Gilspam.. ugh! :X

So, I've been logged into ff for probably 90 hours by now. At this rate I'll be able to play for another 40 before my blacklist is completely full... and every single one so far is from gilspam. Could square enix PLEASE do something about this? It's gotten so bad I have one window dedicated for just tells, and I don't pay attention to it anymore. Here's my solution:
add the ability to right click on player's name in the chat ---> report gil spam. Window pops up to confirm (or cancel) the request. If cancelled, things continue on as if the report attempt never happened. If confirmed, player being reported is unable to send any more messages to the player. If enough reports are filled against spammer, they are either automatically muted, so they can not comunicate in game for a period of time, or automatically banned for a period of time. (This ban is subject to review by a GM.)

I really hope this gets fixed. If the gilspammers aren't bad enough, I saw not one but TWO hackers using some sort of teleport hack less then a hour ago. Now, i don't know a whole lot about archers - which is what both of them were - but I'm fairly certain you can't blink about 30~m in less then a second at level ONE.

If it wasn't for the fact that I'm playing with friends, I'd quit final fantasy because of these two issues. /endrant

Ohai, you must be new here. First of all you can circumvent to 1000 char limit by using the "Edit post" ability.

You are not the first person to complain about this. I don't know what is going on about the RMT problem, but there are a few things you can do. 1) Don't buy gil. 2) If you don't anticipate getting a /tell from outside your FC and linkshell channels you can use /busy to block all tells, 3) If you see someone doing obvious botting (like say 4 people in the same outfits auto-killing the same mobs), initiating a trade with them will get the botting hack to stop; bonus if bot in mid fight, which will cause mob to kill bot. 4) Report suspicious activity using the Support Desk, and point out said suspicious activity to other players and encourage them to do the same.

Oh yeah, and don't buy gil.

Think of the RMTs as FFXIV's welcoming committee to new people, a welcoming committee that never goes away even when you're not new anymore. One that never goes away. Ever.

Can't blame you for contemplating quitting over it though. I know I would have quit if I had started playing on a server that didn't lock out character creation all the time and therefore slow down the bots.

If my first 100 messages were all sent within an hour by spambots, I would have lol'd so hard and not taken the game seriously.

RMT = ff commercials. Sooner or later you'll just get used to it. Oh and make sure you say hi. They like that.

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Originally Posted by Anna_Lannis

3) If you see someone doing obvious botting (like say 4 people in the same outfits auto-killing the same mobs), initiating a trade with them will get the botting hack to stop; bonus if bot in mid fight, which will cause mob to kill bot.

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Please don't suggest this as a means of dealing with alleged rmt bots.

This is against the terms of service and is a bannable offense.

Whiston is probably correct unfortunately.

It wouldn't surprise me if you're more likely to get banned for interrupting bots than bots are to get banned for botting.

So my recommendation: Leave them be. Report them if you feel like it, but know that SE has a team of 3 people to deal with it. 3 people to deal with the ocean of bots. So action probably won't be taken anytime soon.

Best way to fight RMT; find out what makes it so popular-->getting something of benefit for the gil. What is it? BiS crafter gear (in a lot of cases) and run selling are the major turning points. Why do people sell runs? It's often to make the ends meet to be able to afford those BiS items, as this game doesn't really give full time raiders much keys to make gil.

My proposition? Never make crafted/buyable gear BiS. That way, the benefit of gil is taken away. That in turn is also gonna affect run-selling, reducing it by a large margin. I do realize that some people RMT for expensive vanity items, but in any games I have played where the best gear can't be bought the RMT hasn't been anywhere as bad as here.

Also take more active role into banning those gold selling scrubs faster.

I'm glad that when I started, I didn't see any pm sent to me. It was later on they started to bug me.

As a fellow player on Jenova I feel your anguish. Best bet is too go on /busy status pretty much all the time. You'll have to remember to drop busy status to get into a party for something like Hunts of Fate groups. Also might want to drop it before going into raids if you want to see the 'Ready Check' prompts.

If you don't like having the red busy face up all the time the next option is muting or changing the PM notification sound to something less aggravating and moving /tell to its own window.

As far as blacklisting. Try not to blacklist after one message find the ones that send multiple tells in short spans and messages from multiple names advertising the same site.

Other than that not much you can do to combat it. Just deal....

Be glad you don't have Sell in your name, apparently that translates to "SELL ME GOLD PLS". I can get nearly 25 messages in an hour.

Today I noticed, however, that there was a lot less whispers than usual. Really made me happy. :)

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Originally Posted by Selli

Be glad you don't have Sell in your name, apparently that translates to "SELL ME GOLD PLS". I can get nearly 25 messages in an hour.

Today I noticed, however, that there was a lot less whispers than usual. Really made me happy. :)

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LoL I can't lie just seeing the letters S-E-L-L in your name made me flipout with RMTz Omgz.. lol sad sad sad

the issue is the only server i have a character on that isn't spammed is Balmung, but the downside is none can make a character, as long as the RMT gets suckers or response, then they see a profit, if they weren't making profit they would stop :c and all they need to be considered a profit is someone buying gil from a 3rd party, or gaining something from the 3rd party, WoW was badly affected by this were people could buy 100gold by paying £40 (it was even on the news back in 2008 in the uk)

the best thing you can do is go on /busy or ignore them as best as you can, the thing SE can do is have an option that says "only allow tells from friends" "white list tells with the following words" "only allow tells from anyone when recruiting for PF" those 3 options would allow a lot of the RMT spam to be deleted, it wasn't as bad as 2.0 where they spammed Say Yell and Shout D: i am glad those days are gone.

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Originally Posted by Whiston

Please don't suggest this as a means of dealing with alleged rmt bots.

This is against the terms of service and is a bannable offense.

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Yeah, because the bot is going to report her and all

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Originally Posted by Morbid

LoL I can't lie just seeing the letters S-E-L-L in your name made me flipout with RMTz Omgz.. lol sad sad sad

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I'm unoriginal and I've been using Selli since I was about 6 (my real name is Selina so it branched into the nickname Selli). I've never had an issue with it, in most of the MMOs I played the gil spammers just abused general /say chat or global chat.

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

the issue is the only server i have a character on that isn't spammed is Balmung, but the downside is none can make a character, as long as the RMT gets suckers or response, then they see a profit, if they weren't making profit they would stop :c and all they need to be considered a profit is someone buying gil from a 3rd party, or gaining something from the 3rd party, WoW was badly affected by this were people could buy 100gold by paying £40 (it was even on the news back in 2008 in the uk)

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You are very very lucky these days :( I am playing on Balmung and since a few weeks (the time we had to sign the new rules) the gil spammers are back again.

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Originally Posted by Selli

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I'm unoriginal and I've been using Selli since I was about 6 (my real name is Selina so it branched into the nickname Selli). I've never had an issue with it, in most of the MMOs I played the gil spammers just abused general /say chat or global chat.

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It's not you that makes me flip or the name. Its the gilspammers. You're fine and your name is wonderful...

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Originally Posted by Chiffre

You are very very lucky these days :( I am playing on Balmung and since a few weeks (the time we had to sign the new rules) the gil spammers are back again.

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I rarely get 3 PMS during the day...I ll go up to 5 PMS but that is not that bad compared to other servers that the shout channel is infested by Gil sellers. Sometimes I don't get PMS in two days.

I'm just glad there is VERY few if any gil spam messages on my server. I feel sorry for these other servers.

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Originally Posted by dekal

I rarely get 3 PMS during the day...I ll go up to 5 PMS but that is not that bad compared to other servers that the shout channel is infested by Gil sellers. Sometimes I don't get PMS in two days.

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I just notices that the ammount of Gil spamm increased in the last few weeks and my bf noticed the same.

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Originally Posted by DamnDeadAgain

So, I've been logged into ff for probably 90 hours by now. At this rate I'll be able to play for another 40 before my blacklist is completely full... and every single one so far is from gilspam. Could square enix PLEASE do something about this? It's gotten so bad I have one window dedicated for just tells, and I don't pay attention to it anymore.

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There is a formal petition for action against RMT, also here is a list of player suggestions; if you have any to add that aren't already there, please post. Thanks for voicing your concern! :D

yes, you can always block tells, but whenever your in one of the starter cities, they still spam there /shout channels. I'ts been the same one on my server for awhile in ulda. So I guss I need to create a separate tab for /shout and just ignore that one now if I'm ever in town.

Kinda sux though for people who use shout to try to get a crafter to meld meteria for them. But that happens very rarely. So wont really miss anything ignoring the /shout channel anyways.

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Originally Posted by ShaneDawn

Best way to fight RMT; find out what makes it so popular-->getting something of benefit for the gil. What is it? BiS crafter gear (in a lot of cases) and run selling are the major turning points. Why do people sell runs? It's often to make the ends meet to be able to afford those BiS items, as this game doesn't really give full time raiders much keys to make gil.

My proposition? Never make crafted/buyable gear BiS. That way, the benefit of gil is taken away. That in turn is also gonna affect run-selling, reducing it by a large margin. I do realize that some people RMT for expensive vanity items, but in any games I have played where the best gear can't be bought the RMT hasn't been anywhere as bad as here.

Also take more active role into banning those gold selling scrubs faster.

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Cure gilselling by permanently making crafting irrelevant in endgame. I presume you also cure athlete's foot by shooting the foot off.

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Originally Posted by Conradus

Cure gilselling by permanently making crafting irrelevant in endgame. I presume you also cure athlete's foot by shooting the foot off.

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That is such a good example. Having the best gear be buyable with in-game currency always promotes RMT and is a bad concept in general. Crafters should be compensated via other means.

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Originally Posted by Adire

Whiston is probably correct unfortunately.

It wouldn't surprise me if you're more likely to get banned for interrupting bots than bots are to get banned for botting.

So my recommendation: Leave them be. Report them if you feel like it, but know that SE has a team of 3 people to deal with it. 3 people to deal with the ocean of bots. So action probably won't be taken anytime soon.

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As a new player of less than two weeks, Square Enix, this is terrifying if it is indeed true...