Primal Mounts

I still have yet to get 1 not even the Nightmare. Can we at least buy the first 4 with Rowandas Tokens. I feel 9 tokens per mount would be fair (3 months to get all 4). I've done all primal so many times. Hell I've done Shiva EX so many times that I have all 5 Bracelets and all 10 Weapons, and I've Diamond upgrade all 10 no lie. I know RNG is part of MMOs and I also understand no one is entitled but I fell like I'm never going to get Horsey. Who supports this

Leave them rare, please. I don't even own one, but I like rare, hard to attain things in the game.

I think sometime s people forget that if there is not difficulty in game things will get dull.

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Originally Posted by SummerSkye

Leave them rare, please. I don't even own one, but I like rare, hard to attain things in the game.

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Especially when it pertains to something completely cosmetic.

I am in a similar situation where I have never acquired a mount, but I have seen them drop. As much as I would desire the legendary kirin mount I don't think I believe that the drop rate should be lowered any further at the current time,

Currently though the difficulty in obtaining the mounts seem fair, it's just in future I would worry about it becoming an impossibility to get 8 people to run the EX primals with you that many times to get them all. I do approve of raising the drop rate to make it almost guaranteed to drop every run after a few months into Heavensward just to get some people doing it again so that people who have been unlucky like the above actually have a chance at completing it one day.

But that's not difficulty. That's luck. Pray to RNGeesus for it to drop and pray harder that you win it against 7 others. To ensure that RNGeesus loves you and gives you his praise, sacrifice a virgin femqote.(Good luck finding one)

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Originally Posted by SummerSkye

Leave them rare, please. I don't even own one, but I like rare, hard to attain things in the game.

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There not rare are hard to get any more I would just like another method instead of never being able to get 1

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Originally Posted by Aerowaffle

Especially when it pertains to something completely cosmetic.

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DUH
1/2 of the game is gear progression and the other is cosmetic. It's old content and in just a few months will probably be dead content. As indicated it would take minimum of 3 weeks for 1 and 3 months for all 4. I just don't want to never got at least one and I know I'm not the only 1.

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Originally Posted by Dragoon4life

DUH
1/2 of the game is gear progression and the other is cosmetic. It's old content and in just a few months will probably be dead content. As indicated it would take minimum of 3 weeks for 1 and 3 months for all 4. I just don't want to never got at least one and I know I'm not the only 1.

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As long as people want the shiny Kirin mount, it'll never be dead content.

I understand your frustration, but right now those ponies are the only thing giving the EX primals any replayability at all. All of the gear from every EX primal is obsolete, except for possible cosmetic glamours. Augmented Ironworks is so easy to get there is no reason to farm any of the weapons or accessories from any EX primal, even Shiva.

I'm sure in 3.0 they prob increase the drop rate of the ponies even more, maybe even 100% who knows. And the 2 new primals they are replacing the 7 old ones with are token based from what I've heard. So primal fights will become obsolete and pointless even faster than ever before. I'm sure that will make some players happy, but others miserable lol. There's no way they can please everyone though.

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Originally Posted by SummerSkye

Leave them rare, please. I don't even own one, but I like rare, hard to attain things in the game.

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But they aren't hard to obtain, the only thing that makes them hard to get is lotting vs 7 other people, i have seen quite enough of them to know that they are no where near rare. it's just rare to win one. especially if you are on a server where even winning primal fights without massive wipes is rare in it self.

You can always start a Kirin static. Get 7 other players in a ls, each person gets a whistle and then move to the next primal.

I think ppl will do the old 3 Primals even more with a token system in place. Just seems ridiculous to do over 100 runs and still not get 1. This leave players who didn't get the mount defeated and while the one that won is unmotivated to continue. Also it is really difficult to get ppl to do Old Content to begin with. Hell look at the New Odin Fight. It was popular for about 2 weeks now no one is doing it so good luck ever getting any. A token system for the old 4 Primal Mounts would get players interested in doing the Old 3 Primals Again.

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Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz

You can always start a Kirin static. Get 7 other players in a ls, each person gets a whistle and then move to the next primal.

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I agree with starting an LS for the other 3 Levi, Ramuh, and Shiva. But Old content is hard too motivate especially if its cosmetic, and not progression.

Or just give up. There will be better mounts in expansion anyways. I given up when I saw 12 ponies get rolled away from me because RNGesus hates me and gives me rolls below 50 for pony mounts.

I suggest don't try to grind it and don't make an effort specifically for pony drops. It'll be like, 80% disappointment and 20% celebration (that you finally got the bloody thing rather than happy you got it) or 100% disappointment when you don't win a pony after a whole day of primal grinding.

