When/Why were you vote kicked?

So after 4 months, I was on the receiving end of my first votekick. It is a strange feeling the first time around. But it was odd, it didn't come from the mega wipe-fest I thought may happen some day, but it was a good run.

Was running Haukke Manor NM (Tank), had cleared everything up until the last boss, nil wipes, party seemed fine. The party was myself and 3 JP players. I ran up the stairs to clear the barrier for the final boss, the was a little bit of JP chatter in the dialogue box and BOOM! Goneski.

I had a heap of dungeons selected in DF, so I just resubmitted, and was placed back in the same dungeon, same party.

Me: <I'm sorry> <How come?>
Followed by a JP response.
Me: <I'm sorry> <I don't speak Japanese>.

There was about 5 minutes of dialogue in JP that went on then, the party just standing at the bottom of the stairs.

Then one of the other players left, was replaced and we knocked over the boss first go.

Was quite strange. I tried to copy the text to add to autotranslate in Google, but the game crashed when I tabbed out, so an eternal mystery.

But there must be some interesting stories out there I imagine.

The one and only time I was kicked was after my friend was kicked in Syrcus Tower.

A guy from my server had queued with some other people from our server and started complaining about my friend's tanking for no reason as far as I could tell, getting very abusive about it. They tried to boot him before the second boss, I hit no. The second attempt before Amon was successful. Another tank came in almost immediately. I told them to kick me too, because I was really frustrated with the way they treated my friend. They complied.

I'm not even sure if that counts as a real kick or not because I basically asked for it. Over the two years and many many dungeons and CT raid runs I have done, nothing else has happened to me since. I don't know if I am exceptionally lucky or if I am just playing in a way that most people like.

Only been kicked from one dungeon. I was tanking Dzamael Darkhold and got kicked cause I rolled need on a piece of loot cause I wanted it for glamour. I was already level 50. I was asked why I rolled need and I responded with, "For glamour." BOOM......kicked. I just lol'd

Only time I've ever been kicked is when I was called away for IRL things and the AFK timer beat me. And a couple of DCs that lasted like twenty minutes so ofc I was kicked.

First and only time was a few weeks ago. Qued for high lvl roulette and got Brayflox HM. It was your basic speed run pull. Suddenly the tank died and I kept kiting the mobs while healer ressed. Tank grabbed the mobs and soon he was dead again. He left, without saying a word. We wiped. I waited a few minutes to see if we'd get a tank, but no luck. Said I'd go make some tea explainig that my kitchen is only a few steps away and I can see my screen from there. The others said nothing, they just stood there.

I put some water in the electric kettle. No tank in sight, others still not moving. I finished making my tea and got back to my seat. The dps and healer had started killing mobs. I was about to type "I'm back", but at that very moment I got kicked. No chat, no new tank, nothing. I had been afk for less than 2 minutes - in a group that was missing a tank O.o

No idea what their actual problem was, they had killed 2 mobs while I was away.

The only time I've been votekicked was when my internet went out for about 20 minutes, so I can't blame them one bit for that.

I had the leader of a farm party kick me once because their DRG friend wanted to come in-- I would have been more annoyed if one of the tanks hadn't died twice in the previous run and made for a close shave. As it was, I felt like I dodged a bullet of sorts.

Got my first vote kick yesterday. Garuda story mode with a DF party, my first time for this fight. Frankly, I mostly deserved it; I was having trouble getting properly positioned on the pillars and kept dying.

Friend got kicked for the first time just for using a mage LB on a large group of mobs while speed running. Yes, because apparently that LB YOU WILL NOT USE DURING THE 2ND BOSS OF SNOWCLOAK is apparently needing to be saved.

The one and only time when I was vote kicked was during a WOD. The healers were absolutely horrible, standing around doing nothing while people were dying. So, I made a comment along the lines of, "it would be really nice if the healers would actually heal." Got vote kicked for asking someone to do their job. It was grand.

I only got kicked once and that was from me running off the game to attend to a RL emergency. I told the party what happened before I left and I didn't care that I was booted.

Jewelry... Always
Sometimes it's just one piece that people find fault with.
Not changing how I play, so kick away

I haven't been kicked from a Duty, I have left a lot of unpleasant Duties however.

Got kicked once when I went AFK for two minutes from WoD right before Cloud, even said I would be. That said I'm not sure if I actually got into the final area or if I stopped right before it would tele me so I'm not sure if it might just be because I didn't make it in on top of being AFK at that moment.

I got kicked for using LB3 as a DRG on cloud of darkness in WoD.

