Relax Deck Restrictions

Less than 60 - From 1 x 5* or worse and 4 x 2* or worse to a deck limit of 13* total (e.g.4/3/2/2/2 or 4/4/2/2/1 or 5/3/3/1/1 would be valid decks)
Greater than 60- From 1 x 5* or worse and 4 x 3* or worse to a deck limit of 17* total (e.g. 5/5/4/2/1, 5/4/4/2/2, or 4/4/4/3/2 be valid decks)

This way players with less than 60 cards could challenge those with 60+ and not be at a complete disadvantage unless rules were in their favor.

Its already easy enough, this is a mini game, it has to take some time at least to go through (And can still be done rather fast)
The way things are right now is fine, else its just free handouts.

U better get used to it... Ik i did lol
Cuz in 3.0 they might even make more bs limitations tht will require 90 or 100 cards to unlock another tier of unlimited usage.
So if u fall behind u probs will get overwhelmed by the vast disparity unless that is if they improve the rng drops.

It's fine as it is, otherwise there would be no sense of accomplishment. I have 65 cards and even with abysmal luck, that was only a couple of weeks' worth of casual matches.

If anything, they should adjust the usefulness of 4* cards, because once you have a 5* you will rarely, if ever, use a 4* instead, which means they're all useless.

I agree its ridiculous only those who have saved up almost every card can actually choose multiple good ones. I have Squall, then fill the rest of my deck with 2 Stars, since it took long enough unlocking the ability to use more than one 2 Star. Those who still are limited to only 1 rare and the rest 1 stars are no match for me. Those who are able to have a deck with a 5 Star and the rest 3 Stars are at a huge advantage over. Doesn't matter how many good 3 or 4 star cards I have, since to use any I would need to replace my 5 Star.

It takes heavily away from the ability of someone to mostly use skill in order to win, but adds a heavy element of needing to grind before you can use most of your good cards. I think if the restrictions were removed and people were allowed to bet gil in battles, it would make triad much more interesting.

Yes it must be nerfed immediately! Getting to 60 cards takes a tiny bit of effort, how dare they *shakes fist*

seriously... if you don't enjoy playing people who have the advantage from putting in a bit of effort, then don't play them? and if you don't like playing the cheating npcs who have vastly superior decks even with "random", then welcome to the same thing everyone else went through without complaining about it

I complained so hard then bam i got to 60 cards from starter deck in less than 2 weeks lol.
The more i complained the more i wanted to reach 60 so i can enjoy the easy life of mgp grinding lol.

deck restrictions are fine as they are.. its really not that hard to hit the 60 cards they designed it this way so you put in the effort in unlocking the next deck restrictions

This is not a "boohoo, 60 cards too hard" whine thread. I made my point poorly and you guys homing in on the wrong thing. The issue I'm taking up with the current restrictions are that they are far too limiting on deck composition. But:

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Originally Posted by Konigs

If anything, they should adjust the usefulness of 4* cards, because once you have a 5* you will rarely, if ever, use a 4* instead, which means they're all useless.

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Originally Posted by Nexus_Limitless

I agree its ridiculous only those who have saved up almost every card can actually choose multiple good ones. I have Squall, then fill the rest of my deck with 2 Stars, since it took long enough unlocking the ability to use more than one 2 Star. Those who still are limited to only 1 rare and the rest 1 stars are no match for me. Those who are able to have a deck with a 5 Star and the rest 3 Stars are at a huge advantage over. Doesn't matter how many good 3 or 4 star cards I have, since to use any I would need to replace my 5 Star.

It takes heavily away from the ability of someone to mostly use skill in order to win, but adds a heavy element of needing to grind before you can use most of your good cards. I think if the restrictions were removed and people were allowed to bet gil in battles, it would make triad much more interesting.

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These guys get it.

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Originally Posted by randysquirrel

Yes it must be nerfed immediately! Getting to 60 cards takes a tiny bit of effort, how dare they *shakes fist*

seriously... if you don't enjoy playing people who have the advantage from putting in a bit of effort, then don't play them? and if you don't like playing the cheating npcs who have vastly superior decks even with "random", then welcome to the same thing everyone else went through without complaining about it

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Troll. I was at 62 cards at time of posting. My true gripe with the restrictions that drove me posting this is that it's we are forced to collect 15 (4*+) cards that we can only use one of in a single deck. I feel that we should be able to more than one with compromise hence my examples.

