Chocobo Races TOO OP! Question for Ya'll though!

Just want to go ahead and let everyone know I'm the KING of Chocobo Racing and if you want to go Fast and Furious with me then let me so we can showdown at the Chocobo DRIFT!

Now for my question...

What changes or things would you like to see added to the Chocobo Racing?

For me I would like to see
-A betting system added for racers.
-A spectator mode which also has a betting system.
-Let us use our weapons once while racing as an ability maybe? :)
-Have the ability to knock people off their chocobos, especially those Lalas! :O
-Able to rev (or SQUAK) our Chocobos to get the engines and adrenaline ready before takeoff.

Anyhow I can go on but my race que just popped, so let me know your thoughts. :)

It would be pretty cool to be able to "Rev" up our birds at the gate for sure!

Having some kind of friendly taunt emote would be cool as well. I'd really like to burn past someone and be able to give em' the old trucker horn pull. WOOMP WOOOOMP! lol :3

This is more about what the races need rather than what I want, but I hope they add more endurance focused tracks because currently all of the available tracks are sprint focused making for very linear stamina strategy where every body spends 80%-90% of the race lathered.

Also I suggest that they need to rework the Briars item as currently it is far too game changing for a common item, or at least omit it from the first two item chests where everyone is gathered up so it becomes more of a mid-late race item where players are often more spread out and it can be used/saved more strategically than simply screwing over 3-7 other racers within the first 10-20 seconds of the race.

Lastly they need to address the "head start" ability as it is extremely unfair if only one person in the race has that ability as it guarantees them control over the first chest every time, all the time as well as giving them a stamina advantage. Currently the only counter play to it is the sprint ability.
The only defining factor that gets you out of the gates faster than anybody else should be your acceleration stat in my opinion. I know you could argue that it's a limiting ability because obviously it gets used straight away and then its gone for the whole race. However I have raced the same person more than ten times in a row with that ability and I could never beat them simply because of the gap, item and stamina advantage it creates and I honestly don't think you could argue player skill either because every time I raced this person I always finished 2nd with that initial starting gap mostly remaining intact if not increased through sprint shoe items. So with all that in mind I personally feel it needs a nerf in it's current state, for example: Decrease the covered distance/time passed that head start remains active during at the start of the race.

I say no to using weapons during the race because then every race would be focused on who can smack each other around until their stamina depletes or someone who is fast enough can just zoom ahead to avoid the cluster #$*(%. Ditto for throwing people off their birds; this is a race, not Mario Kart or Road Rash.

Devs said they are looking into a spectator mode however.

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This is more about what the races need rather than what I want, but I hope they add more endurance focused tracks because currently all of the available tracks are sprint focused making for very linear stamina strategy where every body spends 80%-90% of the race lathered.

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Yeah, this really throws me that there's so much stamina as a baseline that it really doesn't matter when we choose to sprint. If you get a Stamina Tablet or two it's entirely possible you'll reach the end of the race with stamina to spare even if you spend the second half permanent dashing!

I would agree on that, but I had my share of races where I spammed that wine that puts someone in a 15 second Lathered status and screwed them over from emptying their stamina too soon.

(Bearing in mind that I race with a rank 40 chocobo so the stamina/endurance stat is fairly high)

Currently the only reason not to sprint is if you get heavied (as by the time it wears off you'll still be mostly accelerated towards your max speed) or get caught in a briars, or on the on the other hand if you have a briars and everyone knows it you can hog the lane and force everyone to stay put behind you for quite some time.

However my point is 2/3 tracks can be raced without ever letting go of that sprint button as long as you don't lose stamina via an external means (items, obstacles etc...) Even the third track which is 1700 yalms only requires that you cover about 10% of the track without using sprint.

Agreed Briars is massively overpowered and could use a bit of adjusting. Also I noticed the NPC racers will get the bonus at the end. Is there a way to exclude them from the roulette?

speed and stamina are going to be the defining things to win races just like in 7, if you get a fast start and a decent lead and have stamina enough to increase it you will in nearly all circumstances win. at the very least until everyone is running with the top tier chocobo's, then player skill will be a factor for sure.

the races need some tweaks and its hard to say for certain but some things seem slow or lagged like jumping for instance, not sure if its working as intended since my bird is still pretty low level but it definitely takes at least 2 seconds before it actually jumps. also sometimes when running over a buff or debuff or chest marker you sometimes don't get the intended effect even though you clearly went over it.

