This is starting to piss me off.
I'm an event person, it's one of the things I enjoy the most when I play a MMORPG. I always participate in all of them... when I'm allowed, and unfortunately... I'm European.
First you made the Valentione's event for NA people only. Then the Realm Redubbed one too (and this one I really wanted to participate) and now you leave us out of the Au'Ra twitter contest.
Are you being serious? Why is this? There's not even a physical prize! I would understand if the prize was a plushie or whatever and you had to ship it to... idk... Spain. But it's a twitter contest and the reward is an in-game item...
I just can't find a reason and after being left out for the third time I'm actually mad right now. So please explain. Is this a legal thing? You can't host a twitter event out of the Americas? You don't have enough people to review all the entries? Do you need community managers for Europe? Because I'll gladly apply for the job.
/angry /frustrated /fume
PD: Oh and I won't talk about the fact that the last 5 or 6 events had the same exact prize, so if you won the first you're done.
Ok let's talk about events and Europeans
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04-28-2015, 06:11 PMYitanOk let's talk about events and Europeans
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04-28-2015, 06:16 PMBluevann
My best guess is that it has to do with laws of the EU concerning contests. There is probably a bunch of paperwork SE just doesn't want to bother with...
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04-28-2015, 06:20 PMJimboTCB
US is one country, two if you extend it to Canada. EU is a whole bunch of countries with different local laws. Plus there's probably localisation concerns as well and a lack of interest in translating content to/from non-English languages if they can help it. It all falls under the category of "too much effort to bother with".
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04-28-2015, 06:21 PMSilver-dream
I wonder that myself, Why EU never get contest and are restricted from entering most of them.
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04-28-2015, 06:23 PMSunako_Nakahara
the amount of events for the US is very small compaired to the JP side forum activity from mods as well. Se has People that work in the US on the french and german localization in
but they don't employ any full time forum moderators for the EN/FR/De Don't expect events they are something that a bonus, Don't expect forum replies information is given on need
to know only. This isnt blizzard or a social media outlet. For year SE had no form of comunication with NA or EU outside of support lines. -
04-28-2015, 06:39 PMXieveral
The Grant a Wish contest was EU-exclusive, featuring Scarf of Wondrous Wit as a prize. I believe this is the first contest offering it to NA players. I agree that if the prize is virtual, it should be a contest open to all regions (as they do with the seasonal screenshot contests). As an NA player, I was envious of the Grant a Wish contest.
EU-exclusive events:
Grant a Wish contest
The Great Eorzean Cook-Off
All-Saint's Wake Haiku
NA-Exclusive events:
Doppelganger Screenshot Contest
Your FATE is Sealed (I suppose this one is understandable since there was a physical prize being offered)
Eorzea IRL (also physical prize)
Be My Valentione
My Au Ra
NA and EU were even on exclusives up until this year's Valentione event.
To add another level of wrong, I dislike that this and the Eozea IRL contests required use of Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio
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04-28-2015, 06:41 PMYitanYeah, I know. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Xieveral
I don't get why is there EU or NA exclusive events >_> Make them all available to everyone so everyone have the same chances to win...! -
04-28-2015, 06:42 PMOphie-Mio
Are you serious? You fail to mention the fact that not even EVERYONE in the NA can participate? I'm a console player and I can't have a benchmark program, let alone the ability to actually join this event.
It's wrong on a few levels, not just that EU can't do it. -
04-28-2015, 06:48 PMYitanThat's my point really. If you have 3 sons you can't buy candy for one and leave the other two out... you'll traumatize them (Ok, not really)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio
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04-28-2015, 06:53 PMCGMidlanderCanada itself is like two different countries when it comes to contest laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimboTCB
Quebec is different from the other provinces/territories in quite a few things.
http://contests.about.com/od/sweepstakes101/f/VoidinQuebec.htm -
04-28-2015, 07:01 PMkyuventhe US is like that too. Except we have a lot more states with a lot more convoluted gambling laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGMidlander
Seriously. It gets pretty weird in some places. -
04-28-2015, 07:05 PMAdrian74
And some of those european countries have a chore of extensive laws.... (cough, Spain, cough)
It becomes a pain even for those trying to learn it. -
04-28-2015, 07:43 PMSpiroth
-Scarf of Wondrous Wit
-Bluebird Earrings
-Red Lotus Magilites
I want these :(
It doesn't help that there were 30+ Bluebird Earrings just thrown away because the same people won them twice.....
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04-28-2015, 07:50 PMEye_GoreWas going to mention this also. The US has Federal and State law all different, especially when it comes to contests. If you ever read the fine print on alot of things there are states that would be excluded or have variances. Granted Federal law trumps State law in most cases. States are free to make their own laws where no Federal laws exists, or make more stringent laws to current Federal laws. Like minimum wage, the Feds set the absolute minimum but states can increase that amount, just can't lower it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuven
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04-28-2015, 09:52 PMYitanWell at least you have / had the ABILITY to participate and have a chance to win them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiroth
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04-28-2015, 10:03 PMBelhi
My guess is it has to do with different community teams holding the separate events. Laws and such would create a great number of restrictions and in addition there is the question of how much additional work is required to get such a competition to everyone. Slapping a character creator onto a benchmark wouldn't be much work I suspect. Creating something for PS3 and PS4 users to download so that they could play with Au Ra character creation 7 weeks early would be an entirely extra project.
Honestly, these things have to be within SEs budget to facilitate. The real alternative is less or worse no events. Is that actually better?