The healers and tank had taken issue with me because I kept pulling threat off him (I WAS giving him time to build threat, and I WAS using elusive jump to dump aggro) but people just love to rag on the DRG.

During cloud people kept failing to get on the final wave of meteors. After the wipe one of the healer's loudly declared "I could've rezzed you all if the stupid DRG hadn't wasted the limit break".

And before I knew it I was out the dungeon...

I did a High Level Roulette and ended up in Haukke Hard.
The Paladin was a first timer, and came in with a Bard (unbeknownst to me). After the first two trios of key-holding mobs, the Paladin has to go for a minute. I shrug it off, easy enough dungeon at i120, me and the other DPS (a Monk) power through the next few doors and the Manor Ogre just in front of that little trio of imps... and after refreshing Stoneskin / Protect on everyone, I'm kicked.
The Monk, who happened to be on Sargatanas as well, defended me and was kicked promptly after. We had a chuckle over it.

Date: 5/9/15
Time: 10:30PM RT
Server: Siren
Dungeon: Keeper of the Lake
Party Make Up: Warrior, Scholar, and 2x Black Mages.
My Class: Black Mage
Reason for kick: Needing on Black Mage Gear.

Apparently the other Black Mage doesn't realize that it's perfectly okay for another person using the same class to need on gear for GC Seals, Glamours, or whatever. I would assume that the 3 Lalafells I was paired up with were friends from the same server or they felt the same way about me being a ''gear ninja''... Either way I shouldn't have been kicked and the developers need to look at this issue... We all put a ton of time into this game grinding for our relics, levels, gear, whatever it may be.... and to be kicked from a dungeon for needing on gear is not right. If I gotta go through the same dungeon 100 times to get 1 piece of gear so should everyone else!

I'm not changing how I play so kick all you want... :p

Last week, someone said something very sarcastic to the new person in CT. So I responded with some sarcasm about expecting people to know things without letting me explain. Was called dome rude words and was vote kicked. I find it funny now, but still reported it.

I find the vote kicks for limit breaks pretty crazy. Nothing worse than for me as a tank to use stun to interrupt attacks and increase the LB quickly, so it is full by first boss, only to have it sit there for the rest of the instance untouched until the final boss. A good party can fill that sucker 2 or 3 times! I have blasted the tank LB on final bosses before when they were down to .0001% just because I didn't want to waste that sweet yellow nectar.

And in PUG groups, surely gear is free for all. Though I must admit, I have started greeding everything now.

Well some of my kicks i did deserve for mouthing off i have a short temper sometimes and start getting in arguments so get kicked which is probably better for all involved. Other times it's not justified like using the Healer as a scapegoat and kicking me. Had a couple of runs where people are running in circles screaming getting hit by stuff and somehow I'm expected to keep everyone alive or I'm bad and should be kicked. Amusingly a lot of the best WHM heals are group ones where people are good if they stand close together and stop spreading out all over the place.

Not had too many ridiculous kicks the one i always recall was leveling BLM i got AV on low level roulette and this one WHM was a self important twit from the start he just stood there doing nothing saying "full run" i'm just like "protect would be nice" he does it mid first pull. He's not even a decent Healer at all but when we get to the room with the eggs i blast a few forgetting about the XP from letting them hatch and God Healer decides he doesn't like that and he's all "Do that again and i leave" i just said "Fine you can leave and i'll ask a proper Healer from my FC to come finish" and then i found myself kicked. Considering his attitude i was kind of surprised the other two took his side but whatever.

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Originally Posted by jpwhirley

Date: 5/9/15
Time: 10:30PM RT
Server: Siren
Dungeon: Keeper of the Lake
Party Make Up: Warrior, Scholar, and 2x Black Mages.
My Class: Black Mage
Reason for kick: Needing on Black Mage Gear.

Apparently the other Black Mage doesn't realize that it's perfectly okay for another person using the same class to need on gear for GC Seals, Glamours, or whatever. I would assume that the 3 Lalafells I was paired up with were friends from the same server or they felt the same way about me being a ''gear ninja''... Either way I shouldn't have been kicked and the developers need to look at this issue... We all put a ton of time into this game grinding for our relics, levels, gear, whatever it may be.... and to be kicked from a dungeon for needing on gear is not right. If I gotta go through the same dungeon 100 times to get 1 piece of gear so should everyone else!

I'm not changing how I play so kick all you want... :p

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If the piece of gear is not an upgrade for you but is an upgrade for the other blm you are a dick and in the wrong and deserve the vote kick. If it's not an upgrade for either then I have no issue with people needing things for seals or glamour.

