Official GC Unbinding Petition

Dear Dev Team,
First off, I want to say that this game is absolutely amazing. One of the things I enjoy most is Frontlines. I would love to experience more of this but as many have stated, the queue times for Primal amongst others have been 30-60 minutes even during peak hours sometimes. We would love to experience more of Frontlines if possible. Many people would play more Frontlines if the queue times were shorter (and ironically, if they did play, the queue times would be shorter anyways.)
I noticed that in 3.0 there are no plans to remove the Grand Company binding for queue selection. I kindly ask you to reconsider this decision.
I would like to see how many people on the English Forums are in agreement with this petition. All we would like, is to have more Frontlines :)
Thank you!

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So, I've noticed that very few people are interested in this idea after a few days. I hope that the devs can do something to increase interest in Frontlines whether it be better rewards or something. For those who cannot play during peak hours, one can go hours without seeing a queue pop. Thanks for the replies and opinions. Maybe there are better ideas for how to reduce queue times, keep the ideas coming please!

I agree with removing GC restrictions. I don't have time for 30min queues. I used to do frontlines several times a week but I've done maybe 1 since GS came out and the queues died.

Based on this survey I did on the forums, it shows players want to get rid of the GC restriction by a 2-1 ratio. It was 24 votes to 12, not counting my vote which I can't cast via the like button, making it 25 to 12. In other words, two players out of three don't like the restriction, and one player out of three does. I'm guessing in more cases than not, it's whoever is in the dominant GC for their datacenter that likes it, since they benefit from being aligned with more win-oriented players, whereas being aligned with the two 'lose-more-than-win' GC's is demoralizing, and moving from one GC to another means being stripped of the accumulated rewards until earning back the PVP rank. That's a lot of time in queue just to have enough games played to get a high rank. It's interesting that ratio of people wanting to get rid of the GC restriction is (2-1), each server would have 2 non-dominant GC's and one dominant one which the GC restriction favors from the perspective of players who aren't In It For The Soldiery Bruh.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sed-PVP-queues

I could really enjoy this... I once did... but I don't enjoy games where the odds are stacked against me & in favor of my opponents, and where I have to wait a long time for a smaller chance to win.

I 110% agree op however the lack of ppl that actually visit the forum will sign it we need this done once and for all
I suggest shouts in game to draw attention to this issue and really get this train going
i will do this tonight and hopefully get this thread exploding

I DISAGREE! Maelstrom4Life! Till Sea Swallows All!

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

I DISAGREE! Maelstrom4Life! Till Sea Swallows All!

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I think you meant to say Flames for life

Indeed. Let those who oppose GC que open as long as people who choose to stick to their GC can do it. Dont want to team up with those Adders and Flames, ever.

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Originally Posted by Pequenisimo

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There are a lot of people who think this will be a good idea, hell we had a thread like this a few months back that had over 50 likes but as usual with anything important regarding pvp, silence was the response. The one i mentioned is far from being the only one either, there's been threads upon threads on this and just nothing comes back in response to this issue.

A LOT of people who had interest in pvp in this game have been phasing out over time because you just see mistake after mistake, interest is probably the lowest it has been for a while so if you don't get a lot of responses that's why (not just you, the whole subforum is quite dead compared to how it was in the past), they need to realize soon that when dealing with PvP, that fluid communication with the community is a must.

I support this. Faster Frontline queues would be good for everyone, no matter which GC they're from. They could give us the option to sign up for either just our GC, or whichever GC is currently outnumbered.

While we're at it, I'd really like them to remove the restrictions on wearing GC gear after switching to a different GC. What's the point of getting nice stuff, like glamour pieces or bardings, if you can't use it anymore once you switch?

Is there actually an official Dev response to removing the GC requirement? People keep referencing one but I haven't seen anything specific.

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Originally Posted by Red_Wolf

Is there actually an official Dev response to removing the GC requirement? People keep referencing one but I haven't seen anything specific.

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http://gamerescape.com/2015/03/09/pa...naoki-yoshida/:

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PvP
At launch of Heavensward, we will have a new Frontline battle, with a new map and new rules. It will continue to be Grand Company based, but while before each Grand Company would start at a select location and the map, in Heavensward we will see a randomized starting location which will impact play. Armor rewards associated with Frontlines will also be updated. After that point they will update the Wolves Den.

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From the Pax east interview that gamerscape did. All of my sadness :/

Though grand company based could mean anything, it doesn't have to mean they keeping GC restrictions so much as the names themselves. Then again this feels more like wishful thinking on my part.

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Originally Posted by Red_Wolf

Is there actually an official Dev response to removing the GC requirement? People keep referencing one but I haven't seen anything specific.

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Of course there isn't a real answer from them. They continue appeasing the carebears by keeping the GC stuff as is because of 'lore and immersion' instead of listening to the people who actually play the PvP content. They don't give a dog sh*t about us (PvP community). Excuse my tone, I'm just so over this.

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Originally Posted by Deelo

Of course there isn't a real answer from them. They continue appeasing the carebears by keeping the GC stuff as is because of 'lore and immersion' instead of listening to the people who actually play the PvP content. They don't give a dog sh*t about us (PvP community). Excuse my tone, I'm just so over this.

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Did you not see the post RIGHT ABOVE your post?!?!?!

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Originally Posted by Cidolfas86

Though grand company based could mean anything, it doesn't have to mean they keeping GC restrictions so much as the names themselves. Then again this feels more like wishful thinking on my part.

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I am also praying this is a translation issue. Until now every FL's map have been symetrical. I don't see how the starting position of the entire GC would affect anything at all. Please mean "but while before each player in a Grand Company would start at a select location and the map, in Heavensward we will see a randomized starting location which will impact play"

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Originally Posted by Red_Wolf

I am also praying this is a translation issue. Until now every FL's map have been symetrical. I don't see how the starting position of the entire GC would affect anything at all. Please mean "but while before each player in a Grand Company would start at a select location and the map, in Heavensward we will see a randomized starting location which will impact play"

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I'm hoping so as well, but this is all the info thats available to go on at the moment since it seems like the PvP community in this game is a neglected red headed step child. I'm honestly surprized we got this much info.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Did you not see the post RIGHT ABOVE your post?!?!?!

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Saying they're going to keep it is not responding to the concerns, it's not even acknowledging it as an issue which a lot of the community rightfully thinks it is.

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Originally Posted by Pibz

Saying they're going to keep it is not responding to the concerns, it's not even acknowledging it as an issue which a lot of the community rightfully thinks it is.

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Correction, The community you refer to is filled with solo loners, as seen in a lot of previous threads similar to this, not for ppl who have made pvp friends in server and abroad and have no problem finding premade parties within their GC. It's implemented, work with it and stop complaining to change something the Dev's put a lot of time and story behind.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Correction, The community you refer to is filled with solo loners, as seen in a lot of previous threads similar to this, not for ppl who have made pvp friends in server and abroad and have no problem finding premade parties within their GC. It's implemented, work with it and stop complaining to change something the Dev's put a lot of time and story behind.

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ROFL, "put a lot of time and story behind".
Thanks, haven't had a laugh this big from this forums in a while.

And yes let's all accept any and all kinds of crap devs come up with, that's how've been getting a better game right?! We should've all just accepted 1.0 way back when cause the devs "put a lot of time and story behind".
Because fighting in "civilized warfare"(k then) for a grand company which you can join and leave every 2 weeks(talk about allegiance) is so immersive and well put together. Doesn't matter and is as irrelevant as it gets, know why? PvP doesn't need a big story nor lore.. its PVP.

If you want to discuss something put some actual points against other people's points instead of just "filled with solo loners" kind of crap.

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Correction, The community you refer to is filled with solo loners, as seen in a lot of previous threads similar to this, not for ppl who have made pvp friends in server and abroad and have no problem finding premade parties within their GC.

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You shouldn't correct people with your opinion.

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Originally Posted by zeopower6

The queues were HORRID tonight. Got a pop we missed as a premade and then nothing for 2 hours.

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This is was posted just yesterday. Your 15 minute Q's are an exaggeration. Your pre-made theory goes against my own experience in addition to countless posts. Plus, no one should be expected to wait 30+ minutes for anything just because they chose to solo Q.

Do you even PvP? According to the standings you didn't even do 10 matches last week. Perhaps you should listen instead of talking down to people.

I think our best bet for getting a direct answer here will to be through Reddit. At both of the big US events Yoshi P attended this year, Pax East and Fanfest, the reddit mods were granted an interview and they asked questions from users.

Here's a link from the PAX East interview: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ew_with_naoki/

Yoshi P does listen to questions asked directly to him, you might remember the video from London Fanfest of a fan asking about the Spriggan hat that she had done a lot of treasure maps looking to find. He said that because she had done so many maps they would add it as a map reward in a future patch. Likewise, a question about a coil mount led to the ADS mount.

Honestly our best bet here is the next time the reddit mods ask for questions for the next event, we have someone articulately ask the question and we all upvote/comment/make sure it gets a lot of attention.

I love how everyone always wants a frontlines with no GC requirement. It's simple, this should be about making 8-person Wolves' Den. Then subsequently upping the Wolves' Den rewards to be equal to Frontlines and issuing a roulette only queue system for PvP so you had 4-team/8 team Wolves' Den or Secure /Slaughter Frontlines. This is what PvP should be. None of this open world PvP...too much room for trolls...

