Pharos Sirius' Zu

I've recently started both tanking and running dungeons for my Monks Zodiac drops, but have hit a situation in Pharos Sirius on the last few runs.

It's had been a while since I last ran it, but I'm certain the tactic has long been settled as "kill 1 egg each hatch" to enrage her without making her go murderous and reduce the number of chicks to deal with.

But the last few runs I've had 1 dps go insane and wipeout as many eggs as possible in the first few seconds of the fight, making the Zu go mad and causing a couple of wipes (I got a handle on it by the fourth run and din't wipe on round 1).

Every time I've asked what they're doing, and if this is some tactic I don't know of and don't understand, but they have never said anything, and even if other party members do say anything, they have no idea what the mental dps was doing. Then the dps did it AGAIN if we had wiped.

So my question is, am I missing something, or have I just had several consecutive runs with nutcases? I'd really like to know what I'm missing if this is some new tactic (And what the point is). Otherwise I'm going to start voting to kick these people if they wipe us without responding.

None of these runs have had a newcomer bonus.

I think you've had runs with nutcases, I haven't seen or heard of anything on the lines of killing all eggs. Hell, there's no point since it's easy to just bumrush the Zu and any adds spawned now.

better to just kill them after they spawn and completely ignore eggs

Outright ignore adds if your ilvl is high enough, or as tank just scoop up the adds with AoE and turn back to Zu.

Never touch eggs. Eggs are the Ultros & Typhon of dungeon bosses. New people never get the mechanic right no matter how meticulously detailed your explanation is. Better to just give them a free pass on it.

I just got the crazies then. Good to know :)

You can kill all the eggs and heal through the enrage too..
lol

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Originally Posted by aisustrong

better to just kill them after they spawn and completely ignore eggs

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The buff that Zu gets is really dumb. Better to just DPS all spawns down.

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Originally Posted by Staris

You can kill all the eggs and heal through the enrage too..
lol

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She hits the target with an AOE stun. Which person are you suggesting to attack eggs? The only member of the party who can tank the dive from Zu with the stun effect is the tank.

with sufficient gearing you can ignore the adds completely and DPS burn the boss. The adds don't hit hard at all and really the only damage threat is from their ranged attack (which they stop doing after a few seconds). A healer can actually heal-tank all of the adds while the Zu is able to be damaged if the healer is overgeared. Once the Zu takes to the air you can kill some of the adds to alleviate the damage. Might as well since you can't attack the Zu anyway at that point.

I actually have no idea how are you supposed to legitimately do the Zu fight. I always just burn the Zu down unless someone tells me to do something different.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

I actually have no idea how are you supposed to legitimately do the Zu fight. I always just burn the Zu down unless someone tells me to do something different.

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You're "supposed" to pick off the eggs at a specific pace to control the flow of adds. One egg = 8 stacks on Zu, and if she gets 10+ she'll enrage and do a sick AoE. One stack degrades every tic, so one egg every 20s keeps things under control.

When pharos was first released i did zu on my 1st run the intended way ( dealing with adds etc)
I then was like wait i managed to burn 1st boss ( ignoring ALL adds) so y not zu.
So i treated it like T2 enraged and bam zu dead.
I had around 5k hp i think as a whm so tht allowed me to cheese pharos since release :3
Ppl thought i was crazy but i got a lot of commends ^^
Also burned siren so she wouldn't even go into phase 2 lol

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

When pharos was first released i did zu on my 1st run the intended way ( dealing with adds etc)
I then was like wait i managed to burn 1st boss ( ignoring ALL adds) so y not zu.
So i treated it like T2 enraged and bam zu dead.
I had around 5k hp i think as a whm so tht allowed me to cheese pharos since release :3
Ppl thought i was crazy but i got a lot of commends ^^
Also burned siren so she wouldn't even go into phase 2 lol

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how do you plan on burning siren when the team is bound?
unless you just stack in the middle and don't dodge the dive, and none of you move so you don't have to turn

What I want to know is the 'proper' way to do the third boss.

...like, everyone is able to burn him in two seconds but there must have been a strategy at some point right?

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

What I want to know is the 'proper' way to do the third boss.

...like, everyone is able to burn him in two seconds but there must have been a strategy at some point right?

