Oooh FF6 reference?

http://i.imgur.com/JUqg8r7.jpg

From the Heavensward trailer @ 6:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9OpI7Muvho

Yeah, and the music matches too.

*Fangasm* Eeee

Yeah, it would appear that "The Floating Continent" that's present in Heavensward isn't just going to share a name.

There's some theorizing going on that it'll be our next 24-man raid series.

Yeah. I believe it'll be our 24-man raid as well. The floor patterns as well as the structures shown are EVERY allag-like. The grey-ish floors + the blue neon all over the place give it away to be honest.

I wouldn't be surprised if they mix up the FF6 lore with Allag Lore. Allags had many Emperors and Floating Continent was raised into the sky by an Emperor and Kefka if I remember correctly.

Yoshida's has already stated in the past that the 24-man raid will not be taken from a previous FF game, and that he doesn't want to establish a precedent for "nostalgia raids" as the only 24-man content FFXIV has. But now we have this.

I'm thinking that this may be our next Praetorium, or at the very least our next Mor Dhona. But I have no idea how, yet, and by now it's safe to say that any time they drop speculation-bait like this the real answer is always something totally outside the information they've given us beforehand.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Yoshida's has already stated in the past that the 24-man raid will not be taken from a previous FF game, and that he doesn't want to establish a precedent for "nostalgia raids" as the only 24-man content FFXIV has. But now we have this.

I'm thinking that this may be our next Praetorium, or at the very least our next Mor Dhona. But I have no idea how, yet, and by now it's safe to say that any time they drop speculation-bait like this the real answer is always something totally outside the information they've given us beforehand.

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Looks at Crystal Tower. Then looks at Cloud of Darkness. Then looks at the ground. Then looks up... wtf Floating Continent.....

Are you sure he said that? Cause I'm just not feeling it.

Now I'm off to contain my excitement. Bad assery OTW.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...n-ffvi-ios.png

Think of it this way: if it's not the next CT, then it actually gets to be a meaningful part of the storyline. That should be a good thing, right?

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

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More atma weapons? Noooo! D:

:P

(And yes, I first played FFVI back when that boss was called Atma Weapon and not Ultima Weapon... Ah the nostalgia. *huggles his snes*)

Oh please, everyone knows that it'll be a quick 20 minute dungeon that you steamroll once, never to again return unless the roulette gods deem it so.

Machinist, Edgar, FFVI, Floating continent. All the pieces are there egdar armor for machinist incoming!

Yea, it's very FFVI to me. I wonder if it'll be related to the Empire though.

Oho god please tell me A: This is the 24 man raid and B: Kefka is going to be the final part broken into 4 boss fights.

To put into perspective; Imagine World of Darkness, but one arena, where four boss fights take place in a row instead of Area>Boss>Area>Boss. Imagine if when a boss was defeated you opened chests and zoned, into a "new" arena with the next Phase of the Tower, and the music progressed to the next tier. The entire Raid would be those four bosses. Of course the previous 2 Raids would be Kefka's tower and the cave below.

Tldr; 4 Tier Kefka boss is 24 man raid.

Yeah, I was imagining the same thing. Boss tower from the end of VI, with a lift or spiral walkway or whatnot leading you up to each new fight, then climbing the corpse of the fourth who's holding up the platform you fight Kefka on.

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Originally Posted by Limecat

Yeah, I was imagining the same thing. Boss tower from the end of VI, with a lift or spiral walkway or whatnot leading you up to each new fight, then climbing the corpse of the fourth who's holding up the platform you fight Kefka on.

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I don't remember much from FF3/6 other than the magitech, Gogo, Mog with his Big foot, Terra, the chainsaw and various other minor things. But now this is making me think the laugh at the end of Amdapor Keep Hard is related to Kefka.

Soken did say he was trying to figure out a way to fit Terra's Theme into the game...

Now all we need is that stupid clown. I'll be sure to macro, Sephiroth sends his regards in case we fight him.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

http://i.imgur.com/JUqg8r7.jpg

From the Heavensward trailer @ 6:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9OpI7Muvho

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Definitely sounds like a mixture of the Esper World and the Floating Continent music. Here's hoping... >.<

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Now all we need is that stupid clown. I'll be sure to macro, Sephiroth sends his regards in case we fight him.

