Roulettes really need fixing.

I have no motivation to get the rest of my tomes this week.

Two weeks ago:
AK
AK
AK
Keeper
AK

Last week:
AK
AK
AK
WP
WP

After one dungeon this week of it being another AK, I'm done. I just can't do this anymore. I need a break.

I have been trying duty roulette and all im getting is

AK
AK
AK
AK
AK

I'm sick of this, is the hardest dungeon ever, harder than t5, everytime roulette gives me AK I'm leaving, prefer the 30 min pen than doing this.

Fix this crap

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Originally Posted by Gumiho

I have been trying duty roulette and all im getting is

AK
AK
AK
AK
AK

I'm sick of this, is the hardest dungeon ever, harder than t5, everytime roulette gives me AK I'm leaving, prefer the 30 min pen than doing this.

Fix this crap

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You think AK is harder then T5? In what and how? I find the dungeon easy. What to you makes the dungeon hard? AK HM is easy.

Also the Roulette is fine. What be the problem with it?

AK is the new Sastasha in this expert roulette set the one that nobody really enjoys as much as the other two. I think what happens is that the duty servers only have so many slots for runs at one time and because it's the least popular one that people won't choose to run as much as the other two outside of roulette then there are a lot more slots open for AK increasing the chance of getting it when you queue for all three at once. The DF first tries to fill a party then it reserves an instance so it'll only put you in an available slot. This is why sometimes a full party in the queue for one thing can actually have to wait a while for others to finish and free up slots.

The statement that it's hard is kind of funny. AKHM isn't difficult at all same with Sastasha HM it's just really boring.

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Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess

You think AK is harder then T5? In what and how? I find the dungeon easy. What to you makes the dungeon hard? AK HM is easy.

Also the Roulette is fine. What be the problem with it?

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Easier than what? T5 and T6 pre nerf are easier than this overtuned dungeon, whats the purpose of a roulette if the odds of getting AK are 90%, it should be renamed as daily AK

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Originally Posted by Gumiho

Easier than what? T5 and T6 pre nerf are easier than this overtuned dungeon, whats the purpose of a roulette if the odds of getting AK are 90%, it should be renamed as daily AK

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What is hard about AKHM?

Sastasha HM was difficult because the DPS check was literally impossible at ilvl 80 (The intended level, where gear inside is an upgrade). I don't recall AKHM having anything that tough... Maybe the Wildcard section of the final boss, but that's it.

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

What is hard about AKHM?

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I've had quite a few parties that can't meet the dps checks. demon wall and ferdiad definitely aren't balanced around i90

AK is hardly hard... in fact the only time I've had a group die to the demon walls was the first day, we went in again all getting ready for a super DPS check just to find that it didn't even reset everything.... just gave us the time but left us with only three mobs. Very nice of it, actually.

Not to mention you can still attack while being trapped in the jelly during Ferdiad. Ranged = no problem.

I'm going to express a similar sentiment...

How is AK HM actually hard? I think I've had a failure rate of around maybe 10% on the first time for the DPS checks, and never wiped a second time.

Oh well, to each their own. I get WP most of the time in the Exp Roulette.

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Originally Posted by Gumiho

Easier than what? T5 and T6 pre nerf are easier than this overtuned dungeon, whats the purpose of a roulette if the odds of getting AK are 90%, it should be renamed as daily AK

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Wow...not sure if trolling or retarded...ak hm is easy as f*** and pre nerf t5 was only killed by 1 Group in the whole world....yea you´re right -.-

I always get KotL and by far is the most annoying of the new dungeons. I get WP and KotL all the time. It is a roulette so someone is going to have an imbalance of one dungeon or another.

Also AKHM is not hard.

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Originally Posted by aisustrong

I've had quite a few parties that can't meet the dps checks. demon wall and ferdiad definitely aren't balanced around i90

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Gear isn't really a huge reason for failure by the time it was released nearly everyone has over 100ilvl who is doing it. I've seen one party who screwed this stuff up and it was mainly to the DPS just not being effective at doing damage not because of their gear. A lot of people panic on Ferdiad on that second wildcard and start trying to free both people before getting rid of the add to stop the AoE growing. The second guy can get himself out easily your priority is first person who is fettered and then the Add powering the boss.

I personally think the problem is just a lack of variety. Three new dungeons always replace the old dungeons, and selecting from a pool of three will always leave a stale taste in your mouth when you're done.
I don't see any reason why Snowcloak, Sastasha Hard, and Qarn Hard aren't still Expert dungeons. It's not like they're easymode never wipe ever dungeons.

I've only done all of them once. I hate df and I hate roulette lol

I think the way "roulette" works is that it takes the least popular duty (the one that the least amount of people are queueing SPECIFICALLY for) and puts you in that.

