BLM tips for when mobs all turn on you, or tank is dead etc?

I'm a BLM level 39 right now so haven't hit the end of the game yet, but in doing the most recent dungeons sometimes someone else will get killed, or I'll draw enemity and have the mob turn on me etc. I don't want to just wipe without a fight, or I just need to survive long enough for the healer to raise the dead player etc. I find at this moment when I have things hitting me, and I'm dealing with mana etc I can't think fast enough as to what to cast if I should be attacking or healing myself or healing someone else etc. Swiftcast helps if they are really hitting me, but then you have to wait to use it again and you're still taking damage. I'm sure it's different as I unlock more abilities later on but are there any tips or things people do for situations like this? Sometimes I try sleep but that's better for fates as most bosses and adds can't get put to sleep in dungeons I've found. I know it's situation dependent but thought I'd check to see if there's something obvious. Thx!

Sleep 100% works on adds, bosses no. Either surecast bliz II for a quick bind followed by sprint sleep that bys you plenty of time and space to kite, always best to keep swiftcast up for those really OH SHIT moments. Looking at your level i say we are talking about cutters cry 1st boss, you shouldn't at any point touch those adds its the healers responsibility to kite these.

I myself am 41 whm and been through cutters cry quite a bit, people only die if standing in bomb aoe or chimera aoes repeatly

At your level you should be using fire II now if your tank is struggling to maintain hate its a choice between sleep fire III single mobs or with a competent healer Fire II spam

Blizzard can help out with its heavy side affect if a mob os gunning you down

Great thanks so much that actually helps a lot as I forgot about Bind as I knew Blizzard did that but didn't know what it did until last night. It's also great to know that sleep works on the adds, as I knew it didn't on the boss so didn't always try it. So that would be helpful I think, either Swiftcasting Sleep or Blizzard II to at least figure some things out. I haven't done Cutter's Cry yet I was queuing earlier but was like 40 minutes so logged off. This was actually more so with Sunken City or Sunken whatever it is before Cutter's Cry as we had a TERRIBLE healer, like just couldn't understand what we meant by standing on the platforms to remove Doom when they light up. We actually finished it with 4 minutes to spare on the timer that's how bad it was lol.

Qarn is, in general, pretty terrible in DF. If possible, definitely don't go back in there.

As mentioned, Sleep and the bind from B2 are really good options for keeping damage away from you, especially if a tank has died. At 50, a lot of monsters can't actually be slept, but binding them still works afaik. If all else fails, kiting with Scathe is a good option, though less reliable. You'll also gain access to mitigation through Manaward/wall, which can help a tiny bit in those situations. If you have it, Virus is also good.

Of course, all that said, it's much better if the tank doesn't die and you don't pull aggro, so if you can avoid either then try your best to do so. I know it doesn't always work out that way (DF is a terrifying place), but if it does come to a situation where you're going to pull threat off X mob, make sure to switch to another.

This is what i do in such case - if sleep isnt working of course: popping manawall or manaward depending of what kind of attacks the mobs do in order to stay alive, virus it if necessary (but it increases threat) then of course run to the tank asap to let him get the mobs back.

Swiftcasting Freeze or Blizzard 2 Works well after 50 as most mobs anymore in higher dungeons resist sleep.

Pre-50 though once ypu get the trait to have sleep effect all nearby enemies it works wonders.

Great thanks yeah it's helpful. Was in Cutter's Cry just now and tank died because his Internet dropped, then the others did and it was just me but for at least a few minutes until I lapsed and realized nothing was happening other than the "Not enough MP" message lol, by the time I tried to transpose and what not I was dead. Find it so frustrating playing on PS4 sometimes!

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Great thanks yeah it's helpful. Was in Cutter's Cry just now and tank died because his Internet dropped, then the others did and it was just me but for at least a few minutes until I lapsed and realized nothing was happening other than the "Not enough MP" message lol, by the time I tried to transpose and what not I was dead. Find it so frustrating playing on PS4 sometimes!

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Hook up a mouse and keyboard then?

There's really nothing wrong with being on PS4. I played with controller for 7-8ish months before I got a new tv, re-arranged my room and basically turned my ps4 into a desktop, and now I'm keyboard and mouse all day.

When it comes to dealing with mobs in dungeons < lvl 50, I found it best to keep all of the enemies asleep except for the one the tank and other dps are focused on. Once you get it down, you can sleep and dps very easily. If your party focuses on burning down one enemy at a time, you'll get through dungeons quickly and safely.

If the tank goes down, protect the healer and let the other dps deal with aggro. Use sleep, at your level it should be an AOE. A little trick with sleep is you can cast it as filler while you are waiting for your MP bar to fill.

Or you can run into a mob and cast Blizzard 2, and always have some ethers hotkeyed so you can pop one in case you are out of MP.

Your tank should be able to hold hate, but in the case he/she for whatever reason could not, sleep works magic.

