Lore info within patch 2.5 files

Found here: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthr...6257#pid176257

• Each previous Astral Era has ended with a Calamity corresponding toone of the six elements─fire, ice, earth, lightning, water, and wind.
• In Eorzea, length and distance are measured in ilms, fulms, yalms, and malms. There are 12 ilms in a fulm, 3 fulms in a yalm, and 1760 yalms in a malm.
• It is believed the Miqo'te first came to Eorzea during the Fifth Umbral Era, fleeing their ravaged homeland on the southern continent of Meracydia.
• The shortest Lalafells are roughly two feet ten inches (34 ilms) tall. By contrast, Roegadyn can grow to almost three times that height (90 ilms).
• In Eorzea, weight is measured in onzes, ponzes, and tonzes.There are 16 onzes in a ponze and 2000 ponzes in a tonze.
• Coerthas, once a verdant highland region, is now pounded byrelentless snowstorms─an unforeseen side-effect of the Calamity.
• Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn came to power after emerging victorious in the Trident─a multi-pronged race used to determine Limsa Lominsa's Admiral.
• Eorzea is located on Aldenard, one of the Three Great Continents. The other two─Ilsabard and Othard─lie to the north and northeast, respectively.
• Plainsfolk males─notable Syndicate member Teledji Adeledji included─usually go by their entire full name, rather than first or last name alone.
• Throughout history, the Lalafell passed their histories down through song,which is why even now many use heavy alliteration in their speech.
• Peistes, gigantoads, antlings, and vultures are known to lunch on Lalafells,but any rumors involving ravenous Roegadyn are dubious at best.
• In addition to weather such as rain, snow, and sandstorms, certain areas in Eorzea will experience an umbrally charged fog known as “gloom.”
• The aitches in certain Miqo'te names represent a slight hissing sound. Since other races cannot make this sound, the aitches become silent.
• The Great Goobbue Wall of Ul'dah, referenced in “He Who Waited Behind,” was real! It was created by adventurers on the eve of the Calamity.
• Some Eorzeans believe that after death, souls must endure the trials of six hells before passing into the eternal damnation of the seventh.
• Beastmen refer to the five races with a variety of colorful titles including 'smoothskin,' 'overdweller,' 'uplander,' and 'spoken ones.'
• The Keepers of the Moon have a matriarchal society, with surnames passed down from mother to child—some since the First Astral Era.
• Determining a goblin's gender is as easy as looking at the last two letters of their name: “～ix” for males and “～ox” for females.
• Inspector extraordinaire Hildebrand's monocle is merely for vanity purposes, and does not actually contain a functional lens.
• The Syndicate, Ul'dah's ruling body, has six members─six members who also happen to be the six richest citizens in all the sultanate.

Not too many new info that we already knew, but still a nice condensed version

It's a shame its not (yet) added in the game.

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Originally Posted by myahele

• It is believed the Miqo'te first came to Eorzea during the Fifth Umbral Era, fleeing their ravaged homeland on the southern continent of Meracydia.

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Ugh, you mean there is actual lore to support my half-joking theory that the Miqo'te were enslaved by the Allagan Empire? Not sure how I feel about that, honestly.
(Yes, that would have been in the Third Astral Era, but considering what was happening in Meracydia around then...)

Wow, so the basic summery of it is that this information exists in the code and wasn't mentioned? I'll give it that some was only vaguely referenced and a lot of it is data from 1.0 that was mentioned but with the exception of the Miqo'te being from Myracidia most of this information is either well known or a developer referencing a Joke in the Player Base. (Like Roegadyn eating Lalafells, I think that was carried over from FF11 like the Lulgoon joke)

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Ugh, you mean there is actual lore to support my half-joking theory that the Miqo'te were enslaved by the Allagan Empire?

