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03-04-2015, 12:41 PM
IllyriaKnotfred

Shiva card

0/127 , Awesome!
03-04-2015, 12:49 PM
Parodine

HMs or Ex?
03-04-2015, 12:50 PM
Edeline

HM? understandable. Try extreme though, it drops really often for 2 members of the party almost every run.
03-04-2015, 02:22 PM
Songi

Took me 32 runs of extreme to get a card to drop. It's a bad drop rate no matter how you slice it but at least it's an improved chance.
03-04-2015, 02:37 PM
Eul

1/1 when on roulette trial
03-04-2015, 02:42 PM
aisustrong

got it when farming ex
first kill of the night
03-04-2015, 02:54 PM
Felis

Got mine from Shiva hard while farming mahatma light.
03-04-2015, 03:04 PM
LordHadi

It dropped for me but I couldn't obtain it for having a full inventory lol
03-04-2015, 03:32 PM
MrsFluffyButt

Shiva HM 1st run.
Bartz and Terra - 50 runs + and nothing. RNG can ~=~¤ off!
03-04-2015, 04:18 PM
Ooshima

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred

0/127 , Awesome!

I'm half way there and no drops too >.>

Personally I don't think EX have a higher drop rate than HM, I think it is just pure good/bad luck.

Plus EX queue times are really slow even as a healer. The amount of time waiting for the queue + battle time, I could probably do more than 6 HM, which is almost instapop.
03-04-2015, 04:44 PM
Skeith-Adeline

Got mine on my third Shiva Hard Mode.

You can hate me.
03-04-2015, 07:11 PM
Sunako

I complete over 6 mahatma from shiva hm and in the end i get the card from extreme mode.
03-04-2015, 07:44 PM
ServerCollaps

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ooshima

I'm half way there and no drops too >.>

Personally I don't think EX have a higher drop rate than HM, I think it is just pure good/bad luck.

Plus EX queue times are really slow even as a healer. The amount of time waiting for the queue + battle time, I could probably do more than 6 HM, which is almost instapop.

ex modes definitely have a way higher droprate than hard modes. From my experience and what many other people say HM card drop rate should be 1-5%, ex mode around 10-20%
03-04-2015, 08:54 PM
aisustrong

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ooshima

I'm half way there and no drops too >.>

Personally I don't think EX have a higher drop rate than HM, I think it is just pure good/bad luck.

Plus EX queue times are really slow even as a healer. The amount of time waiting for the queue + battle time, I could probably do more than 6 HM, which is almost instapop.

that's because it's actually possible to wipe ex, unlike hm
03-04-2015, 09:22 PM
Sterre

I needed 20+ runs to get Shiva card from HM, for Terra, I don't even know how many runs I did(too many x__x), Bartz I got about in 10 runs :3
03-04-2015, 09:37 PM
ServerCollaps

Quote:

Originally Posted by aisustrong

that's because it's actually possible to wipe ex, unlike hm

try mog hm, every 2nd df group wipes because dds push the boss while ignoring the adds.
03-04-2015, 09:40 PM
Shneibel

Quote:

Originally Posted by aisustrong

that's because it's actually possible to wipe ex, unlike hm

doubt that, ifrit HM can still wipe...
03-04-2015, 09:52 PM
CodeCass

Grabbed it after about 10 runs of HM. :)
03-04-2015, 09:55 PM
Tiggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred

0/127 , Awesome!

0/127 Ex runs would be more impressive. I am not however impressed by that number from Hard mode fights. We all know the drop rate is worse. You're using the weaker method and you seem surprised at the results.
03-04-2015, 11:21 PM
LineageRazor

Quote:

Originally Posted by aisustrong

that's because it's actually possible to wipe ex, unlike hm

You'd be surprised at how many groups think it's safe to stack all four Hailstorms cuz it's lolhardmode.

Hilarity ensues!
03-04-2015, 11:44 PM
krazyrs

got in a zeta light window, dunno how many i fought but it was pretty early on in the 2hr window
03-05-2015, 12:47 AM
FranSeara

I got the card somewhere around 8 runs. Side note: Yes, You can still wipe on Ifriti Hm, Light farming,card getting knuckleheads like to leave 1 nail still up and dps the boss " This So-called skip a step" mainly ends up killing any non farming,relic questing just out of story mode players and Yes, me the healer.
03-05-2015, 12:56 AM
Tiggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranSeara

I got the card somewhere around 8 runs. Side note: Yes, You can still wipe on Ifriti Hm, Light farming,card getting knuckleheads like to leave 1 nail still up and dps the boss " This So-called skip a step" mainly ends up killing any non farming,relic questing just out of story mode players and Yes, me the healer.

Last I checked you can't just leave a nail. It explodes and wipes the raid. What step do they seem to think they are skipping because it sounds like they want to gleefully wipe.
03-05-2015, 01:02 AM
Massterchef

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiggy

Last I checked you can't just leave a nail. It explodes and wipes the raid. What step do they seem to think they are skipping because it sounds like they want to gleefully wipe.

Actually, yes you can leave a nail and phase-push which speeds up the fight. It should be roughly about 2-3k AoE damage per person, obviously not enough to wipe.
03-05-2015, 01:17 AM
FranSeara

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiggy

Last I checked you can't just leave a nail. It explodes and wipes the raid. What step do they seem to think they are skipping because it sounds like they want to gleefully wipe.

This is ENOUGH to wipe/kill lesser geared non-tank players. Leaving 1 nail may nearly kill your healers without Stoneskin, SS or a Whms protect on. I saw a "just out of story mode tank with 3800 hp die this moring after the 1 nail expoded. I do my light farming at item level 65-70 gear to save gil. Eating Garud's winds and Ifriti's fire attacks adds up. Its very costly. tip: This method may not be worth the 3-4 sec. it shaves off this already easy fight. IMO
"Do what you want , I will always kill that nail"
03-05-2015, 02:17 AM
DoctorPepper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiggy

We all know the drop rate is worse. You're using the weaker method and you seem surprised at the results.

I'm just curious if you can point me towards any actual data for this?

So far I've seen a lot of people saying this yet I've done a fair number of ex primals and have not gotten any card drops from them. In addition I haven't seen a single post with any actual data that shows the drop rate is higher on both the forums and reddit. I'm trying to determine if this is just a rumor started by assuming players or if was actually said by the devs/proven anywhere?

Right now based on my own experience, if the drop rate is better that increase is marginal at best. I've done around 30 ex primals since the patch and haven't gotten a single card from those, I understand that's a rather small sample size though so I would love it if anybody can point me to any real numbers.
03-05-2015, 02:44 AM
Kaizlu

RNG at it's best I guess.

I've been light farming this past week and I already got Levi (from HM), Shiva twice (HM and EX), Garuda (from HM) and Gilgamesh (Bridge). I think I'm using all my up luck, I don't want to know how bad it will go once I get to the zodiac step of my relic.