I didnt play TT that much yet, but with the current restrictions, arent most of your cards useless? For example, why would you use any of your 4 star cards if you have a 5 star? or once you have >60 cards, is there any use for 1 star, 2 star cards still? If they would limit the total stars you can have in your deck, like suggested here, it would allow more combinations.

i can't for the life of me get past 29 cards collected. and i have gone through 20+ gold packs and have got nothing but Momodi every time. spent an entire week farming instances, and several hours here and there playing at NPC's. (i have already finished the Bronze and Silver packs.) i have NEVER once got a card from an NPC. in the end i just can't manage to hit that 30 mark. i am sure i'm not the only out there with such a terrible experience. the deck restrictions are too excessive. either that, increase the chance to get a card from an NPC. i have been trying to get 30 cards since day 1 of the Gold Saucer... so yeah, it's terrible.

there's nothing i can do better. farm an NPC... farm a dungeon... farm MGP... in the end it is all about luck. and us players with the most terrible luck are getting shafted by these restrictions. can increase the reward rate for cards at an NPC. they don't all need an increase, just some of the weaker cards. or revise the restrictions. i am not saying to completely abolish them, and understand their purpose.

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

i can't for the life of me get past 29 cards collected. and i have gone through 20+ gold packs and have got nothing but Momodi every time. spent an entire week farming instances, and several hours here and there playing at NPC's. (i have already finished the Bronze and Silver packs.) i have NEVER once got a card from an NPC. in the end i just can't manage to hit that 30 mark. i am sure i'm not the only out there with such a terrible experience. the deck restrictions are too excessive. either that, increase the chance to get a card from an NPC. i have been trying to get 30 cards since day 1 of the Gold Saucer... so yeah, it's terrible.

there's nothing i can do better. farm an NPC... farm a dungeon... farm MGP... in the end it is all about luck. and us players with the most terrible luck are getting shafted by these restrictions. can increase the reward rate for cards at an NPC. they don't all need an increase, just some of the weaker cards. or revise the restrictions. i am not saying to completely abolish them, and understand their purpose.

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Funny thing is, I broke my 30 card limit by buying the Senna Twins card. That's 0% luck and 100% blowing 9,600 MGP. This is what those of us (My self at one time included) who play TCGs IRL put up with every day. "I need one more card to finish my deck" <Opens 800 USD worth of packs> "damn it still no card!" <Guys standing next to you opens one pack and pulls the card you need> "God Damn it".

lmao... i know. and i was just thinking that saving up a crap ton of MGP and buying one of those expensive cards would my last option to hit that 30mark. but it doesn't really do much good when trying to get the 60 card mark. most likely would have had 30 cards by now, if i didn't waste so much MGP on those RIGGED Gold Packs.

all-in-all, i was under the impression this was supposed to be some sort of casual aspect to FFXIV. IMO, a casual goal shouldn't last much longer then a month, intermediate goals like 2~3 months and hardcore goals like 4~6 months. at the moment it feels like Triple Triad is one of the hardcore goals... is just not fun. i don't mind a challenge in collecting the cards, but it shouldn't be so damn difficult to just get on to your feet.

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

all-in-all, i was under the impression this was supposed to be some sort of casual aspect to FFXIV. IMO, a casual goal shouldn't last much longer then a month, intermediate goals like 2~3 months and hardcore goals like 4~6 months. at the moment it feels like Triple Triad is one of the hardcore goals... is just not fun. i don't mind a challenge in collecting the cards, but it shouldn't be so damn difficult to just get on to your feet.

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Actually it's the reverse. Since Hard Core content has a power scale that's usually a good bit above the average player then for the elite of elites it only takes a few weeks to crush it (Take Lucrecia for example). How ever casual content is the opposite because it's time scaled to players that intend to take their time instead of rush through it. Thus why the Relic Quest seems to drag on for ever, it's suppose to be more gradual than all at once.

Of course that's from the development perspective. Me personally I think that the balance between "short but too difficult" and "Simple but too long" is vastly skewed against the average player with little to no room on the upper end for solo players and anti-static players (Like me). While at the same time the longer "Casual" content has no room for those who are unable to dedicate an extended amount of time to the game (Like people with jobs and family for example)