt this time (thanks to Magis mulling it over with me); here's draft two.

Pentetolothys
Athealogicad

Ylk'eorz

Tetheth Ctulaniacl

Mesca molla nith kol atha
afah on mantha qulta oka
millh azan thal azan ul.
Gelli deuz tort'il am all'i
veuol gthal nk'denil ma
thaeothelphae guil ac'til.
Nevth'ent noctemas tel
paeth byl xun tao zin djai
akh mael thisthe qarnic.
Mor ann mor silvae mor.
Morn ynn morn silvae morn.
Tu'l qui jae tzun tao
ghollill demen atymos al
ill fhwil athac feryne.

[1872]

Cillix yn zolol nedzj seF
Tolnysor bevid. MolH
Holnix xanla tildylT
Usen yn vholl thaelA
Li Noctologolae netheG
Hyss diem alul morN
Unna morn tulwal.
Mesca molla atymos kol
mor unna mor gwyr
cthol aen dag il on al
feryne akyn.

Taehlo geomyntoric

M'Lin L'th Qitha
Bellenoctol
Sempyr

Beneth quin jao azathi chail
Atymos'il fhil ambyri ox
Gothin dalam gyllo ud tempa

[1871]

And here's the same thing but organized by sentence.

Mesca molla nith kol atha afah on mantha qulta oka millh azan thal azan ul.

Gelli deuz tort'il am all'i veuol gthal nk'denil ma thaeothelphae guil ac'til.

Nevth'ent noctemas tel paeth byl xun tao zin djai akh mael thisthe qarnic.

Mor ann mor silvae mor.

Morn ynn morn silvae morn.

Tu'l qui jae tzun tao ghollill demen atymos al ill fhwil athac feryne.

[1872]


Cillix yn zolol nedzj seF tolnysor bevid.

MolH holnix xanla tildylT Usen yn vholl thaelA Li Noctologolae netheG hyss diem alul morN unna morn tulwal.

Mesca molla atymos kol mor unna mor gwyr cthol aen dag il on al feryne akyn.

Taehlo geomyntoric

M'Lin L'th Qitha
Bellenoctol
Sempyr

Beneth quin jao azathi chail Atymos'il fhil ambyri ox Gothin dalam gyllo ud tempa

[1871]

I need to take a break before I really dig into this, but two things you should notice right away. First, the book seems to be read right to left (as this is a Japanese game, after all) and Cid does read it in this manner. Second, you should notice that the first and last letter of the lines on the right-hand page are capitalized. That's weird, maybe if you read top to bottom on both sides...

CTHULHU... FHTAGN...

GODS DAMNIT, KOJI.

The Passage seems to make more than one reference to Atomose so I'm wondering if it's invoking Atomos' wormhole power to call void sent into the world.

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And here's the same thing but organized by sentence.

Mesca molla nith kol atha afah on mantha qulta oka millh azan thal azan ul.

Gelli deuz tort'il am all'i veuol gthal nk'denil ma thaeothelphae guil ac'til.

Nevth'ent noctemas tel paeth byl xun tao zin djai akh mael thisthe qarnic.

Mor ann mor silvae mor.

Morn ynn morn silvae morn.

Tu'l qui jae tzun tao ghollill demen atymos al ill fhwil athac feryne.

[1872]


Cillix yn zolol nedzj seF tolnysor bevid.

MolH holnix xanla tildylT Usen yn vholl thaelA Li Noctologolae netheG hyss diem alul morN unna morn tulwal.

Mesca molla atymos kol mor unna mor gwyr cthol aen dag il on al feryne akyn.

Taehlo geomyntoric

M'Lin L'th Qitha
Bellenoctol
Sempyr

Beneth quin jao azathi chail Atymos'il fhil ambyri ox Gothin dalam gyllo ud tempa

[1871]

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Let me expand upon that for you.

M e s c a m o l l a n i t h k o l a t h a a f a h o n m a n t h a....

Gehe....