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The most populous races in a given place fluctuate with time. For instance, most of the Allag (3A) we've seen have looked hyuran, and yet the Elezen (6A) once thought Eorzea was theirs by right, gifted by the Twelve themselves (and that was based on their numbers after the miqo'te showed up). A lot can happen between two umbral eras; it's roughly a thousand years of population flux, migration, and the fading of Allag remnants. Moreover, patterns suggest that even if the Allag did specifically enslave Meracydians in the sunset of the Third Astral, Miqo'te-ness it would have been incidental; I'm sure they'd have chained them, the dragons, and all the others who happened to be represented in the area at the time, same as every other area they conquered (assuming they slavery was a big thing in their Empire at all).

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Do you have any idea how many times I've gotten messages asking what quest told people's Miqo'te roleplayer friends that systematic and culture-wide Miqo'te-specific sex slavery is established canon (as if trafficking falls in and out of vogue over the years and confines itself to a race at a time)? I shake my fist in your general direction if you had a hand in this, good sir!

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

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Do you have any idea how many times I've gotten messages asking what quest told people's Miqo'te roleplayer friends that systematic and culture-wide Miqo'te-specific sex slavery is established canon (as if trafficking falls in and out of vogue over the years and confines itself to a race at a time)? I shake my fist in your general direction if you had a hand in this, good sir!

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I can actually say I had no part in that. The sole extent of my musings on Miqo'te, slavery, and the Allagans are summed up in these posts here. Mostly crazy talk, but I'll wager there's truth in there somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

I can actually say I had no part in that.

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Bah. The true culprits continue to elude me, then. One day I will find the source of this, and oh, the fist-shakery that will ensue!

Please also see the edit I just made. I feel like this has happened before.

I'm somewhat confused by Meracydia. It's not considered a great continent, but it's still considered a continent?

I am more interested in that Miqo'tes can trace their roots back up to the 1st Astral Era. Back then, nobody really knew if the current races came to be/evolved in more recent astral/umbral eras

At the very least, Miqo'te are

It's true! I was there...

http://i.imgur.com/X7kAo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7OEY6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/C7Vxs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Q5V3y.jpg

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Originally Posted by myahele

It's not considered a great continent, but it's still considered a continent?

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The shapes aren't necessarily similar, but geographically (sometimes culturally, too), the Three Great Continents are essentially akin the Old World. Eorzea is "Africa," Ilsabard is "Europe," and Othard is "Asia." (Sidenote: Do not let this make you forget that Eorzea is actually based on Greece, whereas Garlemald is geographically based on Persia and culturally based on Rome.) If one considered the Old World "three great continents," it wouldn't mean that Australia wasn't a thing. Though I can't say that Meracydia is specifically Australia in this metaphor; Thavnair is apparently the Ottoman territory, but on its own island, and the Americas truly are out there - the mamool brought avacados.

omg, I was there too, same server..hehe :) That is so cool they put that into the game lore! :D

Eorzea also has obvious shades of the Americas as far as its New World aspects (and the musket-punk tech), and I always read into Garlemald, Roman naming aside, as being a decent parallel to Kaiser Wilhelm's Germany in the great strides it takes to emulate a certain fallen empire of yore.

But it's ultimately one of those settings, with just enough mix-and-match going on to make more than one interpretation valid at once.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

It's true! I was there...

http://i.imgur.com/X7kAo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7OEY6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/C7Vxs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Q5V3y.jpg

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ZOMG you were on Mysidia!!!! I recognize a few of the names in there from the ls I was in Holy Dragoon... delirium Impulse!!!! I wish i could have been there for the wall but I had to work that day >.<

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Originally Posted by myahele

[*]Eorzea is located on Aldenard, one of the Three Great Continents. The other two─Ilsabard and Othard─lie to the north and northeast, respectively.

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Wait, what the hell?

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

Wait, what the hell?

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You know that bit on the Eorzea map that's labeled "The Garlean Empire"? Well that's Othard. Ilsabard is directly to the north, past the island of Sharlayan. As someone else said, think of Europe Asia and Africa, and how they connect to each other.

