dat Final Fantasy XV demo~

I know this isn't the forum to post about another game, namely Final Fantasy XV on a Final Fantasy XIV forum. But with the release of the Final Fantasy XV demo, I'm really itching to give some feedback on my gameplay experience since it kind of reminded me of the mistakes Final Fantasy XIV 1.0 did. High quality animations that lock you into place and cant dodge or defend, some rendering issues and frame rate slow downs, and my Playstation 4 nearly over heating. But despite the problems with the game, it also does a lot of good things ! I saw that Ramuh summon and I was like, "Final Fantasy has restored its glory o.o"

But in light of it all, I think the Demo shows very well the direction the game is going, and it looks great. But I can also see all the mistakes they're doing and I get that FFXIV 1.0 flash back memories going through my mind like a war veteran with bad PTSD. Is there any where I can leave feedback for Final Fantasy XV ? :O I want to help make it an even better game. And I'm sure those of you that played it want to too. Anyways, I'll probably get flamed or the thread gets deleted or whatever, but I figured it was worth a shot.

Targeting system is garbage. :<

Yeah, especially when trying to target the smaller, faster moving dog mobs. The camera is whirling all over the place :(

I got used to it but I agree, the combat is fun but needs some work.

On a related note aint we all glad the ramuh we fight in xiv isn't the same one as the summon in xv x_X

Lol ! if Ramuh was like the one in XV, no one would be able to beat it :O

Every time I hear someone say actions locking you place and preventing you from dodging is something that needs to be changed, I just sigh. Try to swing a sword and then dodge roll or side step before you regain your balance. It isn't possible. It is something that I wish they kept from 1.0 as it makes for a realistic challenge. Of course, nowadays gamers just want to maximize their damage by constantly swinging rather than maximizing their damage by attacking at the right times.

There's a video of Titan on youtube. (I've only seen a screenshot.)

This thread is likely to get locked or deleted but too want to leave some feedback somewhere.

All in all I found the demo to be a VERY positive experience. The world is large and beautiful, the characters are fun and likable, the combat is intense, and nods to older FF games are very welcome. But to try and keep this to the point I'm just going to give feedback that I feel is most important.

-The camera feels "heavy". It moves sluggishly and never quite seems to focus on what you want it to. It doesn't help that I'd like it to be zoomed out just a bit more. But the camera becomes a real problem in combat.

-The lock on is really bad. The camera doesn't follow what you're trying to attack and it falls off for apparently no reason.

-The auto target is also problematic. I often found myself turning around to stab the air even though there was an enemy right in front of me.

-When you doge or use skills it should cancel out of whatever else you're doing. It's frustrating to press a skill and have to wait for Noct to swing his sword a few more times before it goes off.

-Companion AI could still use some work. Prompto is a ranged character but he's contently running into the mist of the fray to melee things and getting himself killed. Also, I love Ignis, he was always there for me and would often help attack whatever I was attacking. But there were times when he would jump in front of me so I couldn't hit my target anymore.

-Collision detection is a bit too strong, especially with your companions. They can become immovable road blocks if you get yourself into a tight corner and they don't move out of the way. Even in combat you can find yourself 'stuck' on one of your companions and unable to move for a few seconds.

These are all very, very minor gripes and I'm sure that most if not all of them are being worked on already. But I still wanted to have the opportunity to give some real feed back to the team. I'm very excited by the direction the game seems to be heading and I look forward with great anticipation to the release.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ryans

Every time I hear someone say actions locking you place and preventing you from dodging is something that needs to be changed, I just sigh. Try to swing a sword and then dodge roll or side step before you regain your balance. It isn't possible. It is something that I wish they kept from 1.0 as it makes for a realistic challenge. Of course, nowadays gamers just want to maximize their damage by constantly swinging rather than maximizing their damage by attacking at the right times.

---

This comment leads me to believe you've never held a sword or done any sort of martial arts training.

I've yet to use my code and download the game though from what I hear (combat etc.)...does it play very similarly to Type 0? Looks like it when they make their weapons appear/disappear.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Recaldy

I've yet to use my code and download the game though from what I hear (combat etc.)...does it play very similarly to Type 0? Looks like it when they make their weapons appear/disappear.

---

No I don't feel like it plays like type-0.

I mean, they are "somewhat" similar as in you have a couple techniques, and your main attacks is just Square, but type-0 is a lot more fast paced and switching between characters mid-combat even furthers itself from xv in terms of gameplay.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ryans

Every time I hear someone say actions locking you place and preventing you from dodging is something that needs to be changed, I just sigh. Try to swing a sword and then dodge roll or side step before you regain your balance. It isn't possible. It is something that I wish they kept from 1.0 as it makes for a realistic challenge. Of course, nowadays gamers just want to maximize their damage by constantly swinging rather than maximizing their damage by attacking at the right times.

---

Games aren't necessarily supposed to adhere to everything that happens irl. Things are compromised for gameplay purposes, or for balance. Type-0 actually does a great job at this, allowing you multiple defensive options (dodge/block/cure) and your chances for using those 3 vary from fight to fight, character to character. Noctis just feels really clunky and doesn't do much damage this early on, so you're just swinging around like a mad man trying to get a hit in.

The XV demo was actually a weird showcase of Noctis' limitations - IE the dog enemies that were all over the place were highly mobile, your only real option outside of Jump was to Warp, which costs substantial MP when you also need to use FT/Tempest/etc depending on the situation. Noctis basically eats MP like there's no tomorrow, it's sort of insane how much you can go through in one enemy encounter (see: Goblin Cave of Hell). You also never actually need to dodge in the entire demo, you can just use Drain Blade and Tempest for pretty much everything. Parrying is also super weirdly timed, I couldn't figure out when the game wanted me to actually do it. That stuff aside, the combat was actually okay. The weapon changing thing was interesting but nothing actually felt like it was making a difference - I stuck the Great Sword on back attack because it was too clunky to hit anything with. The lances were basically all I used on startup attacks only because they seemed to have longer reach/quicker animation - hopefully there's more variance in the full game or I just didn't catch what they did different in the demo.

Anyway, it's definitely... a demo. Showcased a lot of things, very rough around the edges but I think most of that will get cleaned up. Ramuh was insane, the Behemoth was insane, and Cidney was gr8. Think everyone got out of it what they were supposed to get out of it - hype.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Slappah

No I don't feel like it plays like type-0.

---

Type-0 has definitely been cleaned up way more, we're looking at bare bones XV atm so there's not a lot to go on. T0 has weak points, varying magic, varying defensive options, switching between characters to optimize the situation, optimizing team comps, etc. etc. There'll definitely be a lot more versatility in the full game, so it's really hard to say how similar they are atm.