Pastel colors, gold and silver dyes...

How rare are these and what does one have to do to get them?

It's like there is an entire category of dye I cannot obtain, except for the 3 metallic colors on the MogStation. I know that they can be obtained by retainers on ventures, but my retainers must be terribly bad at finding dye, since I've had none. I was hoping that these might be used as prize items at the Gold Saucer, but that has come and gone without the dyes appearing. So, how do you get them?

Retainer quick venture is how you get em. When they first came out I was able to get them with retainer ilvl 80+. Botanist started bringing them back at gathering 280 or 312. Don't remember that one for sure. This may have changed due to the i100 venture being added.

You may be able to find already dyed items to purchase on the market boards, as well. For example, I bought a couple of pastel pink dyed items the other day.

Good luck with your dye hunting! :)

Pretty rare. I never got any until my retainer was i90 - I got her to i100 yesterday though so maybe I'll start getting them more often.
I wish they were buyable somewhere though...I'd rather pay a vendor 100k a pot for a color I need than wait an hour hoping my retainer brought back what I want. (Hint: she didn't) I'm probably going to give up on jet black in a couple days and just buy it from someone (trade item, pay, dye, return)

They're from retainer ventures and they're somewhat rare. The metallic colors are the most common, followed by black/white, and then the pastels. I have 2 retainers, one is i120 and the other is i100. The i100 has brought me back more dyes, but the i120 retainer has given me all of my pastel colors.

I'm thinking i80-i90 is when your retainer can start bringing back dyes fairly commonly.

I get the "rare" dyes around every 1/3rd venture i send my retainers out on, insanely common, or maybe its just my luck.

Sounds like I will need to obtain a bit more gear for my GLD retainer to have a chance. Seems pretty sillyto lock a vanity item behind both an RNG and an indirect gear grind. I'm not saying they should be handed out like candy, but as prizes at gold saucer or something, they would at least be available to everyone in some fashion or another

I get pastel dyes almost as often as fish from my retainer. Pure white and jet black not so often, but I've still gotten my fair share of them.

I'm not sure if pastel dyes are truly "rare" or if I'm just lucky.

The trouble is, my spare GLD gear my retainer uses is apparently a couple ilvls below the threshhold. I bet I'm far from alone in that.

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Originally Posted by IceWing

I get the "rare" dyes around every 1/3rd venture i send my retainers out on, insanely common, or maybe its just my luck.

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Pure luck. In about 50 ventures I've gotten 4x dye. (1x silver, 2x gold, 1x black)

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Originally Posted by Selli

The metallic colors are the most common, followed by black/white, and then the pastels.

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Really?? I've gotten a butt-load of all four pastels, one each of the black and white, and one silver. (Sent out every hour I'm awake for the past three months) The retainers just don't want to give us colors we like, I guess...Pfft. I just need one pot of jet black, Keytah...come on. :(

My retainer is ilvl 96 or something like that and brings them back pretty much constantly. I get a least one set of dye a day, oftentimes more, so for ilvl 90 and above I would say they aren't that rare.

The gear grind is a bit annoying, but it shouldn't be a huge issue really--just go run through syrcus tower a few times, pick up all the gear that no one wants, and with the soldiery you get, buy some of the weathered accessories, tada done. Another thing is, at least as far as I have seen, it doesn't matter what gear your retainer is actually wearing for quick ventures, so long as it is above ilvl 90--so you don't have to intentionally grind out just gladiator gear. Anything that can be worn by all DoW would also work.

I feel like it's fine to restrict the dyes to higher level retainer rewards. If they were available through multiple means, they wouldn't really be considered rare or anything special.

Gear is kind of easy to obtain as long as you arent trying to gear multiple classes. Just equip whatever you can find in dungeons and buy more via soldiery.
It is much harder (time extensive) to gear up gathering retainers tho.

It's too bad you're not on my server or I'd offer my services. :D My retainer is i107 and brings me dye all the time. Right now on my retainer I have:
14 Metallic Gold
20 Metallic Silver
7 Pastel Purple
5 Pastel Blue
8 Pastel Green
8 Pastel Pink
11 Jet Black
14 Pure White

Maybe I'm just uber lucky on the RNG front (sometimes I think I am...), but my retainers are constantly bringing me back the rare dyes. They're both over i110 atm though, one is CNJ the other is ACN.
And atm, though I use the pastels and white/black dyes quite often, I have:
28 Pure white
21 Jet Black
18 Pastel Pink
22 Pastel Blue
19 Pastel Purple
60 Silver
57 Gold
(I throw away my Pastel green, I don't really care for that color though, but thankfully I don't see it as much as the other dyes.)

It could be that both my retainers ilvl's are so high that I see such a high frequency of these dyes ionno, but I appreciate them since I constantly use them all but the gold and silver quite often.

I want black and white dye, but I get pastels and metallics much more commonly. They've all proven fairly rare for me, though. I used several hundred ventures before I saw my first, and I tend to go through gaps of 50~75 before I see another. My retainers have been anything from i90 to i115+ through this process, and I haven't noticed any correlation between that and dye frequency.

My ilvl 100 retainer just brought me some pink pastel dye today.

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Originally Posted by Selli

The metallic colors are the most common, followed by black/white, and then the pastels.

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Your mileage may vary. Personally I've got tons of the Pastels, only gotten like 7 or so Black, 2 White, and a lot of Metallics. The higher your retainer's ilvl(100+, DoW/M) or more gathering(400+ DoL) the better chances you have. I'm able to get the (current) top-tier for my two Tank retainers, but about 3 or so from top for my DoL.

Since there is LOTS of Soldiery Tomestones about - just gear your retainers in the gears from Rev. Toll and send them out on quick ventures.

You might not get the colours you want for a little while but you'll get some dyes ^^

Also you will find high iLvL accessories are wearable by any class - use this to your advantage when gearing retainers that are not jobs you usually play (My DRG retainer often wears WHM and SMN gear to bump their iLvL to new heights)

My ilvl 112 retainer sucks at bringing me dyes. I'm getting really frustrated, the whole reason I leveled her up was to get metallic silver dye. It's been about a month, hundreds of ventures, and she's only brought me silver once. Black once, gold twice, white twice. Pastels are slightly more common, they don't seem to be particularly rare. But honestly it's really annoying me. I've done all the work, send her on a dozen quick ventures a day, and she bring me crap. It's just dye, there should be a way to get them that isn't 99% impossible.

Lately I only get Pastel colour than the other.

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Originally Posted by Keydah

Really?? I've gotten a butt-load of all four pastels, one each of the black and white, and one silver. (Sent out every hour I'm awake for the past three months) The retainers just don't want to give us colors we like, I guess...Pfft. I just need one pot of jet black, Keytah...come on. :(

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I've gotten 6 blue and 4 green/purple and 2 pink. I have 50 silvers/golds and about 20 blacks/whites.

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

Your mileage may vary. Personally I've got tons of the Pastels, only gotten like 7 or so Black, 2 White, and a lot of Metallics. The higher your retainer's ilvl(100+, DoW/M) or more gathering(400+ DoL) the better chances you have. I'm able to get the (current) top-tier for my two Tank retainers, but about 3 or so from top for my DoL.

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I was just going off personal experience. I dunno what everyone else's retainers do. And both of mine are DoM classes so I dunno anything about the gathering ones.