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Originally Posted by Rannie

ZOMG you were on Mysidia!!!! I recognize a few of the names in there from the ls I was in Holy Dragoon... delirium Impulse!!!! I wish i could have been there for the wall but I had to work that day >.<

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I was indeed from Beta to the night Dalamud came crashing down on our heads. Holy Dragoon was a great person from my exp with them. I was hoping to see them again on Sarg, as well as a few others. There was the one who was one of the writers for an online game site but I cannot remember his name.

This time was possibly one of the best times I have ever spent in a game. People got along so well, no one trolled or was rude. People cooperated and worked together. Then there was just the actual chatting, met so many great ppl. Too bad I lost contact with so many of em.

Yeah holy left and went to another server. We did all decide to go to sargatanas though. And some are still. There but yeah mysidia was great I miss it. Holy was who I called my Beta buddy he was talking to me on our Seraphim chat when I got the email invite for 1.0 closed beta I miss him.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Ugh, you mean there is actual lore to support my half-joking theory that the Miqo'te were enslaved by the Allagan Empire? Not sure how I feel about that, honestly.
(Yes, that would have been in the Third Astral Era, but considering what was happening in Meracydia around then...)

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Well....to be fair, the Allagans prbably enslaved/ subjugated every race and nation that they've conquered. Similar to how the Garleans do it

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Originally Posted by myahele

Well....to be fair, the Allagans prbably enslaved/ subjugated every race and nation that they've conquered. Similar to how the Garleans do it

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To be fair, I never ment to imply Miqo'te exclusively. Just that there are interesting implications there that will probably never be proven either way. Until the time travel xpac, anyway.

I wonder if they'll ever impliment these? Some of them seem like they might start getting outdated.

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Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

I wonder if they'll ever impliment these? Some of them seem like they might start getting outdated.

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Yeah, alot of these are very useful information and would've been fun to read while loading into zones.

Looking the the wiki it looks like they planned on implementing lore quests. They had http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...Mob19_Icon.png icons

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These "Lorequest" icons are found in the files of the game, but are not yet used.

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Well, maybe they relate to the Library that Fern has been trying to get added to the game?

In the trailers posted a few weeks back there was a Sharlayan Library (?) that showed a Scholar.

It looked like a dungeon, but who's to say that we can explore it and get extra "lorequest" after clearing it from monsters? Maybe it can be like moogle delivery quests where we get a new batch per patch?

It was mentioned that DoLs will have certain access to various regional lore in 3.0. Might be that?

From: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2919167

Additionally, we’ll be implementing regional folklore, which are high-level items for those who have reached the new level cap. Think of these as the Disciples of the Land equivalent of master recipe books.

Wow, love this lore bits, now I'd like to know more about Meracydia, miqo'tes and their possible Allagan slavery!

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Originally Posted by Greven

Wow, love this lore bits, now I'd like to know more about Meracydia, miqo'tes and their possible Allagan slavery!

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There's something going on with the Allagans and at the very least the Seekers of the Sun, if a certain wayward prince is any indication, but my gut tells me that it isn't simply that the 5+ races lived in perfect peace and equality during the Third Astral Era...

Since the Allag Empire lasted so long, I do believe that all (or most) of the other races(including their respective clans) were enslaved/ subjugated just like what the Garleans are doing right now.

However, since they lasted so long (thousands of years?) then perhaps the racial boundaries diminished somewhat? Clearly, pure-blooded Allagans >>>all, but maybe the other races ended up having decent positions and were more or less treated equally pre Allag Xande clone's reconquest?

