How do you feel about ilvl sync on dungeons?

I personally find it annoying.

Sure, maybe the lowest ilvl lvl50 dungeons like Wanderer's Palace aren't too affected by it, but more recent dungeons like Hullbreaker feel more dull and slow than they could be. (Using the short period where ilvl sync was temporarily removed as a comparison to the current situation.)

It also makes no sense to me why Castrum/Praetorium & weaker trials like HM Primals, Chimera, Hydra...etc. aren't ilvl synced, if the purpose of it is to help lower geared players not get overwhelmed.

It doesn't really bother me any. You're losing at absolute maximum 20 item levels, and being ilevel 110 is overgeared for all of it anyway. I don't hate it, but I don't really care if it's there or not either.

I guess hating the item level sync would be the same as hating any other sync in the game, to me.

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

It doesn't really bother me any. You're losing at absolute maximum 20 item levels, and being ilevel 110 is overgeared for all of it anyway. I don't hate it, but I don't really care if it's there or not either.

I guess hating the item level sync would be the same as hating any other sync in the game, to me.

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Overgeared, but still slower than it could be. When running dungeons possibly dozens of times for Zodiac items, it can really add up.

I don't like it tbh.

Being powerful in OLD content at the very least should be the payoff for having to repeat the same old dungeons over and over and over to complete current quests.

they should in fact be entered duo/solo by now

eventually, linking everything in the game to a "must do all dungeon" design will nip them in the butt. in the future they will have to change things for new players.
but back on topic, item level sync was not necessary imo

I personally dislike it. Players should be given an option as to whether they want to run the dungeon ilvl synced or not. Also to take it a step further players should be able to choose what ilvl to be synced to to further increase challenge. Spiritbonding in dungeons is already a player driven ilvl sync, we as players should be in control over how we run dungeons.

I'm actually upset that ilevel sync isn't more strict. It's rather unfair to new players, especially tanks and healers coming into these dungeons with only AF gear.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

Overgeared, but still slower than it could be. When running dungeons possibly dozens of times for Zodiac items, it can really add up.

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Then does the fault lie with the item level sync, or the design of the Zodiac quest?

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

Then does the fault lie with the item level sync, or the design of the Zodiac quest?

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That was just an example scenario. The speed of running dungeons for glamour pieces, Triple Triad cards, high level roulette, crafting mats, minions...etc. is also hampered by the ilvl sync.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

That was just an example scenario. The speed of running dungeons for glamour pieces, Triple Triad cards, high level roulette, crafting mats, minions...etc. is also hampered by the ilvl sync.

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Not everyone plays to speedrun either, though. In the case of many of those there are alternative ways to get the items in question without running a dungeon repeatedly, and for those where there is no other option, syncing ilevel so that you're still incredibly overgeared but not as overgeared as you can possibly be is barely a detriment.

Those dungeons weren't designed for people at your gear level, thus the term "over-geared". They're designed for people in a lower gear range, and the sync keeps you from having too many problems coordinating with them, as Cutie_McSnuggles said. It's a sad day when you get a pug tank in Pharos Sirius wearing ilevel 70-80 equipment that gets kicked for being unable to keep up with the coil-geared DPS rushing them to go faster so they can get their light. This situation seems to be one of those where you want an entire system to conform to you, without looking at others who may be hampered by that mentality.

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

Not everyone plays to speedrun either, though. In the case of many of those there are alternative ways to get the items in question without running a dungeon repeatedly, and for those where there is no other option, syncing ilevel so that you're still incredibly overgeared but not as overgeared as you can possibly be is barely a detriment.

Those dungeons weren't designed for people at your gear level, thus the term "over-geared". They're designed for people in a lower gear range, and the sync keeps you from having too many problems coordinating with them, as Cutie_McSnuggles said. It's a sad day when you get a pug tank in Pharos Sirius wearing ilevel 70-80 equipment that gets kicked for being unable to keep up with the coil-geared DPS rushing them to go faster so they can get their light. This situation seems to be one of those where you want an entire system to conform to you, without looking at others who may be hampered by that mentality.

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That doesn't explain why Castrum/Praetorium, HM Primals, Chimera, Hydra...etc. aren't synced.
It can also be argued that while not everyone intends to speedrun, it's a shame that those who do want to are hampered.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

That doesn't explain why Castrum/Praetorium, HM Primals, Chimera, Hydra...etc. aren't synced.
It can also be argued that while not everyone intends to speedrun, it's a shame that those who do want to are hampered.

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I do agree that it's weird that main story trials and dungeons aren't synced. Especially Castrum and Praetorium. But that being said, the dungeons weren't designed to be speedran. If you want to do a speedrun, don't pug it... actually, that's an idea. Removing the level sync for premades.

Though I still disagree with the idea that you're being hampered by being forced to be "merely" overgeared for dungeons.

If these dungeons weren't meant to be speed ran then they need to up the anti on them, make the mobs and bosses harder. I can pull an entire dungeon mob to the boss rooms and hardly take any damage or worry too much about tanking as I hardly ever lose hate to those who are synched to 110, I'm only ilvl 103. Heck they even put the option in the PF to indicate a speed run. No challenge. Maybe if I get into Coil I may find it there.

Sync should be the ilv of dungeon drops +20. So 75 for AK/WP, 110 for Snowcloak/SashHM/Qarn HM and so on.

I think the level sync should be more strict. Being so overgeared just breaks the game mechanics (specifically bosses, not trash mobs) and is utterly unfair to newer players.

I do very much understand people not wanting the sync at all. We earned the powerful gear and it shouldn't be nerfed in a specific instance. And while you can still speedrun dungeons with a stricter sync, it still takes longer to complete it.

It just becomes a debate over who gets the short end of the stick, the people who played a lot already or the people who are still trying to get up there.

Also I had a thread on this subject :P http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Level-Syncs

it bothers me because it removes the point of getting gear at all, unles you are raiding.
Correct me if im wrong but we currently have 3 dungeons where there isnt a level sync right?
I just feel its so cheap, they could've done hard mechanics but instead they just make us deal less damage to make it "harder"
Dungeons in this game is a joke and I really hope they make it better in the expansion

All the pre-level 50 dungeons use level sync and I'm fine with level sync as a system but those were character level based. I don't know why we need to use a different kind of level sync (ilevel) right now. Why not leave the dungeons as they were and just put in the same level sync all the other dungeons have in expansion (Sync them to level 51-52 for example). Stronger gear means easier dungeons. I don't think it's that weird. Dungeons designed around a certain character level range feels less weird to me. Having both kinds of level sync seems like the strangest option.