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Originally Posted by Linadae

Also I noticed the NPC racers will get the bonus at the end. Is there a way to exclude them from the roulette?

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agreed the npc players shouldn't get the bonus

Already Rank 33 with my current chocobo and I can safely say I have not once considered really pumping stamina/endurance/cunning thanks to current track layouts. Everything has gone into speed/acceleration. I did some stam/end early on for a minor boost but since about rank 15~20 I haven't needed to raise them anymore.

The current tracks are pretty much just "you either go fast or you get screwed". Weather at least plays some factor in that it seems to slow you down/increase stamina consumption if you're lathered, but its really not a major factor (unless bad weather persists for the WHOLE race).

And what does cunning even do- I never saw it explained.

Edit: All in all, its a new system. I'm sure Heavensward will bring some changes. Right now it seems like they wanted to get a good framework down. I think its in a good spot to be expanded on.

Yeah, if you have NPCs participating, they definitely shouldn't be getting that bonus. Also, those briars are crazy OP, lol. I've been dumping most of my points into stamina (currently rank 24) and those briars can still take me down from like 70% to 50%, basically putting me out of the race just because I get hit by them once (or if someone turns towards me with them).

I understand abilities are supposed to help you, but when you've been conserving your stamina and such, then someone pops these briars on you and can basically put you out of the game, that's definitely not cool. I'm not saying they shouldn't drain stamina at all. That part is fine, but it just shouldn't be so much, ya know? Maybe each time they pop you, take 3-5% instead. That can still hurt you, but you can still recover and stay in the race too rather than being knocked out early and basically just finishing the remaining 25-30% of the course as a formality.

God help you if you're surrounded by three people that use them on you. You're pretty much dead at that point, lol.

Briars needs to be tuned down. They need to be a threat but not a race ender. The way they are now, you get stuck in one, you might as well just sit back and enjoy the scenery because it will take a miracle and some incredible jockeying to come out in any kind of position. Basically all Briars has done has added Twintania's twisters on to the race track and no one likes one hit kills when they're just trying to have fun.

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Originally Posted by MassEffect007

For me I would like to see
-A betting system added for racers.
-A spectator mode which also has a betting system

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They've already said "No betting" due to the implications with gambling and irl laws and stuff. I know with simulated gambling the game would retain the T rating it has in the US, but I don't know if it would change the rating in other countries. A spectator mode should be perfectly all right though and I would like to watch my LS friends when they do races together.

I agree that the briars are a bit much (shortly before the game went down for maint, I was in a race where I got hit by 2 overlapping briars and then after another chest I got hit with another 2 overlapping in that same race), Most of the time though, when you're only hit with 1 at a time, I think they are recoverable if you make sure you know the course and get the right chests (sometimes it's better to miss a chest than to let the person right behind you get a briar for instance). There is a little bit of strategy involved.

Also keep in mind that you can only hold 1 item at a time, so don't forget or postpone using something at the expense of the next good chest. Admittedly I've done that once or twice ._. But I learned!

Briars = blueshell
I guess yoshi wasn't to pleased how ppl ignored briars in t6 so he brought them back to let ppl shove it in each other's faces.
We should get items tho that will help us catch up if were near last cuz once ur in the back then there's almost no chance of getting back in the race lol.

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Originally Posted by Soular

Already Rank 33 with my current chocobo and I can safely say I have not once considered really pumping stamina/endurance/cunning thanks to current track layouts. Everything has gone into speed/acceleration. I did some stam/end early on for a minor boost but since about rank 15~20 I haven't needed to raise them anymore.

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As far as I've perused the internet for information it appears the best thing to do is refrain from buying feed (other than grade 1 at the stables with gil) until you are able to breed a chocobo otherwise it's essentially an MGP sink as stats are not hereditary and you'll never be able to use your first chocobo again after you use it for breeding. You can probably save in excess of 10,000 MGP if you don't buy grade 2/3 chocobo feed at every available opportunity with your first chocobo. Just a tip for newer players who were considering stocking up on stats via grade2/3 feed.

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Originally Posted by chidarake

speed and stamina are going to be the defining things to win races just like in 7, if you get a fast start and a decent lead and have stamina enough to increase it you will in nearly all circumstances win. at the very least until everyone is running with the top tier chocobo's, then player skill will be a factor for sure.

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Also you should consider that some future race tracks will more than likely be endurance focused where you will periodically need to switch between sprinting and running, in which case endurance and cunning will be more important due to those two stats allowing a more consistent average speed over a longer course. But yes at this current point in time those are basically the most advantageous stats given the course lengths.

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Originally Posted by MassEffect007

-Let us use our weapons once while racing as an ability maybe? :)

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Might as well ask for full access to our abilities. Whm Holying away on her Chocobo. It's turned into PvP!

Also, keep an eye out on who snagged the Briar powerup and stay away from them. If you see the next treasure box containing like 3-Briars and you're in the middle of a pack of racers, slow down or attempt to burst ahead of them. It's going to be painful otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Briars = blueshell
I guess yoshi wasn't to pleased how ppl ignored briars in t6 so he brought them back to let ppl shove it in each other's faces.
We should get items tho that will help us catch up if were near last cuz once ur in the back then there's almost no chance of getting back in the race lol.

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This isn't Mario Kart. Last place does not need something to cheese people who actually earned first place through body blocking and/or luck. That is what cunning/speed/endurance is for.

Later on, if you go past level 10, you do get a skill that may/may not help. As a tip, you should get rid of level head asap with the lethe water if you're one of the unlucky ones to get it. If anything in Chocobo Racing should change, it's skills that are completely useless for the racer, and heavy having an actual detriment instead of 'you need to hold W now'.

Still, briars are irritating when three are bunched up and you're in the middle of the pack.

Edit: Oh yea. Don't even get me started on how god awful the movement latency is for turning in chocobo racing. This isn't 2.0, get it done right or not at all.

Briars are strong, but they hit a very small area around the person using it. Be aware of those who pick them up, and avoid them. You don't need to stand right on top of someone as they use one, you know.

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Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327

Briars are strong, but they hit a very small area around the person using it. Be aware of those who pick them up, and avoid them. You don't need to stand right on top of someone as they use one, you know.

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So you've come in here to tell us that we're the problem and not what the majority of players who've had their say so far agree on? You're welcome to your opinion, but there is no need to suggest that we are some how lacking in common sense, that's just rude.

I think I would be happy if they added lag-free gameplay. I miss 50% of the chests when I play and sometimes it will change the outcome of the game.
I am not surprised though, SE always messes up with things I look forward to.

You guys complain about different abilities, you should be happy if you can even pick them up.

I know im not the only one lagging though as I sometimes see that the players behind me miss the same chests as me (especially those jumping ones, its so weird to see 3 players behind all jumping and no one gets the chest cause of the ~5 sec jump delay)

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Originally Posted by Liselsia

Big Question

Has anyone got to R-500 ? Someone on reddit claimed he got to it and tracks were much huger being up to 15 minutes to complete. He never really responded so troll chance seems to be high but who really knows. I been concerned with the small tracks seeing stamina playing smaller and smaller role as stats go higher and higher. So I really want to know if we indeed get bigger maps at higher brackets.

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Chocobo racing has been available for about 2 days now, it takes roughly 8-12 hours to get a rank 40 chocobo required for breeding you would then need to do that over quite a number of times to get to a rating of 500. You also need to wait 6 hours when you breed before your new chocobo is born. I'm quite happy to say that it would be physically impossible to get to the R-500 bracket in two days.

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Originally Posted by Fealow

Chocobo racing has been available for about 2 days now, it takes roughly 8-12 hours to get a rank 40 chocobo required for breeding you would then need to do that over quite a number of times to get to a rating of 500. You also need to wait 6 hours when you breed before your new chocobo is born. I'm quite happy to say that it would be physically impossible to get to the R-500 bracket in two days.

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Yep that would be a pretty fair assessment assuming Bracket progression continues like it has. Or perhaps it takes a huge leap from R-100 to R-500. I certainly wouldnt say thats impossible. Especially sense Around Rating 70-100 is where you be regularly retiring chocobos at. So perhaps 100-500 will be a huge grinding spot for racer. It make sense in a way. Even after two days you seen the effect of having so many brackets. Most people in R-100 have never seen a fellow racer at all.

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Originally Posted by MassEffect007

-Let us use our weapons once while racing as an ability maybe? :)

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Nah I'd say give us a battle race as an alternative so you have both for the pure racers and for those that prefer a mix. Where you actually do get to have fun with weapons. But to make it even everyone gets a popoto cannon or something like it to fight.

I would like weekly tournaments with prizes.

You have 15mins to sign up before the first race kicks off.When the 15mins are up,player races start every 5mins until every signup has had a race.1st 2nd and 3rd of each race move into next round with a 15min lul.So it keeps going like that until it's whittled down to a final race.

Either there would have to be a max number that could sign up to make races even,or you'd have to fill some spots with npcs.

Could have a tournament board that's updated after every race so people can stare at it or...something.

I'd also like the higher ranked races with more mgp rewards,because triad blows chocobo racing out of the water in that respect with some npc opponents.

I'd like endurance races(so focusing on stam and endurance means something) with mgp scaled according to the races length.

What kind of prizes would you like to see ?

A idea would be A trophy with some stats of the race that can be consumed for some MGP (that can be sold on MB). This would double as a prize of honor for hardcore racers, a Alternative revenue for racers, way to bring more people into upper folds of racing, and a way for hardcore players to buy their way into Fenrir mount.

I dont feel purchasable MGP would affect Choco Racing to much sense you till have to raise each chocobo for breeding.

Tournament prizes would be one of an option of: trophy minion, trophy tabletop housing item, trophy standalone indoor housing item, trophy outdoor housing item, trophy wall plaque, trophy necklace, trophy bracelet, trophy ring, trophy crown, trophy barding(so everyone knows you the champ while racing them), trophy ticket(one time use MGS points 10k? 100k?), trophy vouchers(free runs of racing, mini games, TT games)

And this would be an option for each winner. Either weekly or monthly tournament. And of course first win nets you a title as well.

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Originally Posted by MassEffect007

-Let us use our weapons once while racing as an ability maybe? :)
-Have the ability to knock people off their chocobos, especially those Lalas! :O

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looked too much Ben Hur? ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V40qSZC77ug

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Originally Posted by ruskie

Tournament prizes would be one of an option of: trophy minion, trophy tabletop housing item, trophy standalone indoor housing item, trophy outdoor housing item, trophy wall plaque, trophy necklace, trophy bracelet, trophy ring, trophy crown, trophy barding(so everyone knows you the champ while racing them), trophy ticket(one time use MGS points 10k? 100k?), trophy vouchers(free runs of racing, mini games, TT games)

And this would be an option for each winner. Either weekly or monthly tournament. And of course first win nets you a title as well.

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I like all these ideas (perhaps instead of a trophy ticket, each winner gets both a choice of their prize + some reasonable amount of MGP, maybe 10k, 100k, something, idk). I really do hope they eventually introduce racing tournaments, as I was rather disappointed to not see anything of the sort anywhere, whereas TT has one coming up in March. Much prefer racing to card games, honestly.

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Originally Posted by Felis

looked too much Ben Hur? ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V40qSZC77ug

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Lol, such a good movie!

nerf caltrops pls T_T

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Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa

I like all these ideas (perhaps instead of a trophy ticket, each winner gets both a choice of their prize + some reasonable amount of MGP, maybe 10k, 100k, something, idk). I really do hope they eventually introduce racing tournaments, as I was rather disappointed to not see anything of the sort anywhere, whereas TT has one coming up in March. Much prefer racing to card games, honestly.

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Well I was thinking you always get the choice of all of them. So if you are short on MGP then you pick the MGP ones, if you want any of the times then grab those items.

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Originally Posted by MassEffect007

Let us use our weapons once while racing as an ability maybe?

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lol this would be "Chocobo Road Rash". Someone break out the bat n chain. Time to knock off some riders.