We know that G'raha Tia's ancestor (a trusted companion of the Allagan princess) was given Allag blood. Although with interbreeding possible, I'm not sure if he was a miqo'te

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Originally Posted by myahele

We know that G'raha Tia's ancestor (a trusted companion of the Allagan princess) was given Allag blood. Although with interbreeding possible, I'm not sure if he was a miqo'te

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My actual suspicion on that is that at some point in the very recent past, the current chosen heir to the line of "Desch" boned a female from the Gryphon clan and managed to (somehow) pass on the trait without meaning to, which also explains the loss of any oral tradition that you'd think would be passed on even if Salina's actual memories had faded. The "Allag" clue was probably the last to fade, but G'raha wouldn't have even had that if not for his grandfather. Still trying to figure out why G'raha had a hard time as a kid for having the same glowing red eye as the nunh who sired him, but it may simply be that the Gryphon are much more integrated into Sharlayan society than, say, the Drake to Ul'dah, or the Wolf to Limsa, and it was the non Miqo'te who bullied him.

We can explain everything based on the rules we know, but any tiny reveal could change that. This is all a story that could easily never be told, though, so I'm speculating just for the lulz.

I thought the implication of G'raha's Allagan eye was that Miqo'te are somehow related to the Allagan genetic engineering projects. Miqo'te are "from Meracydia", which was subjugated by the Allagans. Maybe making cat people was one of Amon's side projects. Pic related.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/...2491923-25.jpg

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Originally Posted by axemtitanium

I thought the implication of G'raha's Allagan eye was that Miqo'te are somehow related to the Allagan genetic engineering projects. Miqo'te are "from Meracydia", which was subjugated by the Allagans. Maybe making cat people was one of Amon's side projects. Pic related.

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I dont think that is true.
And who said that Miqo'tes are from Meracydia?? All we know is that they came to Eorzea during the Fifth Umbral Era, we dont know nothing about their origin lands. Maybe they were just nomad tribes that moved during those times looking for food, as the lore said.
My opinion on G'raha's ancestors is that on some point of time, probable time after or during the Fight Umbral Era, a hyur and a miqote fall in love or just happened the orther, what do we know what could have happen after a new race showed up on those times lol. Also has being how more than a millenia, and if inter recial relations can be done. then is possible that the ancestors of G'raha were hyrus decendants of the allag civilisation

In the first post, it's mentioned in as of yet unused loading screen tips within the game's files:

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It is believed the Miqo'te first came to Eorzea during the Fifth Umbral Era, fleeing their ravaged homeland on the southern continent of Meracydia.

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It is "believed" doesn't mean it's necessarily true, though I see no reason to doubt it.

My "Miqo'te were genetically engineered" theory is mostly an obscure joke about a certain famous visual novel featuring precursor-engineered cat-people (with a crazy male:female ratio, but leaning male) and inherited destinies involving hope and renewal. If the Miqo'te actually do end up being one giant Lamento ~beyond the void~ joke though I'll be able to say I called it, but I may facepalm first.

Based on the file:

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The Keepers of the Moon have a matriarchal society, with surnames passed down from mother to child—some since the First Astral Era

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So miqo'te existed a very long time. Lol, maybe they were one of the 1st "human" race?

Additionally, prior to this data, all we knew was that miqo'te migrated from a southern continent into Eorzea and it was speculated that it was Meracydia due to it being the only southern continent we knew at the time. At least now this info pretty much confirms it.

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Originally Posted by myahele

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So miqo'te existed a very long time. Lol, maybe they were one of the 1st "human" race?

Additionally, prior to this data, all we knew was that miqo'te migrated from a southern continent into Eorzea and it was speculated that it was Meracydia due to it being the only southern continent we knew at the time. At least now this info pretty much confirms it.

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And since their existence dates back to the First Astral Era, the Allagans couldn't have created them, because their rise and fall was in the Third Astral Era.

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

And since their existence dates back to the First Astral Era, the Allagans couldn't have created them, because their rise and fall was in the Third Astral Era.

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Couldn't have created the Keepers, at least. The Seekers are beastier, like they've had a bit more animal mixed in. Hmmmm...

Makes me proud to be part of that wall.
Think I went Kashuan -> Gungnir.