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Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio

If the piece of gear is not an upgrade for you but is an upgrade for the other blm you are a dick and in the wrong and deserve the vote kick. If it's not an upgrade for either then I have no issue with people needing things for seals or glamour.

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What if the other BLM downgrades their gear so that it looks like anything special that drops is an upgrade? If I trade out my i130 shoes for i110 ones and then run WoD and i120 ones drop... someone else running with that class might have i120/130 Poetic tome shoes, and I could say 'Look it's an upgrade for me mine are only i110!' and if that player passes then they fall into my armory chest right next to my i130 shoes they don't know I have. But if we both want them for our retainer then we each have as valid of a claim on them as the other.

That's why I personally pass things I don't have use for, like all that i100 gear that drops from dungeons. There's a few notable items like the i100 Dex/Det/Crit ring that are an upgrade from a PVP perspective that I've rolled Need on (since Frontlines is lvl synced to i80) but I also told the party I grabbed it for my PVP loadout and I've passed the subsequent ones that dropped. I've seen a few i100 Mind/Crit/Det items there O would have loved to have had, and they weren't an upgrade for the healer unless they wanted them for PVP and odds are they didn't... they rolled Need, I accepted it and moved on... if a Healer or Tank Needs everything for desynth/seals then the other players see their odds of getting my commendation go up drastically, but I don't kick people who aren't breaking the rules.

Speaking of getting kicked, how's this story.... throughout an ST run a Dragoon in our party was griefing and annoying people in the party and alliance, constantly marking/remarking party and alliance members, etc. Someone in the party tried to vote dismiss them after a boss, it failed, I'm like WTF. Final boss they're still doing it, finally they mark me as Target to Attack 1 and I lose it on them. I'm like this is why you should vote Yes on vote dismiss.

Obviously I wasn't thinking at all, the reason the vote kick failed was because 4 of the party members were from the same FC and I think a 5th might have been with them since they all came from Excalibur. The tank had aggro on the boss and must have done something intentional to lose it because they did and the raid wiped. So I try to use my vote kick on the dragoon but I can't because it says a vote dismiss vote was already in progress. And the I got kicked.

Yep that's right, people who joined ST together were able to insulate one of their members from a vote kick and let them harass people as much as they wanted... and then those of us who didn't like that were the ones who got kicked at the last boss, perversely enough. I reported all of them, though I doubt SE did anything about it. IMO though vote kick shouldn't be usable as a harassment tool by people who preform part of the party that will always outweigh the rest.

Well I said they were an 'FC' I should have said they were a lolFC since I looked them up on lodestone and they only had like 8 members and not even a house. And since I own my own house (with a very profitable garden, and a couple of beautiful cherry trees blooming in the yard, my own material suppliers and mender, multi-use food placed as furnishing, etc) I just wanted to mention that here in case they ever read this.

I got kicked from WoD where 6 from 8 of my party alliance which was made out of 6 F clients suddenly stood still and got locked out in front of first triple Garms fight.. Only me (BLM) and a healer went into battle.. A player from another alliance went raging on how could 6 players getting locked out, then i just said "They are French, they cant understand you" in alliance chat.. Then i got kicked...

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Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio

If the piece of gear is not an upgrade for you but is an upgrade for the other blm you are a dick and in the wrong and deserve the vote kick. If it's not an upgrade for either then I have no issue with people needing things for seals or glamour.

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I really hate this kind of culture..
For me, i wouldn't examine people's gear.. Be it excellent, good, or bad, i'll treat em all the same and wont judge anything. I'll need/greed whichever gear i want, will consider if someone ask me to pass, but the reality is that people with lower tier gear wants to be entitled of them self when they don't even say a single word up until i loot the items and they go raging over it or sulking or questioning my behavior..
If they ask me where is my manner in helping new player, i can ask back "Where is thy manner in hoping to get something without saying a single word?"

It's getting pretty annoying in the big raids now where people form groups simply for the idea of trolling making up the majority or all of one party in the alliance so nobody can kick them. I can't understand why people pay a sub just to troll in game. Had runs where one group is doing everything they can to cause a wipe usually in LoA because it's the easiest to purposely wipe the party in then they pretend it's not them and that they will watch for the trolls when all they are doing is causing the wipes.

Also hate getting kicked for getting annoyed at the one causing wipes. Like some Summoner who keeps sending their pet in to aggro the boss before everyone is insane like "I do it because it's funny" and I'm like "No you do it to be a prick" then get kicked.

The GM's themselves i think their hands are tied because trolling on it's own isn't exactly it seems against any rules it's only when people make racist comments and stuff that they get any action taken against them and it's usually just put them in the GM jail for 10 minutes and have a GM give them a talking to. Which they find funny and something to brag about. Some people purposely abuse others fun to get in the GM jail and video it for youtube with commentary. It's no punishment.

