T10, Electrofield, DRG, and Jumping

So in T10, the the main boss has the ability to put down an electric field under himself that damages anyone who steps into it. Unless the tank positions the boss perfectly after charges, which is not easy to do, the boss can be in a position where I cannot use jump abilities without landing in the electric field.

Landing in the electric field does not always cause me to take a tick of damage. The field causes a damage tick every 3 seconds on a global timer (much like DoT's tick on a global timer). It is very possible for me to jump, land in the field, and get back out between these ticks which results in me not taking any damage. I do this inadvertently all the time.

Is the timer that controls the electric field tick damage the same timer as the one that controls our party's DoT effects? Basically I want to try and see if i can use the DoT timer to safely time my jumps in and out of the electric field.

Any help with this would be great.

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Originally Posted by Tex_Mex

Stuff.

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Take it like a man. Or second wind. It works too.

Stop tanking it on the puddle and it won't be a problem.

What would you propose then? Constantly shift the raid?
No Nooo

Our DRG has never once complained about that, maybe you should find better tanks.

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Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys

What would you propose then? Constantly shift the raid?
No Nooo

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You move it over slightly after a charge. Leaves an entire side free of electrofield.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

You move it over slightly after a charge. Leaves an entire side free of electrofield.

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This, or take it like a man. It's only a 2.5k-3k tick. It's nothing. Bloodbath + Life Surge is enough to recover it all back.

Im not so much worried about taking a tick WHILE doing any jumps, more on taking a tick if if get knocked back into it after tether lol

To answer your question: no, field effects do not share the same time as your own DoT/HoT effects. Everything in the instance has its own 'pulse.' The illusion of a global timer is created because all players are placed into the instance at the same time, thus share a pulse timer. Effects like Flame Arrow and Imdugud's puddle have their own pulse once created.

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Originally Posted by Orlandeu

Im not so much worried about taking a tick WHILE doing any jumps, more on taking a tick if if get knocked back into it after tether lol

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Pretty sure you won't be dealing with the aoe field during a cyclone of chaos. Personally I've never had this problem (DRG). Never got knocked into a cleave or tail swipe either.

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

Pretty sure you won't be dealing with the aoe field during a cyclone of chaos. Personally I've never had this problem (DRG). Never got knocked into a cleave or tail swipe either.

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I've died a few times getting knocked into it, so it does happen :P

I think the only issue this brings is if you're targered for prey

I've cleared T10 many times as my raid's DRG. I've never had the issues you're describing. I do, however, understand what you're getting at, and I think I might have a few suggestions for you.

1) Keep at your maximum melee range. Yes, the boss's puddle is obnoxiously large, but you can still reach it without landing in it. I've used all 3 of our jumps and never had an issue.

2) If your tank isn't able to make any changes, try and make them yourself. Find a different angle from which to attack. Look for a side in which the puddle isn't as deep.

I've used my jumps to get out of the outer ring AoE, and to move from add group to add group. Otherwise, I'm just using my normal OGCD Jump. I hope these help, and good luck!

Honestly I usually just wait for the pool to go away, never been a problem. Yea I'll probably jump a couple of times less total in the fight than I would have otherwise, not really that big a deal.

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Originally Posted by Leareaux

To answer your question: no, field effects do not share the same time as your own DoT/HoT effects. Everything in the instance has its own 'pulse.' The illusion of a global timer is created because all players are placed into the instance at the same time, thus share a pulse timer. Effects like Flame Arrow and Imdugud's puddle have their own pulse once created.

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Awesome, this is what I was looking for. Thanks for the information. :)

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Originally Posted by Ramath

1) Keep at your maximum melee range. Yes, the boss's puddle is obnoxiously large, but you can still reach it without landing in it. I've used all 3 of our jumps and never had an issue.

2) If your tank isn't able to make any changes, try and make them yourself. Find a different angle from which to attack. Look for a side in which the puddle isn't as deep.

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1) This doesnt help me at all since I never am just standing in the puddle. The only time I enter is while jumping, which will happen regardless of how far away I am (jump always takes you to the exact edge of the bosses target reticle.
2) This could be done, but space around the boss in T10 is usually pretty precious due to us having 2 melee DPS. If i swap sides, I would have to coordinate it with our MNK. This is definitely doable though. I will have to give it a try.

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Originally Posted by Ash_Smokespear

Honestly I usually just wait for the pool to go away, never been a problem. Yea I'll probably jump a couple of times less total in the fight than I would have otherwise, not really that big a deal.

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This is what I normally do, and you are right. It's not that big of a deal, I am just seeing if I can push my DPS further :)

We've been dealing with this since FCOB first hit. You will sometimes take the tick during jump but your healers should be able to handle this, just dont use it while heat lightning or other damage is on the way out.

Yes, you can time jumps inbetween the tics, as stated above they are not always in sync with other tics. (And even if you get hit bb+ls+ft recovers about 1k hp by itself so it is water under the bridge)
As far as the tether concerns, if tou stand right on the target you get pushed a seemingly random direction, if you stand close enough to get hit but not on them you can control the direction you get pushed. I generally line up on a diagonal and it will push me back to flank position without any further correction needed.

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Originally Posted by Orlandeu

I've died a few times getting knocked into it, so it does happen :P

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Ok fair enough. Personally never had this issue but guess your doing something that would warrant it? Also..

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Originally Posted by Lollie

Yes, you can time jumps inbetween the tics, as stated above they are not always in sync with other tics. (And even if you get hit bb+ls+ft recovers about 1k hp by itself so it is water under the bridge)
As far as the tether concerns, if tou stand right on the target you get pushed a seemingly random direction, if you stand close enough to get hit but not on them you can control the direction you get pushed. I generally line up on a diagonal and it will push me back to flank position without any further correction needed.

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this basically sums up my experience as well. If you take a tick, its not a problem just pop Second Wind and/or Bloodbath, and don't stack right on top of the Cyclone target. I always get blasted back in the direction I came from (the 10 o'clock position) when I run in for tether. Maybe try adjusting your position on this? I really think your putting to much stock into something you cannot control; the global dot tick.