A demand, not a suggestion, not a petition. Inventory trilogy!

Hello this is going to be one of those posts that gets alot of bad attention and possibly even a removal from Mods. The title alone will make a few mad but its entirely accurate. First off, ok we get it, Square Enix isnt giving us a mail box system b/c supposely they think it'll hinder RMT's ability to exist. This "Fallacy" or incoherent presumption that Mail system will help RMTs is pretty lame and old fashioned. Besides the obvious point i just stated, I have a "demand" of an immediate alternative.

First off:
Increase the trade window amount, 4 is simply not enough if almost an insult to the crafting community. EVEN 8 trade slots per side would make a significant difference. my "demand"? Make it 10. Take it from someone who has multiple characters on multiple accounts that myself and my girlfriend own. Why is besides the point. We like variety.

Secondly:
Make retainers more accessible. Allow us to make shortcuts of retainers on our bar, our macros, our menu, whatever the case may be. However keep the same requirements for summoning them. If "Summon Retainer" box works, all the above should work. Here's my reasoning, trading between 2 retainers or multiple characters is already a pain in the arse, why be limited by how we pull the retainer up. Make a 1 click exit button on the exchange window and instead of going back to menu, allow it to go back to retainer selection. Lil stuff like this is all i ask to make trading between characters / accounts not seem like a chore. :mad:

In closing, if SE refuses to add simple stuff like extra trade slots or a shortcut to retainers then i suppose me paying for 2 accounts with 4 characters each is a big hell no. Not to mention, the current linkshell bank account that i started from a buddy pass key. The 3rd account would only be used if i deemed absolute need for it, however 8 character banks on a 3rd account and a pain in arse trading / non mailbox system is an absolute cancel when game goes pay to play without hesitation. So my question to SE is..

How much do you like me paying for 16 characters on 3 accounts? :confused:

Discuss, comment, sign the "Demand" form!

so you are angry bcus you spent a bunch of money and time making something you knew (assuming you've played the game before making all these accounts) would be a hindrance to you and are now blaming them?

the points are valid. but the frustration is all your own doing.

Good points, but honestly we don't care how many accounts/characters you are paying for. Square does need to change the way inventory, and retainers work. It's a most definite, we should be seeing improvements over the next few months so sit tight.

We'll look into it.

I guess it should be ok to return to your Retainers Selection, but more when you call them from a bell. In a ward it's not that useful if the sole reason to do it is to transfer things from one retainer to another; you can do it pretty easily to a bell.

I'm fine with the trading, it's not a bother to transfer 8 things.
If you want to transfer 30 things (hell... you must be moving or something...) then yes, that might be a problem. Let's see what they want to do with this.

Also... really, why not having only one account? Less money to spend and one character has like 330 places to storage. You can't bad-manage 330 slots!

My only thing i say to that, in Eve, in UO, in god forbid even guild wars, i dont bitch about invo management. Eve has the best economy and inventory system of all MMOs, just has the worse arseholes u could ever expect to be playing with. I am a linkshell leader and the idea of a linkshell account for mass hoarding is reasoning behind the 3rd account. I wont be payin for it myself entirely. and oh like i stated, the 2nd account is my girlfriends....

Ah! I see, so the second one is for your girlfriend.
Still though, what's with this third account, you do a lot of characters and get them in a linkshell so they can keep your goodies?

its just a hoarder account yes... 600 nether newts and 300 crimson crayfish just sitting there, probably more. thats just 1 example. some of the chars on 3rd account are full in at least 1 retainer. 1.19 will help with that tremendously. but dropping all junk items on 3rd account is a god send. 1 char for each DoH as well. just convience, but the trade window and 30seconds it takes to get to exchange window is the issue. i will try 1 alternative to retainer trading... i'm going to summon all my retainers in limsa grocers ward.. that'll help big time lol. limsa aetheryte, leve npcs and market ward are so close.

funny post... He demands stuff.. We all have a demand..
You give me the "i farm gil so i need a lot of accounts to make money illegaly.." no offense..
But your post could have been more polite.
SE is working hard to get the game sorted give them time.
I don't see you making games fast and perfect either..
I don't support your post.

8 Slots in trade would be nice but it's not really needed that hard.

Hmm... I see.
Well, if there's something you don't need you can try with these things:

• Sell it
• NPC it
• Synthesize it
• Trash it

I don't think you'll ever need 300 Crimson Crayfishes anyway, unless you want to cook them 'til death do you and the game apart =D

Or is there a reason on keeping those items forever?

Mail boxes are the devils work. If we get an in game mail system the terrorists win! Plus adding a mail system is to hard for SE to do.

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

Mail boxes are the devils work. If we get an in game mail system the terrorists win! Plus adding a mail system is to hard for SE to do.

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We need a slave moogle to do our bidding!

German community rep has confirmed that the mailbox system is happening, just not in the next few patches.

So keep your hair on, buddy. People who rage are not very well received.

Not to sound picky or anything but surely you saw these limitations before making half a bajillion alts and bank characters?

