Zodiac Weapon

So question. I am 3 books away from finishing up all the books for the weapon. Is it worth doing all the work with the expansion right around the corner? Thoughts??

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

So question. I am 3 books away from finishing up all the books for the weapon. Is it worth doing all the work with the expansion right around the corner? Thoughts??

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Honestly nobody can really answer this question at the moment.

Things we know:
- the zodiac quest line will continue in 3.1 so your weapons will never be useless
- they will most likely be the only weapons in the game with customizable stats

Things we don't know:
- they could make all current steps significantly easier in the expansion to account for level cap increase
- they could release grade 5 materia and make grade 4 significantly easier to obtain thereby reducing the current 350-450k value of certain grade 4s
- they could add additional weapons outside of 8 man raids that match or are better than the upgraded zodiac
- they could simply level sync players for current endgame dungeons and continue to make them go through all of the steps
- the weapons may not be useful at all until the 3.1 patch when they are upgraded again

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Originally Posted by starLivitation

i heard rumers from my friends saying the zeta quest is the final upgrade.

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Yoshi-P himself confirmed that the zodiac questline will continue in 3.1 during an interview.

i heard rumers from my friends saying the zeta quest is the final upgrade. i am not sure about this but, this will be major disapointment for me. i got 1 nexsus and 1 novus atm, and if it this is true, i dont know why would i bother finish them to zeta and why is everyone doing relic quest if this is true. i hope its not true.... plz let us know what is going to happen to relics in 3.0.....

From what I've heard, Zodiac Zeta is the final upgrade for the weapon. There will no doubt be a brand new relic weapon quest that will start in the expansion, and theories are that if you have obtained the Zeta, you will have a significant advantage starting off in the new relic quest. Just not sure what that means.

Thanks for all the replies. I just keep going back and fourth not knowing what to do! I will be changing mains come the expansion. So not sure I am just wasting my time since I will be swapping. Thanks for the info though!

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Originally Posted by DoctorPepper

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The current Relic Weapon won't continue towards Heavensward. There will be new lvl 60 relics.

Those who have completed at its fullest the level 50 Relic Quest are suposed to have a bonus that will aid them towards the new relic series.

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Originally Posted by BlueThunder

The current Relic Weapon won't continue towards Heavensward. There will be new lvl 60 relics.

Those who have completed at its fullest the level 50 Relic Quest are suposed to have a bonus that will aid them towards the new relic series.

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Apparently Yoshi said otherwise in an interview.

If this is the case, what I think they might be doing is make it so the Zodiac IS the Heavensward relic. Anybody who does it now just gets a jump on the process so you'll be 2 steps in when patch 3.1 drops. Either that or they'll make the early steps stupid easy in patch 3.0. IE: 100% drop rate on atmas, zodiac items, etc. Greatly reduced or removed tomestone costs. Remove the FATE kill requirements for books. That sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

Apparently Yoshi said otherwise in an interview.

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He was a little bit vague but this is the exact quote from various interviews:
Will we be able to continue to enhance the Zodiac weapons after the release of Heavensward?
Y: When Heavensward is first released and the level cap is raised, there will also be a large jump in item level. Character development will be the theme for the initial release of the expansion, 3.0. The growth of weapons and equipment will resume in 3.1, so if we do add new content to continue weapon growth, it will be in patch 3.1.

Will Zodiac weapons continue to undergo development in the future? Like in Heavensward?
Y: Since players who have been going through the whole Zodiac weapon saga so far have put a lot of work into it, it won't be like we suddenly forget all about them. For Heavensward, since the character level cap will be raised at the start, the adventurer himself will grow, so players will be aiming to acquire new items through the new content. Whether it's the Zodiac Weapon Saga or its sequel, players will be able to continue growing a weapon in patch 3.1.

So Zodiac Weapon owners will get some attention at that time.
Y: Yes, of course.

I am pretty sure they will start a new type of relic weapon in 3.0 that doesn't require you to have done the previous weapon. Given the fact it says its the final upgrade in the quest when you finish it.

Maybe we should wait til after Saturday. If Yoshi-P doesn't mention it during the PAX East panel then feel free to continue the wild speculations on something that will be answered in less then 3 months.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I am pretty sure they will start a new type of relic weapon in 3.0 that doesn't require you to have done the previous weapon. Given the fact it says its the final upgrade in the quest when you finish it.

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You say that but all I can think of is the name of this game and still waiting for the final one.

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Originally Posted by ereskigal

You say that but all I can think of is the name of this game and still waiting for the final one.

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I don't care either way because I have my zeta weapon but I can't see SE making people go through all the old content a ton especially for the new jobs for their weapons. And the last quest's story seemed like a conclusion to the current quest line.

If they let me keep my stats on my current zodiac when they release the new one from the expansion i will be happy.
I've put in 20mil to get full det full crit and I still dont have full on any because 50% means 0% in this game.
If I can't keep my stats im not bothering with new relic quest, its just a waste of gil and time

So I went through that whole long quest chain to give my weapon emotions and a soul... just so it can feel abandoned when I lock it away in favor of some new shiny?

That would be pretty rough.

Like I said in past, SE will stand to upset more people than to please if they just drop this relic and leave it at lvl50, there will be less if not nobody will do the 3.0 quest line due to it following the same crap as what happened from 2.0 to 30 relics. All to be dropped at 4.0. Beside SE already said all 2.0 content will be playable In 3.0.

I'm not sure if any of you guys are ex FFXI players or not, but through the life of that game, and I think we are talking about 4 to 6 expansions there were only 3 major relic weapons. And once the new relic was released things were done to make the old relic just as powerful, and in some cases more powerful than the new relic weapons.

The new relic weapons came out to be easier to get than the original, and rewarded those who did the old content for the original relic due to how stronger they were. 11 years later, the original relic still stands strong in FFXI. My honest opinion... My Zeta will forgo more changes and become stronger and stronger. If this is not the case, like some say, it will net me a stage or two advantage on the new weapon, but in no way do I see all we done turn to an absolute waste of time. That's not how a Final Fantasy MMO does things let alone I'm sure they learned from the recent delve weapon FFXI incident.

Hmm.

Maybe the Relic will level with you up to 60.
Before needing further upgrades.

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Originally Posted by DoctorPepper

Honestly nobody can really answer this question at the moment.

Things we know:
- the zodiac quest line will continue in 3.1 so your weapons will never be useless
- they will most likely be the only weapons in the game with customizable stats

Yoshi-P himself confirmed that the zodiac questline will continue in 3.1 during an interview.

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He did not say the zodiac questline will continue. He said that there will be a new weapon not related to the zodiac questline but players who have it will recieve a special something for it.


besides, WTB Mythic weapon now :) So long Relic

I finished my Zeta weapon, and I'm perfectly fine with it being retired in favor of a new weapon at level 60. I think continuing from Zeta would create an unreasonable burden on players picking up the game after 3.x. Or even worse... if they were to continue our current relics through the lifespan of the game (as has been suggested here), consider what a task it would be for a player starting in, oh let's say, 7.x to have to go ALLLLLLLLLL the way back to relic->zenith->atma->etc on through literal years of upgrades just to get to a current weapon. It'd be absurd, and it'd be bad design. Just because FFXI did it doesn't make it a good idea.

Is it so unreasonable to think there might be a new relic that gets added in 3.0/3.1, but the current relic will be able to be upgraded in parallel to the new one? I think that's what the XI players are mentioning, not forcing everyone to start from the i80 base relic years and years from now.