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Originally Posted by lvlagmarink

I really hate this kind of culture..
For me, i wouldn't examine people's gear.. Be it excellent, good, or bad, i'll treat em all the same and wont judge anything. I'll need/greed whichever gear i want, will consider if someone ask me to pass, but the reality is that people with lower tier gear wants to be entitled of them self when they don't even say a single word up until i loot the items and they go raging over it or sulking or questioning my behavior..
If they ask me where is my manner in helping new player, i can ask back "Where is thy manner in hoping to get something without saying a single word?"

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Very true. Unless somebody specifically asks me if they can have something because it's a big upgrade for them then I'm going to roll on it. I don't get why some don't understand that needing it for seals or glamour is a need. If i can use it for something be it those things or my retainer then i will roll on it. You can ask me nicely if you are a new level 50 and need the gear as an upgrade to progress and I'll probably let you have what you need but no time for people who say nothing then start screaming at me because i needed on a chest for my retainer.

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Originally Posted by lvlagmarink

I really hate this kind of culture..
For me, i wouldn't examine people's gear.. Be it excellent, good, or bad, i'll treat em all the same and wont judge anything. I'll need/greed whichever gear i want, will consider if someone ask me to pass, but the reality is that people with lower tier gear wants to be entitled of them self when they don't even say a single word up until i loot the items and they go raging over it or sulking or questioning my behavior..
If they ask me where is my manner in helping new player, i can ask back "Where is thy manner in hoping to get something without saying a single word?"

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So it's worse to examine people than to need something you DON'T ACTUALLY NEED? If you want the piece of gear for anything other than using it, there is no need there, you want it, but you don't need it why is it so hard for some people to wrap their heads around this.

Might as well say everyone in the group should be able to need anything because they need it for their off classes with this kind of stupid mentality.

Well, I might need it for my retainers :-) Lets be honest, running a dungeon a couple of times for gear is part of the game. If you miss out one run, that is unfortunate, but you can do the run again. People are investing time, I think they also deserve the rewards they are due, whether it be seals/glam whatever. The longer you play the game, the more you will have to run content for equipment. How many WOD runs do you need to max out your gear? I don't even know about coil. I think its fair game IMO.

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Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio

If the piece of gear is not an upgrade for you but is an upgrade for the other blm you are a dick and in the wrong and deserve the vote kick. If it's not an upgrade for either then I have no issue with people needing things for seals or glamour.

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You just sound like an entitled prick. Cry more. The loot system dictates that no one is more deserving of a piece of gear just because of their current ilevel. A player is not in the wrong for needing on gear that they have the ability to need on. If I'm not notified of a player seeking upgrades, I need on everything I can for seals. That does not make me selfish.

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Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio

If the piece of gear is not an upgrade for you but is an upgrade for the other blm you are a dick and in the wrong and deserve the vote kick. If it's not an upgrade for either then I have no issue with people needing things for seals or glamour.

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Everyone participating in an instance has equal entitlement to loot, regardless of what they need it for. It doesn't deserve a kick. If you are lower geared you can ask the group if they could pass on gear for you, but it shouldn't be expected that anything is automatically yours.

It's not the last time I was kicked, but the story was my first time. In sastasha NM. I was running the dungeon for the first time ever, as a healer. And FFXIV was my very first MMORPG. I had no clue as to what any of the terms enmity/tank/dps and such referred to. I had also absolutely no clue about what should be my job as a WhM in a dungeon. So far, I had only played solo, and couldn't know that not all players could cure themselves. By default, I thought we all could.And as soon as I entered, I switched to "Cleric Stance" and I remember something like "Nice, we're gonna have a dps'ing whm". ---> "No clue what you're talking about but suuure !"

We reach first pack of trash. I DPS like my life is at stake, and think "whoah, they have a lot of hp compared to the ones on the map". After a minute or so, the tank obviously dies, followed closely by everyone else and I think " They also hit harder"...

And here we go again, the tank asks then why I wouldn't heal. The only answer was obviously "Do I have to ?". And then the 3 other players explain me the roles for each. Tank/DPS/Healer. I say "Okaaay" and we start running, the tank gets to the mob and then I start spamming cures on what I thought was the tank, but was actually a dps.
Another wipe, and then I get to understand the tank was that guy with the blue icon. There we go again, third time.... Spamming cures on the actual tank this time, I ran OoM in no time. Wipe again.

At that point, I was kicked (very politely though) after a short discussion, and after they gave me some links about "roles" to look into.

Unforgettable run, really.