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There is none. If your dps isn't strong enough, kill the few adds or tank them and keep hitting the boss. I actually ask myself what is the point of that one too.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

What I want to know is the 'proper' way to do the third boss.

...like, everyone is able to burn him in two seconds but there must have been a strategy at some point right?

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Yah as Blue mentioned there was none. It was always a pure DPS check / Burn. I remember the first run (and all early runs), even back then, we just burned down the Boss ASAP. If you started getting overwhelmed with Adds, just kill off a few, and continue on.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

What I want to know is the 'proper' way to do the third boss.

...like, everyone is able to burn him in two seconds but there must have been a strategy at some point right?

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The major mechanic was the tank stunning the charm, the healer had to top of the health of the player with the debuff to erase it, and everyone had to run to the middle for some move that was raid wide to avoid it(been awhile). Besides Animus Books, ppl still do this? Is there a certain drop im forgetting?

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

The major mechanic was the tank stunning the charm, the healer had to top of the health of the player with the debuff to erase it, and everyone had to run to the middle for some move that was raid wide to avoid it(been awhile). Besides Animus Books, ppl still do this? Is there a certain drop im forgetting?

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That's the fourth/final boss. The third one dies in about 30 seconds or less.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

The major mechanic was the tank stunning the charm, the healer had to top of the health of the player with the debuff to erase it, and everyone had to run to the middle for some move that was raid wide to avoid it(been awhile). Besides Animus Books, ppl still do this? Is there a certain drop im forgetting?

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There's a Zodiac drop in there as well as a TT card. There's also high level roulette.

Honestly, I still silence/stun Lunatic Voice. It's just ingrained into me. xD

I've accidentally killed a few eggs as a BLM with LB. I wanted to hit all the dang baby birdies smacking the healer and finish off the Zu. But I wasn't paying attention to the edges of the AoE and I over estimated its damage (we were at about 10%). My party was not very happy with me despite my relentless apologies and I don't think they forgave me either 'cause I got no commendations, LOL.

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Originally Posted by Selli

I've accidentally killed a few eggs as a BLM with LB. I wanted to hit all the dang baby birdies smacking the healer and finish off the Zu. But I wasn't paying attention to the edges of the AoE and I over estimated its damage (we were at about 10%). My party was not very happy with me despite my relentless apologies and I don't think they forgave me either 'cause I got no commendations, LOL.

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clearly you didnt nuke zu hard enough

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Originally Posted by aisustrong

clearly you didnt nuke zu hard enough

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I need to call upon bigger stars, apparently. :c I wanted giant rocks and all I got was pebbles!

Went as SCH in Pharos and had a DRG last night just went nuts on the eggs right when we started. He must have gotten almost half of the room before he really got the keyboard rage from the tank and I.

That enrage was serious, so fast. Had to blow through stacks on soil and lustrate faster than I ever had before and swift-changed to Eos to prevent the wipe. I hope I never have to do that again, probably would have been easier to wipe and re-do but you always want to salvage the situation if you can. :eek:

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Originally Posted by aisustrong

how do you plan on burning siren when the team is bound?
unless you just stack in the middle and don't dodge the dive, and none of you move so you don't have to turn

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The team only kills the floor zombies if someone gets caught, siren won't progress phases if u don't kill the adds. 1 medica 2 will grab most adds if not all.
They move pretty slow so u can sprint ahead to get a cast or 2 off.

Pharos Sirius was amazing back when I was tanking. It was actually difficult with mechanics that were different enough from what you've fought so far to have to think about them. I was very saddened when I came back to this game and the dungeon just became so underwhelming because of being over-geared for it.

*Resurrection*

Curiously, I had the exact same thing again yesterday (Or the day before. I forget), this time after I'd spent 2 minutes telling them (both healer and archer were newbies) exactly how the boss is supposed to be done, and the alternative method we couldn't do (Burn, just didn't have the gear).

She got the boot instantaneously after the wipe, I just couldn't take that. Not after I'd just explained not to kill many eggs and why. The other guy, healer, did just fine and was also pretty gob smacked from what he said after. >_>

Either there are some crazy bots that understand I won't pull the boss until they replace their Ilvl 33 ring with the i60 I just cleared side rooms for them to get, or some real real dumb people that can't comprehend English beyond "equip the ring?". (I only have English ticked, and they didn't even try to use autotranslate.)

I. Just. want to know. WHY. Q_Q