I just run primals EX for other reasons, like weapons or helping someone pass it. Pony drops are a bonus, but I'm super pessimistic on my chances of winning them.

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Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz

You can always start a Kirin static. Get 7 other players in a ls, each person gets a whistle and then move to the next primal.

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Unfortunatly this does not work in most cases, people are far to selfish, once they get their mount they "lose" interest and ready to move to the primal they need. friend even told me a tell of a person in their FC begging them to help with primal mount farming and told people he will "gladly" help them farm theirs when he is done, what happend when he got all mounts? never set foot in any primals again.

Actually it's a very proficient way of getting all the mounts. While it's unfortunate that your friend of a friend in some fc shirked their responsibility, doing it the static way is going to increase your odds and the speed in which you get mounts. Agree to terms before you begin, if someone loots and leaves then kick from the static and blist.

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Originally Posted by ChiiSoSeriouz

Actually it's a very proficient way of getting all the mounts. While it's unfortunate that your friend of a friend in some fc shirked their responsibility, doing it the static way is going to increase your odds and the speed in which you get mounts. Agree to terms before you begin, if someone loots and leaves then kick from the static and blist.

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well its not just that one freind, thier have been many more cases of such acts, and plenty of them across all servers, just because you may think that to work for you most other cases, people simply do not care, not everyone will be lucky to find that rare breed of online players that are willing to stick it out untill everyone gets a cosmetic item.

My raid static goes pony farming on occasion. We usually go farm one of the ones that most of us have for a few runs, trying to get the last person their pony so that we can stop going to that one altogether. After a few runs if we haven't had any luck, we move on to one where the entire static needs the pony and continue to farm there.

I'll be happy with a 50% drop as no one does ex primals anymore

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Originally Posted by Mature

I'll be happy with a 50% drop as no one does ex primals anymore

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That explains the dozens of pony farm and Primal Focus PF's I've seen in the past week. >.>

No increase. They already did once already. If you don't like the challenge to get one then get over the need to have one.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

No increase. They already did once already. If you don't like the challenge to get one then get over the need to have one.

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Increase? Who mentioned increase? O.o The OP was talking about making it possible to purchase with the Rowena's tokens you get for doing the weekly primal quest. At the prices the OP suggested, it'd take three weeks to get one. Sure, you could be lucky and get a pony drop by farming during those three weeks, but if you don't get one, you'd at least have something to show for it. And, I believe, this was only requested for the initial three primal mounts plus nightmare, which makes sense since those are the ones to drop from Ifrit/Garuda/Titan.

I wouldn't mind another in-game way of getting them as well. And no, that doesn't mean I'm demanding another way or want them to increase the drop rate or want them to hand the ponies to me. If there is no other way, I will get them through RNG. But I'm all for options for those RNGesus hates (which in some cases would be me, too XD Like others have mentioned, I still don't have a pony, nor do I have the ST minion yet).

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

Increase? Who mentioned increase? O.o

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This person right here:

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Originally Posted by Mature

I'll be happy with a 50% drop as no one does ex primals anymore

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I support this. In fact, I think there should be tokens for all kinds of dungeon-specific loots. Can't get that Foestriker's Tabard? Beat Sastasha/Tam-Tara/Copperbell 5 times each and you can buy it from an NPC.

RNG can be really frustrating and nerve-breaking sometimes. Still remember those 44 Stone Vigil runs before Shadow Bow dropped for me.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

This person right here:

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Ah, ok. Didn't see that post ^^

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

I support this. In fact, I think there should be tokens for all kinds of dungeon-specific loots. Can't get that Foestriker's Tabard? Beat Sastasha/Tam-Tara/Copperbell 5 times each and you can buy it from an NPC.

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do 5 time sastasha/copperbell/tam tara each, so at the point you manage to do all that, you are already at least at level 35 farming brayflox for the cavalry/battlemage gear, and the foestriker is pretty much gonna be desynthetized.

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Originally Posted by Defteros

do 5 time sastasha/copperbell/tam tara each, so at the point you manage to do all that, you are already at least at level 35 farming brayflox for the cavalry/battlemage gear, and the foestriker is pretty much gonna be desynthetized.

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Or maybe one wants it for glamour? The craftable version can be worn only by ARC/BRD. Plus, there will be new classes in the future, so keeping any lv1-49 gear for future use is a good idea. It's pointless to try argue the reasons behind someone for wanting a certain piece of armor.