I've never been kicked personally but I have a great 1 for my friend. When we all started playing, we were on ps3 (before the ps4 version even launched). This was also before auto skip cutscenes. He was kicked from Praetorium on 3 separate occasions because the loading time on ps3 was too slow for their little speed run. It's not like he was watching the scenes either. He was skipping them as fast as the load time would allow. He would get locked out of boss fights and subsequently kicked. Smh

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Originally Posted by Able

You just sound like an entitled prick. Cry more. The loot system dictates that no one is more deserving of a piece of gear just because of their current ilevel. A player is not in the wrong for needing on gear that they have the ability to need on. If I'm not notified of a player seeking upgrades, I need on everything I can for seals. That does not make me selfish.

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Aw, did someone point out it was a dick move and it hurt your wee feelings? Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's right or justified to do it. It not only makes you selfish, but it means you need to look up the definition of selfish.

Last few times have been in LoA/ST/WoD due to trying to initiate a votekick on trolls, turns out most of them only do troll runs now with partial premades. His buddies vote no, then I get kicked.

As someone said before, I don't really understand mentality of trolling. Purposely making game frustrating for others doesn't seem in any way fun. I get a lot more fun out of those runs, when alliances are so coordinated, that every mechanic is handled flawlessly, and we're able to push/skip phases.

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Originally Posted by Garotte14

Only been kicked from one dungeon. I was tanking Dzamael Darkhold and got kicked cause I rolled need on a piece of loot cause I wanted it for glamour. I was already level 50. I was asked why I rolled need and I responded with, "For glamour." BOOM......kicked. I just lol'd

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New players might not know what that means lol. Say it to yourself as though you do not know what your referencing. You just sound like a douche lol.

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Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio

If the piece of gear is not an upgrade for you but is an upgrade for the other blm you are a dick and in the wrong and deserve the vote kick. If it's not an upgrade for either then I have no issue with people needing things for seals or glamour.

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Wrong. If someone puts in their time, effort and proceeds through the dungeon with a bunch of strangers and does their job effectively, and a piece of gear they want drops, they have every right to need on it. You vote kicking for that is a violation of the vote kick feature, and you deserve to be reported.

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Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio

So it's worse to examine people than to need something you DON'T ACTUALLY NEED? If you want the piece of gear for anything other than using it, there is no need there, you want it, but you don't need it why is it so hard for some people to wrap their heads around this.

Might as well say everyone in the group should be able to need anything because they need it for their off classes with this kind of stupid mentality.

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Dude, the reason behind needing gears would be up to the individual, where's the right when a bunch of strangers comes up and say that there are stuffs you cant loot.. That is to say that they even ask for the gears which doesnt happen most of the time, since they whined after it's been looted.. The system sets people equally on looting.. Other players get loots that i want, i'll move on and try again to get that loot..

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Originally Posted by Bfmusashi

Aw, did someone point out it was a dick move and it hurt your wee feelings? Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's right or justified to do it. It not only makes you selfish, but it means you need to look up the definition of selfish.

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Needing for seals over someone else needing for a gear upgrade is not a dick move.

It is selfish.
Also, needing for a gear upgrade over someone else needing for seals is selfish too.

Being selfish in a game like this is okay.

Getting upset because you didn't get your loot-roll and making up reasons like "gear is more important than seals!!! (to me, anyway... 'cause I want the gear and you want the seals...)" is immature and wrong.

Your reason for rolling can simply be "because I like to see if I can win the RNG roll!" and it's just as valid as anyone rolling for a gear upgrade.
Personal reasons differ. As long as it's for your personal progress (as defined by the individual) there's nothing wrong with it.

The only time it's wrong is if the person's reason for rolling is "to get something so that other's can't."
That's wrong, and a dick move. Don't purposefully try to be a negative influence on other player's gaming.

Simply being selfish, however, is not wrong in this game. The entire point of this game is to be selfish and progress in a way you personally find entertaining. You can't fault people for doing that.

Well, you can, it's just silly and immature :p

While it is certainly within your rights to roll on a piece of gear as glamour or for an upgrade to your retainer, it is much nicer to allow a person to get an upgrade if it truly is. Sure it is partially on them to ask, but if I were to ever roll on something purely for glamour I would ask either before the dungeon or when the rolls open. If someone else has already needed I just shrug it off. It's not a big deal to me, but it is nicer to ask. It shows concern for your fellow human being who is simply trying to progress. When I can clearly tell that a whole group has amazing gear, I'll just roll on what I want. Anyway, seems like we're veering off topic here. I haven't been vote kicked in this game yet, and only once on any other game. I hope I wont be, but who knows!