1 character with two retainers = 300 inventory slots. That's a whole lot of crafting material right there. If it's still not enough space, try condensing those materials into their next stage of materials (e.g/ all those dark bass, sea cucumbers and distilled water could be turned into fish glue, condensing from 3 slots to 1, and so on and so forth)

I'm not picking faults at you or anything, but to have that many characters to hold items and things with just seems a bit.... excessive :3

il buy your crimson crayfish! :D

most of it is just stuff i cant use atm like the crimson crayfish... alchemist on gf's main is only 34. so theres the concern on why so much crap. plus ores and metals have their own 300 spots, leathers same, etc. its convience however with a shitty way of getting from bank alt to crafter

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Originally Posted by Yowyow

most of it is just stuff i cant use atm like the crimson crayfish... alchemist on gf's main is only 34. so theres the concern on why so much crap. plus ores and metals have their own 300 spots, leathers same, etc. its convience however with a shitty way of getting from bank alt to crafter

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Sounds like someone needs to learn some basic inventory management skills. Much like in real life, if you keep everything, you are going to run out of space. So you either have to sell it, toss it or put it in storage, the latter of which costs money and is inconvenient to access compared to it being in your personal possesion.

Don't grow too attached to your useless junk.

i beleive mailboxes werent included because SE was planning to be charging from the getgo and ppl would have been paying extra for more retainers. but since they arent charging we cant get more retainers unless we make more alts.
and trading is a hassle when moving many items and i believe this is also related to the above issue. whenever i trade items to someone else, my 4 trading slots work fine. when moving items to alts, its not enough.

TL;DR i seriously believe alot of the trading/muling issues have to deal with SE currently not charging, because as soon as they do we can purchase more retainers allowing us to hold more items and mule alot less OR remove the necessity for muling altogether.

The forum devs have stated on multiple occasions that the mail box feature is something that is coming but not in the present/near future because it's not a priority compared to fixing the core gameplay. SE's logic is that mailboxes are necessary but not crucial because their function is simply a long distance trade. The other part of it is the standard "need to fix the server engine first" crap we normally get as an answer for 50% of our questions.

I don't agree with their logic, but that's their answer. Same as the linkshell stuff that has been asked countless times.

yawn......................

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Originally Posted by Fated

The forum devs have stated on multiple occasions that the mail box feature is something that is coming but not in the present/near future because it's not a priority compared to fixing the core gameplay. SE's logic is that mailboxes are necessary but not crucial because their function is simply a long distance trade. The other part of it is the standard "need to fix the server engine first" crap we normally get as an answer for 50% of our questions.

I don't agree with their logic, but that's their answer. Same as the linkshell stuff that has been asked countless times.

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Logic:

Make game work first

Add new stuff later

No point add new stuff if game no workie and people leavez

Wow I wish I could demand things and have them happen. Oh wait, I'm a mother fking princess! BRING MY TEA SERVANTS.

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Originally Posted by Yowyow

Hello this is going to be one of those posts that gets alot of bad attention and possibly even a removal from Mods. The title alone will make a few mad but its entirely accurate. First off, ok we get it, Square Enix isnt giving us a mail box system b/c supposely they think it'll hinder RMT's ability to exist. This "Fallacy" or incoherent presumption that Mail system will help RMTs is pretty lame and old fashioned. Besides the obvious point i just stated, I have a "demand" of an immediate alternative.

First off:
Increase the trade window amount, 4 is simply not enough if almost an insult to the crafting community. EVEN 8 trade slots per side would make a significant difference. my "demand"? Make it 10. Take it from someone who has multiple characters on multiple accounts that myself and my girlfriend own. Why is besides the point. We like variety.

Secondly:
Make retainers more accessible. Allow us to make shortcuts of retainers on our bar, our macros, our menu, whatever the case may be. However keep the same requirements for summoning them. If "Summon Retainer" box works, all the above should work. Here's my reasoning, trading between 2 retainers or multiple characters is already a pain in the arse, why be limited by how we pull the retainer up. Make a 1 click exit button on the exchange window and instead of going back to menu, allow it to go back to retainer selection. Lil stuff like this is all i ask to make trading between characters / accounts not seem like a chore. :mad:

In closing, if SE refuses to add simple stuff like extra trade slots or a shortcut to retainers then i suppose me paying for 2 accounts with 4 characters each is a big hell no. Not to mention, the current linkshell bank account that i started from a buddy pass key. The 3rd account would only be used if i deemed absolute need for it, however 8 character banks on a 3rd account and a pain in arse trading / non mailbox system is an absolute cancel when game goes pay to play without hesitation. So my question to SE is..

How much do you like me paying for 16 characters on 3 accounts? :confused:

Discuss, comment, sign the "Demand" form!

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WTF you got 2 accounts with 4 char each? Do you even work or go to school or something?

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Logic:

Make game work first

Add new stuff later

No point add new stuff if game no workie and people leavez

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Yet they've added content to the game when they haven't even figured out the battle system. They've added new equipment despite the fact that the current stat system is completely broken and renders most of that equipment as unnecessary.

"No point add new stuff" though, right?

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Originally Posted by Fated

Yet they've added content to the game when they haven't even figured out the battle system. They've added new equipment despite the fact that the current stat system is completely broken and renders most of that equipment as unnecessary.

"No point add new stuff" though, right?

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Well they've got to add little bits here and there whilst they're fixing the game to keep stuff flowing, otherwise we'd all be sitting with literally nothing to do when we got to the end.

Probably should have worded it better:

Make game work first

Add large content updates later

a simple thing like 10 trade slots instead of 4 isnt breaking the servers or asking for too much... personally. 4 trade slots is downright an insult to ppl who plan on keeping their extra chars. and i dont really care for ppl who say "why have extra chars dude? put all the jobs on 1!" my reasoning is simple, i like variety and looking at a hyurs ass everytime i get on 14 is just bleh... and no i dont have a Elezen with the Star Spangled Subligar. I'm not a homophobe but queers in 14 are rampant!