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Kefka > Sephiroth

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

Kefka > Sephiroth

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Better have a mix of both :
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Originally Posted by Dyvid

Kefka > Sephiroth

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Depends how you look at it. Sephiroth is cooler, Kefka is funnier. Kefka became more powerful but did so by moving three statues which is stupid. Kefka died and that's it, Sephiroth already resurrected himself two times. Kefka is an insanely strong mage, Sephiroth is a master swordsman. Kefka caused the apocalypse, Sephiroth counted on the planet saving itself from the apocalypse and planned to merge with the lifestream. As Advent Children showed, he kinda succeeded. Kinda.
Both have strenths and weaknesses, I just preffer Sephiroth. Still, neither of them have anyting on the Emperor who conquered hell after dying.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Depends how you look at it. Sephiroth is cooler, Kefka is funnier. Kefka became more powerful but did so by moving three statues which is stupid. Kefka died and that's it, Sephiroth already resurrected himself two times. Kefka is an insanely strong mage, Sephiroth is a master swordsman. Kefka caused the apocalypse, Sephiroth counted on the planet saving itself from the apocalypse and planned to merge with the lifestream. As Advent Children showed, he kinda succeeded. Kinda.
Both have strenths and weaknesses, I just preffer Sephiroth. Still, neither of them have anyting on the Emperor who conquered hell after dying.

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Except that Sephiroth is just Jenova's puppet, making him only good looking while the mastermind is Jenova.

World of Darkness was awesome. But the next one should be the 4 elemental fiends and Chaos from Final Fantasy 1

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

World of Darkness was awesome. But the next one should be the 4 elemental fiends and Chaos from Final Fantasy 1

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We already have Kraken :D 3 more left!

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

Yeah, it would appear that "The Floating Continent" that's present in Heavensward isn't just going to share a name.

There's some theorizing going on that it'll be our next 24-man raid series.

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When CT isn't even finished by a long shot ?

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Originally Posted by Jinko

When CT isn't even finished by a long shot ?

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O.o what are you on about? World of Darkness is the third and final part of the Crystal Tower.

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

O.o what are you on about? World of Darkness is the third and final part of the Crystal Tower.

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I think they mean Eureka, seems that isn't apart of the CT Saga even though they said it has ended after World of Darkness.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Depends how you look at it. Sephiroth is cooler, Kefka is funnier. Kefka became more powerful but did so by moving three statues which is stupid. Kefka died and that's it, Sephiroth already resurrected himself two times. Kefka is an insanely strong mage, Sephiroth is a master swordsman. Kefka caused the apocalypse, Sephiroth counted on the planet saving itself from the apocalypse and planned to merge with the lifestream. As Advent Children showed, he kinda succeeded. Kinda.
Both have strenths and weaknesses, I just preffer Sephiroth. Still, neither of them have anyting on the Emperor who conquered hell after dying.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSbpZCVIUnw

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Originally Posted by lololink

Except that Sephiroth is just Jenova's puppet, making him only good looking while the mastermind is Jenova.

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A common missconception but not true. In fact it is the exact opposite. Sephiroth is manipulating the cells of the long dead Jenova.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

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An awesome technical achievement, but I don't think it work as well as a single individual song as One Winged Angel or The Extreme. Like I said, oppinions differ. I consider Kefka better in some aspects, music not being one of said aspects, but overall prefer Sephiroth over him. Still, Kefka would fit better into XIV than Sephiroth and I would welcome his appearance. He is a very good villain, but.....ehh I said it many times already. I'm sure you get the picture.

Kefka is the master villain he's evil for the sake of being evil. Sephiroth's just a big momma's boy and everything he does is for his dear mommy.

I'll take Kefka any day of the week as the bad guy of my video game.

Oh my god.

If this is true... If thats the truth... IF THATS TRUE.

OMG.

My inner childhood will be hit all over. My second Final Fantasy game that really had me shaking over Kefka. Just all I felt.

Just... oh my god.

The next 24 man has been stated to not be a nostalgia nod. That does not mean that the Floating Continent will not be a nostalgia nod. We are like looking at what is likely to be an 8 man dungeon.

Kefka's Tower will likely be saved for the expansion that takes us into the Empire proper.

Best example of Kefka as a murdering psychopath.
The ultimate showdown

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The ultimate showdown

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Man... Dissidia could have been so cool if it was a proper rpg and not a crummy fighting game =/

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Originally Posted by Balipu

A common missconception but not true. In fact it is the exact opposite. Sephiroth is manipulating the cells of the long dead Jenova.

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considering his mother complex and total dependency, I'm not sure the Sephiroth we're fighting in FFvii isn't a puppet of Jenova (Jenova isn't dead btw. That's the reason why they are able to transplant her cells in Soldier members). In advent children though, he may have sorted things out with his mother and really use his own will.

This game has a million references to other FFs.

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Man... Dissidia could have been so cool if it was a proper rpg and not a crummy fighting game =/

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It was actually a pretty good fighting game.

Good thing it was too, honestly. An RPG on that basis would be too much like a bad fanfiction.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

considering his mother complex and total dependency, I'm not sure the Sephiroth we're fighting in FFvii isn't a puppet of Jenova (Jenova isn't dead btw. That's the reason why they are able to transplant her cells in Soldier members). In advent children though, he may have sorted things out with his mother and really use his own will.

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Wow. A Kefka fan who can talk respectfully about Sephiroth. I have waited long for someone like you. Yes, he has a mother complex, but he is controlled more by ideas than a physical entity. At least that's how I see it. Transplants work on dead cells as well. That's essentually how cloning works, and that's how people plan to resurrect the very much extinct mammoth. I for one think Sephiroth got worse during advent children. More crazy I mean. In VII he had a relatively complex plan where he manipulating everything and anyone, including the planet itself, to reach his goal if merging with the lifestream, which he kinda did. In Advent Children, he just came back to troll Cloud.

Okay, now a question for all the Kefka fans. If he is in, do you think he is a Garlean soldier?
It would be a pretty nice way to make them relevant again. And since Garleans love italian, Palazzo wouldnt be out of place at all. Hmmm, Kefka sas Palazzo. Or perhaps Kefka van Palazzo. AAAAnd in the end, after playing around with the warring triads Kefka deus Palazzo. Yeah it would work. I doubt the new Emperor would be kicked off the Floating Continent this earyl, but maybe the Archbishop. Yeah, that would work nicely.

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Wow. A Kefka fan who can talk respectfully about Sephiroth. I have waited long for someone like you. Yes, he has a mother complex, but he is controlled more by ideas than a physical entity. At least that's how I see it. Transplants work on dead cells as well. That's essentually how cloning works, and that's how people plan to resurrect the very much extinct mammoth. I for one think Sephiroth got worse during advent children. More crazy I mean. In VII he had a relatively complex plan where he manipulating everything and anyone, including the planet itself, to reach his goal if merging with the lifestream, which he kinda did. In Advent Children, he just came back to troll Cloud.

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There is still the fact that we fight Jenova in FFvii. Four times. Which, if the Calamity is indeed dead at that point, becomes suddenly unclear to me after all these years :p

As for the kefka/sephiroth debate, I'm not into that. I like both for different reasons. Sephiroth is the mentally disturbed kid who never solved his mother complex and started to think that it was his duty to follow his mother's legacy. He's good as a villain but what's more interesting is the process of thoughts from the "I'm the son of a monster" to the "You're all monsters and I'll kill you all". Also the history about Hojo and the J-cells project.

Kefka however, if just one batshit crazy guy who wants to destroy the world because reasons. "I'm bored, so I'll annihilate you. sounds fun". For the entire time of the game, he manages to provoke chills down our spine with his laugh and his evilness. But worse, he's just genuinely evil. He's just doing that to keep himself entertained. For me, he's the one true villain of all final fantasy titles. There are other big baddies and stuff, but he is the only one who wants to destroy everything with no reason at all. Just for fun. Crazy bastard.

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Okay, now a question for all the Kefka fans. If he is in, do you think he is a Garlean soldier?
It would be a pretty nice way to make them relevant again. And since Garleans love italian, Palazzo wouldnt be out of place at all. Hmmm, Kefka sas Palazzo. Or perhaps Kefka van Palazzo. AAAAnd in the end, after playing around with the warring triads Kefka deus Palazzo. Yeah it would work. I doubt the new Emperor would be kicked off the Floating Continent this earyl, but maybe the Archbishop. Yeah, that would work nicely.

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I don't think kefka will ever come as he is in FFvi because the focus of the game is not the same as in FFvi. We're more in the "crystal type" of Final fantasy for now. Though there could be a similar crazy guy coming in the future with no morale at all, wrecking chaos and forcing the Empire to ally with Eorzea, leading to the access to the Garlean capital and their technology in a future extension.


(I might edit this post for further replies due to daily limit)

You have a point there, but what else are we going to do on the floating contient? Especially since the warring triads are pretty explicitly there.

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

Yeah, it would appear that "The Floating Continent" that's present in Heavensward isn't just going to share a name.

There's some theorizing going on that it'll be our next 24-man raid series.

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I sure hope so! They have lots more details they need to release about Heavensward.