You will definitely appreciate sleep during dungeons like Dzemael Darkhold later. Mobs hurts like crazy and without Flare, your Fire II is pretty pathetic as AoE. If you ever find your tank/healer could not keep up, just sleep the pack.

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...without Flare, your Fire II is pretty pathetic as AoE.

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Exactly. In the under lvl 50 dungeons, use Fire II on mobs/adds that have very low HP. There are only a few spots like that, and you'll know them when you come across them.

Thanks everyone, have to say I'm MUCH better at it now, can get sleep or Blizzard II cast pretty quickly and it's a huge help. Even Blizzard II and then sprint away to get a break. I have a keyboard and mouse connected for when I need it but I've tried 5 keyboards, some bluetooth some wireless USB and they all have serious lag unless I type really slow. I type around 145 wpm and on PS4 with any keyboard in FF only (if I go to friends list on the PS4 and send a message it's perfectly fine), they will turn out like "Hhhey anyone wantto do a duungeon?" So didn't think it would be ideal to control it that way.

Have you tried a wired USB keyboard?

I can't believe no one has suggested Quelling Strikes yet xD if you are finding yourself pulling agro a lot then I highly suggest you get it.

Also sounds like the keyboard issue. I use a wireless keyboard and have no issues. I still use controller to play. The only downside is when you have 10+ targets and you need to focus on one but other than that no issues.

Yeah I've tried a few keyboards wired and not, seems to be a known issue as if you google PS4 ffxiv keyboard lag there's tons of posts on them. If I go to the PS4 home screen and send a friend a message, there's no problem at all, so it's something with the game. Not a huge deal but I'll try another some other time maybe. I bought a Logitech G600 gaming mouse which I've seen works on PS4 for this (bought it more for my PC and work but will serve dual purpose), as I think having that sitting beside me to just quickly grab it and click who I want to target sometimes will be way easier. I do have Quelling Strikes also and definitely use that often as soon as I start to pull!

Can't say I've ever experienced any lag issues with my keyboard in this game, and I too type pretty quickly.
Sucks you have that issue though I could see how it'd be irritating/problematic.

Mine is wired though not sure if that makes a difference.
I refuse to use wireless keyboard or a mouse.

I'll try it again with a wired one later, it's just weird because as mentioned if I use the keyboard in any other game I can type no problem, it's only ff14 that has the lag and issues, so makes it hard to troubleshoot when it seems there's nothing wrong with the keyboard but more the game.

No advice on blm things, but I can confirm keyboard lag issues with a USB keyboard on ps4. The issue that annoys me the most is doubling i's.. Like.. "I ifeel like a crazed apple fan whenever I itry to type." I also have repeated letters, skipped characters, and random movement after hitting enter/when trying to type.. And I have the option to only use keyboard to chat selected..

It's kind've a bit late if the tank has already died, but don't forget you can help (a little) to prevent that happening in the first place, with Eye for an Eye (good pre cast before tank runs in and draws a crowd) and Apocostatsis (very situational) and as someone above said virus (again a bit late if the tank dies and your using virus to stay alive yourself, better to try and use before hand to ease the incoming damage on the tank to begin with). if the tank does drop i'll use ward/wall, then try and burn down the add. DON'T bother trying to heal yourself thru it, will almost never work, much better chance of killing the add before it kills you. Apologies if any of these abilities aren't actually available at your level, I can't remember what level any of them unlock at

Thanks everyone, I'm getting better at it now, I think the biggest issue I have is because I'm on PS4 and so a lot of adds I find hard to kill because they are dead before I can finish casting. Like I just did Garuda, and it was brutal because those adds appear that we have to kill asap, but I don't think I helped with any because I could never get them. I usually would hold L1 and then up or down to select one on the enemity list, but sometimes by the time you select it, then start to cast, the thing is dead, so try to target another one, only to have it say out of range, because you don't really know where on the screen they are, and so on. I find I usually just have to use Scathe in these situations but that's my biggest frustration. Especially if you're getting low on MP and need to do Blizzard 3, can just get tricky.

I pray my healer is good and will save me if the tank can't hold my threat or he's dead.

If the tank died, I hold my grounds since it's most-likely a wipe.

If I took aggro, I pray my tank is smart and the reaosn i took aggro is because he's iLevel 90 so he'll cover me. If you take aggro from a warrior... Run for your life. Nothing will save you.

If healer and tank die between one boss and the next... say a pull was too big for one or more party members to manage... and I looks like a full party wipe anyway I'll try and finish off whatever adds I can so they won't be there on the next trip through.

Wave your arms in the air and scream, "Oh Shit we're gonna die!"

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Wave your arms in the air and scream, "Oh Shit we're gonna die!"

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I remember a while back,was in cutters cry i think it was,everyone died but me(blm) i was kiting a train of 6 mobs shouting "you'll never take me alive" It got a few laughs,job done...or maybe they were laughing at my death as i stopped kiting for a second to get that typed in,idk.