Frankly as an oceanic player I almost never qualify for any contests anyway. -
04-28-2015, 10:07 PMRiepah
They should quite simply allow EU residents to participate in the NA events if they're capable of speaking the English language to the extent required.
I speak English. I play on an NA server. I live in Europe. Why is that last one such a big deal? Why am I excluded simply because of where I live? If anything, contests should be based on which servers you're on and which languages you speak, not where you live, since no physical prizes are involved at all. -
04-28-2015, 10:11 PMDrOstler
I came here expecting you to be complaining about how awful and bland the in game events are.
Talk to person A
Talk to person B
Talk to person A
Kill this really easy thing
Talk to person B
Talk to person A
Collect vanity gear + housing furniture.
EVERY. EVENT. EVER. -
04-28-2015, 10:49 PMPeachy
Why are you guys angry at SE for this? you dont think they want to include everyone in these hype building community events? there is no benefit for them to leave anyone out, they simply have no choice and some cases its not worth the extra legal effort. The other option is to not do any at all and thats a childish attitude isnt it? SE isnt our parent playing favorites, its a company that doesnt owe you anything, you choose to subscribe.
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04-29-2015, 12:26 AMDevils_Lawyer
There has been events for both NA and EU that has been identical with identical ingame prizes (screenshot contests for example) and that has worked just fine before so aslong as there is no real life or physical prize involved there is no reason why it wouldnt work.
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04-29-2015, 01:05 AMFelisThe Great Eorzean Cook-Off Contest (EU)Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver-dream
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ntest-%28EU%29Quote:
The Contest is only open to existing holders of an active FINAL FANTASY XIV service account (“Service Account”) on 4 March, 2015 09:00am (GMT) who are resident in PAL Territory Country*. Contestants who are residents of France or Spain should refer to the Additional Specific Provisions under these Rules relevant to their country of residence.
* PAL Territory Country means any of the following countries; ÅLAND ISLANDS, ALBANIA, ALGERIA, ANDORRA, ANGOLA, AUSTRALIA, AUSTRIA, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BELARUS, BELGIUM, BHUTAN, BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA, BOTSWANA, BOUVET ISLAND, BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY, BRUNEI DARUSSALAM (nr. Sri Lanka), BULGARIA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC, CHAD, CHRISTMAS ISLAND, COCOS (KEELING) ISLANDS, COMOROS, CONGO, CONGO, THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE, COOK ISLANDS, CROATIA, CYPRUS, CZECH REPUBLIC, DENMARK, DJIBOUTI, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ESTONIA, ETHIOPIA, FAROE ISLANDS, FIJI, FINLAND, FRANCE, FRENCH GUIANA, FRENCH POLYNESIA, FRENCH SOUTHERN TERRITORIES (South Pacific), GABON, GEORGIA, GERMANY, GIBRALTAR, GREECE, GREENLAND, GUERNSEY, HOLY SEE (VATICAN CITY STATE), HUNGARY, ICELAND, INDIA, IRELAND, ISLE OF MAN, ISRAEL, ITALY, JERSEY, JORDAN, KAZAKHSTAN, KENYA, KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LATVIA, LESOTHO, LIECHTENSTEIN, LITHUANIA, LUXEMBOURG, MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF, MADAGASCAR, MALAWI, MALDIVES (Sri Lanka), MALTA, MAURITANIA (West Africa), MAURITIUS, MAYOTTE, MONACO, MONGOLIA, MONTSERRAT, MOROCCO, MOZAMBIQUE, NAMIBIA, NEPAL, NETHERLANDS, NEW CALEDONIA (Australasia), NEW ZEALAND, NORFOLK ISLAND, NORWAY, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PAPUA NEW GUINEA, POLAND, PORTUGAL, QATAR, RÉUNION (S. Africa), ROMANIA, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, SAINT HELENA, SAMOA, SAN MARINO, SAUDI ARABIA, SERBIA, SEYCHELLES, SLOVAKIA, SLOVENIA, SOUTH AFRICA, SPAIN, SWAZILAND, SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, UNITED REPUBLIC OF, TIMOR-LESTE, TOKELAU, TONGA, TUNISIA, TURKEY, TURKMENISTAN, UKRAINE, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED KINGDOM, VATICAN CITY STATE, YEMEN, ZAMBIA
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04-29-2015, 01:43 AMYitanExactly my thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer
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04-29-2015, 03:06 AMSpirothQuote:
Originally Posted by Yitan
Hey, European too.
What item is being given on this contest btw? -
04-29-2015, 03:21 AMCatsBesErrwhereThing SE thinks that europeans must have massive cow tits that can be milked regularly while offering nowhere near the support or "care". Heres how it works even outside of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yitan
https://scontent-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...92657556_o.jpg
I know this aint FF14 related however i think its the best example that shows what exactly europe is to them and how they approach anything related to us (yes including ff14 ) -
04-29-2015, 04:06 AMYitanhttp://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/e89...5679b848_1.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Spiroth
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04-29-2015, 04:39 AMWarlyx
ingame exclusive items should be available FOR EVERYONE period (outside of ca$h $hop)
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04-29-2015, 05:53 AMBluevann
Yeah, well, not everyone can cook. I for one cannot boil water without burning it. It'd be much better to have a contest where everyone can actually participate like, you know.... one that only asks you to twit an image...
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04-29-2015, 05:56 AMFeyniphiaI live in Quebec and we're banned from all SE contests. >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio