They say that they are going to put flying mounts into the game. Can I ask why? What is the point when the map is closed in with exits? And not open like that have flying mounts. Airships and teleporting goes hand and hand. What is the point of having airships like lvl 15-17 story quests when you just teleport. Sure might be tiny pricey starting out, but around lvl 30, no longer useful. You make enough money you can just teleport. To respective place. They should either make the teleport class restriction like in FF11 or you can only teleport in the same area of the major city.
Yes I might be old fashion or or taking it way to serious like some may say... but With teleport and closed in maps, there is no real reason to have airships or flying mounts.
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02-22-2015, 04:47 AMTecprincesselfMounts/Airships/Teleporting
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02-22-2015, 04:53 AMBreathlessTao
Flying won't be available in the current zones, only what's added in Heavensward (and I'd imagine later on). And the new areas are, admittedly, going to have places that you'll need to go up to reach - at least for initial discovery; aetherytes probably won't disappear, that's a different thing.
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02-22-2015, 05:00 AMTecprincesself
Ok, flying mounts I see just for new areas, but Reason FF is FF is due to airships and (I don't know what you call this kinda civiliation with old and new tecnology.) Guess steam punkish like with out the steam. Having Teleports that well lets you teleport cheap anywhere once discovered is bad. I even found a loop hole for any new player that joins a FC. They don't need to wait for Airship quest to go anywhere. Say your in Limsa and join a FC. Your lvl 10. The FC is in Lavender beds. Just tp to the house then exit the ward. Airships in this game is a pointless feature due to easy teleportation.
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02-22-2015, 05:01 AMWellFooledThe flying mounts will be released alongside new zones, which will no doubt be designed with flying mounts in mind. Even if there are zone lines that doesn't mean what's inside each zone won't be fun to explore while flying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tecprincesself
Just because some things aren't as useful at higher levels doesn't mean they should be removed from the game. We "outgrow" many things like quest hubs, chocobo porters, guildhests, and hundreds of pieces of gear...but the new players will still want these things and there are some veterans who enjoy airships (I have one in my FC, she uses airships to travel from city to city almost exclusively instead of teleporting) and features like them.Quote:
What is the point of having airships like lvl 15-17 story quests when you just teleport. Sure might be tiny pricey starting out, but around lvl 30, no longer useful. You make enough money you can just teleport.
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02-22-2015, 05:05 AMMistyMew
I cant wait for flying mounts!!! :D
There will be areas that a flying mount is needed to access certain areas/content
Personally I like the fact there are numerous ways to get about quickly, I use teles and the airships in this game. I didn't enjoy the 30 min run from Sandy to Jeuno ...even the 15 min chcocobo ride was enough for me and the 10-15 min wait for the ships...."crickets" (but that's just me).
In the good old days I didn't think much of it but after this many years of gaming I welcome fast transportation, its probably just my gaming age...:o -
02-22-2015, 05:09 AMTecprincesself
Fun yes, it would be no fun if they did not have flying mobs you had to doge. Maybe I am complicating things more. But the thrill of going in high end zone is well not dieing as you go through. If you can just fly over everything like in wow. The only thing I would love about the mounts is the views you can get of the settings around it.
One thing about airships in this game and one in FF11 is in FF11 You got to ride them and not have cut scenes then loading screen then back to cutscene.I guess times changes and I just got to move on. -
02-22-2015, 05:09 AMEcks007
The Aetherytes are not natural phenomenon, they are man-made contraptions. So as far as aetherytes and teleports in the sky/flying areas, I kinda think that there won't be any aetherytes since that would require us Eorzeans having been there before and therefor having already placed aetherytes in various locations.
It's unlikely (actually I think it's already been stated) that the flying mounts will work in the old areas and will only work in certain new areas (the sky zones). Making them (flying mounts) the only means of travel in the sky zones will make them necessary so that they are always being used.
From what we have seen so far the sky/flying zones seem to be rather large and made up of various flying/floating masses of land. I can easily imagine the only means of travel between them being your flying mount or the npc paid flying black chocobo that runs a predetermined course. So far, even the best made Airships have not been able to venture extremely high in the skies and have been unable to basically reach these new areas, though this could possibly change. If you've completed the Ixali beast tribe storyline then you know of a certain young heir who hasn't given up on his dream to make the best airship. That said, it might be possible he succeeds, with help from his Ixali pals, and further tweeks the progress that was made during the beast tribe questline. Hasn't happened yet, but who knows? The groundwork for the lore has been laid.
We might end up with perhaps 1 area that will have an aetheryte thoughout the whole sky zone, or each sky zone (if there ends up being more than one). The zones themselves have promised to be larger than anything we've seen so far so that part has me happy. I hope for some fun flying and exploration with perhaps some danger abound as well (so you better be careful where you land!).
Just to be clear, we won't have flying mounts in the old areas. Maybe you missed that memo. It's the new stuff where they will be used and relevant. -
02-22-2015, 05:13 AMFelisHow else would you reach a flying island with no aetherite on it? Flying mounts works only in the new zones, not in the old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tecprincesself
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02-22-2015, 05:13 AMTecprincesselfYeah, see Im from generation who have played original Everquest before it turned bad. When KOS was still had a meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by MistyMew
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02-22-2015, 05:18 AMTecprincesselfI did lol I am more interested in things like crafting, gathering and side stuff like Golden saucer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecks007
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02-22-2015, 05:20 AMEdwinLi
As other said the flying mounts will only be for the new areas and 2.0 area will not be able to use them.
The reason behind this is that the 3.0 areas are planned to have little amount of Aetherytes and a lot of land areas will require players to have a flying mount to reach since those areas are not close to any Aetherytes and are in areas that can't be reached by foot.
As for Personal Airships and FC Airships, during early info about them around 2.0 timeframe it was mentioned they had plans to make Personal and FC airship customizable. However, this plan may have changed due to time and resource reasons so take this promise with a bit of salt since things change a lot from their original plans. -
02-22-2015, 05:20 AMWellFooledI agree that danger in the open world is a lot of fun, but flying mounts can't take away what we don't already have. At level 50 there's no normally spawning monster in the game that can kill a player character, even if they gang up on us in huge groups. So it won't be as if flying mounts can make traveling through a zone any easier than it is already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tecprincesself
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02-22-2015, 05:41 AMkyuvenavoiding heavy status sounds like a nice perk at least >_>Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled
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02-22-2015, 08:26 AMWellFooledLet's not kid ourselves, there will probably be some kind of flying version of heavy ._.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuven
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02-22-2015, 08:31 AMGilthasThat's a terrible idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tecprincesself
Airships are still cheaper than teleporting (even if the gil required for teleports is next to nothing) but the main function of it is for immersion (as small as it is).
I actually still use airships and use my mounts to run around, but teleports are incredibly convenient when I'm short on time. I don't want to go back to a traveling system based on wasting your time.
As for the "thrill" of going through high level zones, that's a load of BS. I actually played FFXI for years. No one was going "MGSing through these zones is awesome!", but plenty were going "Who caught agro? *groan* Be careful and stop wasting our time." -
02-22-2015, 08:38 AMKeydahI didn't think of that. As long as it just slows us down and doesn't like, drop us out of the sky or something, I can manage. I'll grumble about it, but I'll manage. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled
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02-22-2015, 08:43 AMTerrini
Am I the only one that remembers YoshiP saying that Flying mounts will be Slow at the fanfests? Or has he since recanted? Because I'm sure I remember him saying they would just have walking and not running pace.
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02-22-2015, 08:48 AMWellFooledI'm not sure why, but something about that actually sounds amazing to me. Fly a little too close to the beastman stronghold and they start shooting things at you, get hit and you fall to your death...sounds fun :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Keydah
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02-22-2015, 09:10 AMChiiSoSeriouzTotally agree, i still use airships. I try to use teleports as little as possible. I liked 1.0 waiting for airships and ferries, and i understand others may not like the wait. I like the immersion and Eorzea's vast and beautiful landscape, so i prefer to take the longer route. To each their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled