Feast of Famine - Condition Verification

I recently came back to this game, and one of the first things I noticed (Much to my dismay) was a new fisher quest. Despite my better judgement, I decided I just had to complete Feast of Famine, and made it a priority, so much so that my Fishing Rod was my first Lucis get (I should have gone for GSM or Miner first).

I am, however, having some problems finishing this quest. I've spent well over 8 hours fishing for the required fish, and I have so far gotten four bites (3 Neptos [One Get] and 1 Namitaro [Escaped]). I have been unable to complete even a single Canavan chain, and I haven't even seen a Clear>Blizzard in Coerthas.

Before I continued, I just wanted to verify that the information I'm working on is accurate, and that its just RNG dicking with me, not a Google-Fu error on my part.

Here's my Gear/Stats (Maxed, as far as I know):
http://i.imgur.com/d2wRc2C.png

And here's the collected data I've been working on:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

The above sheet is open to edits. Please feel free to correct it.

So, is the information I'm working on accurate, or have I been burning time? I'm also open to any suggestions.


Thank you!

UPDATE: Up to Five bites, losing another Namitaro.

Also, I did have to eat food to get the Nepto, and I'm eating it for the Shonisaurus (HQ Spinach Quiche, which is probably a bit much, but I have a bunch of it so why not).

Some specific questions:

Am I using the best bait for the fishes?
Can I fish up a mooch chain before a weather/time condition, and sit on it until those conditions are met, or is the cast results tallied upon getting the fish, not when you recast?

RNG.

Though I'm pretty sure to catch HQ Mahar for Shonisaurus you need at least 320 perception. And Nepto with gathering 403, but if you have caught it with 401 without food/fc buffs, I guess that's it then?

I'm gonna use this thread so I don't need to make one. Can anyone explain me how the weather transition works? Do we need to fish the mooching fish on the first weather and then mooch it when it moves to the transitioned weather or we simple need that weather combo and fish it on the last weather?

Only need weather combo and fish it on the last weather. You can prepare your mooch before the combo happened, then start fishing the moment the weather changed.

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Originally Posted by Laelius

I'm gonna use this thread so I don't need to make one. Can anyone explain me how the weather transition works? Do we need to fish the mooching fish on the first weather and then mooch it when it moves to the transitioned weather or we simple need that weather combo and fish it on the last weather?

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You fish on the second weather pattern. So, for example, a Mahar (Which is mooched to get a Shonisaurus) can only be caught during a Blizzard, but only if that Blizzard was preceded by clear weather.

The first weather pattern is useless to you, besides the fact that it has to be there.

Thanks alot for the quick replys :) Bombast I left a helpful site on your sheet hope it helps :P

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Am I using the best bait for the fishes?
Can I fish up a mooch chain before a weather/time condition, and sit on it until those conditions are met, or is the cast results tallied upon getting the fish, not when you recast?

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As to the best bait, look up the fishing hole on this site:

http://na.ff14angler.com/

I use this site for the fish availability:

http://ffxivfisher.appspot.com/?

You can hold a mooch until your target fish is available.

This was all taken from xivdb.com someone posted up some nice info on there regarding fishing these fish up.

Endoceras
Western La Noscea- Isles of Umbra Southshore
Prerequisite- **Weather must transition from Clear or Fair into Overcast, Wind or Fog**
Gathering- 397+
Weather- Overcast, Wind or Fog
Time- 8:00pm-4:00am
Bait- Spoon Worm > Fullmoon Sardine (Mooch)

Namitaro
South Shroud- Urth's Gift
Prerequisite- **Must fish a Giant Takitaro to obtain Fisher's Intuition for 1 minute**
Gathering- 397+
Weather- Thunder or Thunderstorms
Time- Any
Bait- Topwater Frog while Fisher's Intuition is active
Note: Use Glowworms for the Giant Takitaro then switch to Topwater Frog and be quick about it, you only get 2~ casts.

Helicoprion
Southern Thanalan- Sagolii Desert
Prerequisite- **Weather must transition from Fog into Heatwave**
Gathering- 397+
Weather- Heatwave
Time- 8:00am-8:00pm
Bait- Sand Leech > Storm Rider (Mooch)
NOTE: Best possible window to catch it is with a 8am-4pm heatwave following Fog. The Fog into Heatwave during daytime is uncommon and sometimes spread out days apart. Overcast into Heatwave might also work but have never seen Overcast->Heatwave during daytime.


Shonisaurus
Coerthas Central Highlands- Witchdrop
Prerequisite- **Weather must transition from Clear or Fair into Blizzard**
Gathering- 381+
Weather- Blizzard
Time- Any
Bait- Hoverworm > Cloud Cutter (Mooch) > Mahar (Mooch)
NOTE: Recommend 320+ Perception(possible requirement). Mahar seems to have a very low chance to come out in HQ.

Kuno The Killer
Mor Dhona- The North Shards
Prerequisite- **Must fish a Canavan to obtain Fisher's Intuition for 23 minutes**
Gathering- 397+
Weather- Gloom
Time- 9:00am-12:00am
Bait- Honey Worm > Silverfish/Goldfish (Mooch) > Assassin Betta (Mooch) while Fisher's Intuition is active
NOTE: Possible to catch in any weather as long as Fisher's Intuition buff is still active. Prerequisite is Gloom only.

Nepto Dragon
Eastern La Noscea- Rhotano Sea (Sterncastle)
Prerequisite- **Must fish 3 Little Thalaos to obtain Fisher's Intuition for 5 minutes**
Gathering- 403+
Weather- Rain or Showers
Time- Any
Bait- Northern Krill while Fisher's Intuition is active

I have actually lost count of the number of Namitaros I've lost at 425 gathering. It's honestly becoming heartbreaking at this point. Must be well into the 50s or 60s now.

They just won't. Stay. Hooked.

EDIT: Finally caught the jerk, then went out and got Shonisaurus on my very first try. Llymlaen truly is a spiteful deity.

Your info seems to be correct that you are using. These fish are an abosolute pain to catch sometimes, some having a very high escape rate, some having an intuition buff that's very difficult to get as well. I think i had to go through 8 thunderstorms/thunder weathers to get the South Shroud fish, and am curently sitting at 15-20 window attempts at kuno the killer (last one for me to get). Perseverance is the key to get these fish. Best of luck to you :).

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Perseverance is the key to get these fish.

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This is the key takeaway, here. You are not likely to catch any of these fish on your first attempt. Or second. Or even tenth. You just need to keep trying until you get it.

For me, it helped to not have any expectations. I never sat down to fish, expecting to walk away with it before the window closed. Instead, I formed habits: Log on, check weather. If weather/time is favorable, go fish until unfavorable. The goal wasn't to catch anything in particular, just to fish during the open window. Eventually, the fish DID get caught.

I was admittedly lucky when it came to Kuno and Nepto; caught the former on my third session trying, and the latter on my FIRST. Shion and Nami, though, those took me forever.

Hmmmm hq storm riders do not exist(atleast to me I sooo rarly get them at that hole)... but got kuno the first time I was there still exploring all the holes(yup I still have unknown ones). No luck on takitaro though and that was like a 4-5 weather windows in a row.