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Originally Posted by Miyu20

I love how everyone always wants a frontlines with no GC requirement. It's simple, this should be about making 8-person Wolves' Den. Then subsequently upping the Wolves' Den rewards to be equal to Frontlines and issuing a roulette only queue system for PvP so you had 4-team/8 team Wolves' Den or Secure /Slaughter Frontlines. This is what PvP should be. None of this open world PvP...too much room for trolls...

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Roulette-only queue system wouldn't work currently because the current PvP roulette doesn't allow parties. It's a solo Q only. Which is another gripe of mine... If they opened up the roulette to small parties I think it would help some of these issues and get more Secure matches going.

Also, Arena and battlegrounds are two separate animals. Not everyone wants to do a straight deathmatch. People like me prefer the strategy an objective-based PvP instance provides.

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Originally Posted by Red_Wolf

Roulette-only queue system wouldn't work currently because the current PvP roulette doesn't allow parties. It's a solo Q only. Which is another gripe of mine... If they opened up the roulette to small parties I think it would help some of these issues and get more Secure matches going.

Also, Arena and battlegrounds are two separate animals. Not everyone wants to do a straight deathmatch. People like me prefer the strategy an objective-based PvP instance provides.

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This is true, not that I don't like the idea of 8vs8 wolves den cause that I actually sounds pretty hot. But I've always prefered pvp game modes that made players do something more then ZERG, ZERG, ZERG. I had that at one point, sort of anyway, when old frontlines (secure) was the main pvp mode, but then here we are today and well.....yeah :/

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Originally Posted by Miyu20

I love how everyone always wants a frontlines with no GC requirement. It's simple, this should be about making 8-person Wolves' Den. Then subsequently upping the Wolves' Den rewards to be equal to Frontlines and issuing a roulette only queue system for PvP so you had 4-team/8 team Wolves' Den or Secure /Slaughter Frontlines. This is what PvP should be. None of this open world PvP...too much room for trolls...

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Yeah I always see things like "PvP is dead remove GC restriction"

Uh it's called wolves den.
I'd rather wolves den get made more popular, I find 4v4 a lot more fun then 72 players all in the same spot fighting monsters in MY PVP MODE

/agree with this very much

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Originally Posted by Slappah

Yeah I always see things like "PvP is dead remove GC restriction"

Uh it's called wolves den.
I'd rather wolves den get made more popular, I find 4v4 a lot more fun then 72 players all in the same spot fighting monsters in MY PVP MODE

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Rewards for Wolves Den aren't appealing enough at the moment. Coupled with horrid queues.. :(

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Originally Posted by zeopower6

Rewards for Wolves Den aren't appealing enough at the moment. Coupled with horrid queues.. :(

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I'm still off the opinion that allied seals should come from PvP as well Wolves den and frontline both. I mean its in the name already >.>. Allied Seals >>>> fighting with your allies. It works xD

Make it apart of the duty roulette and add another roulette for wolves den.

+1 for the roulette in wolves den.
This is the only way to get players back to it, because rewards are actually too low.

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Originally Posted by Blubbers

Yoshi P does listen to questions asked directly to him, you might remember the video from London Fanfest of a fan asking about the Spriggan hat that she had done a lot of treasure maps looking to find. He said that because she had done so many maps they would add it as a map reward in a future patch.

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Actually, if you watch again you will see you're incorrect. What happened when she asked was Yoshi looking confused then saying (paraphrased) "but it's already available". He assumed it was in the game as he'd told the developers to put it in. The reason it wasn't available was a *mistake* and the person asking for it simply bought the issue to his attention. It was then rectified.

The Spriggan Hat wasn't added because she asked for it, rather it was because she proved they had mistakenly left it out.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

Actually, if you watch again you will see you're incorrect. What happened when she asked was Yoshi looking confused then saying (paraphrased) "but it's already available". He assumed it was in the game as he'd told the developers to put it in. The reason it wasn't available was a *mistake* and the person asking for it simply bought the issue to his attention. It was then rectified.

The Spriggan Hat wasn't added because she asked for it, rather it was because she proved they had mistakenly left it out.

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He's still right about the ADS mount. I was at the vegas fan fest when someone had suggested it, they made jokes about how you would sit on an ads, and look at what we have now.

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Originally Posted by monochromicorn

He's still right about the ADS mount. I was at the vegas fan fest when someone had suggested it, they made jokes about how you would sit on an ads, and look at what we have now.

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Yes, about the ADS mount, not the hat, which is why I mentioned the hat and not the mount.