However, I do agree, if it does work like I suspect, I think there should be an equal chance that you get any of the duties listed. However, I think along side that, I think they should remove the adventurer in need bonus from the roulette, and make "Adventurer in Need" it's own queue with it's own reward. You don't know what duty you're going to get, but it is the one the least amount of people (of your specific role) are queueing for. Perhaps you could exclude DPS from this queue, though. They're USUALLY not needed.

Duty Roulette can be equated to that hostess at a restaurant who tries to seat you at a table next to one with a screaming baby at it, rather than one of the 5 other available tables further away that you'd rather have, just so they can offload it on the first person who will take it. And then if you say 'No not that one, I don't want First Available now, I want that one over there.' they make you stand around waiting for 30 minutes.

Hmm odd, AK HM is actually used to farm poetic tomes on my sever, mostly because it's the easiest with KOTL being the annoying one.. I'm actually happy to get it as I hate WP HM and KOTL is boring >.>

Though I have noticed roul doesn't appear to be as random as it's made out to be >.>

Really? I enjoy AK HM the best, I dislike KotL with a passion though and WP isn't far behind.

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Originally Posted by KikoriL

I personally think the problem is just a lack of variety. Three new dungeons always replace the old dungeons, and selecting from a pool of three will always leave a stale taste in your mouth when you're done.
I don't see any reason why Snowcloak, Sastasha Hard, and Qarn Hard aren't still Expert dungeons. It's not like they're easymode never wipe ever dungeons.

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Bingo it's so mindnumbing doing the same dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Lethallin

I'm going to express a similar sentiment...

How is AK HM actually hard? I think I've had a failure rate of around maybe 10% on the first time for the DPS checks, and never wiped a second time.

Oh well, to each their own. I get WP most of the time in the Exp Roulette.

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I agree Ak HM hard? when?
Tho I gotta say after 2 weeks i stopped doing Dr expert because all I get is WP >.> and there gotta say was in with a offclass smn and a newly i90 smn.... we wiped first boss a few times due to low dps lol
(But i guess I should do dr expert again because need those alex.. *sigh* )

I keep getting WP HM and have stopped with ex roulette. I like Keeper, Ak HM is fun with a good group but I rarely ever get either one. Same reason I stopped the low level roulettes Cutters Cry everyday. Forget it. Would be nice if they built something in that prevents you from getting the samething everyday, though harder to do with ex roulette since there are only 3 choices.

It's not just Ex-Roulette. Whenever tank is needed in Trial Roulette, I get Garuda 80% of the time (6 times in a row now). Joined as healer when it was needed, got Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh.
Maybe it depends on your class/role?

I can see AK HM being hard with 2 SMN and healer/tank not helping with adds...

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Originally Posted by Shikiseki

I can see AK HM being hard with 2 SMN and healer/tank not helping with adds...

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I was on full dps gear without defiance and the whm also put dps where he could and after 3 wipes we made it but yes its a pain... dots tick too slow for first boss DPS check :o

Ex roulette has 2 outcomes

1) Get a good team (about 30% of the time)
2) Get a decent team - a team that at least have done the instance and don't need babysitting
3) A baddie team - DPS who can't even reach 300 DPS to save their lives, and/or people who cannot/choose not to learn the proper mechanics on doing boss fights.

I'm still having nightmares of a SMN during Ex roulette who, after at least 6 wipes + my explanation on how to do the mechanics goes and says "I don't understand..."

Nothing to fix, when you clicked that roulette - you gave yourself to be put it any of the 3 dungeons - whether you like it or not - whether that's the only one you get or not.

And my god people thinking AKHM is actually hard...

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Nothing to fix, when you clicked that roulette - you gave yourself to be put it any of the 3 dungeons - whether you like it or not - whether that's the only one you get or not.

And my god people thinking AKHM is actually hard...

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garunteed wipe if your dps is bad, no way around it

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Originally Posted by aisustrong

garunteed wipe if your dps is bad, no way around it

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Don't have bad dps then.

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Originally Posted by Hiruke

Don't have bad dps then.

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ive been in full control of doody finder this whole time?
well damn

They just need to make it more than 3 dungeons. Keep the 3 from this patch and the 3 from the last, I'd be happy with that. 2.3 I got Hullbreaker every time, 2.4 I got Snowcloak every time, this one I seem to get a pretty decent mix for once.

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Originally Posted by aisustrong

garunteed wipe if your dps is bad, no way around it

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Well sort of. Even a group with poor DPS can scrape through. If you have a decent WHM it helps because holy spam is so good on trash mobs and adds.

I've had no problems that I can recall on AK. I prefer it or WP to KotL in any case. The final boss is just too much running around avoiding too many simultaneous AoEs. None of the dungeons seem to have any difficult DPS/ heal checks. It is annoying getting the same one all the time, but even if all things were equal (they're not exactly) you've got a 33% chance at getting each dungeon every time. It's not especially unusual to get the same one repeatedly because the pool is so small. Personally I've been getting a decent enough mixture. With there only being 3 if you dislike one it will feel like you get it more frequently than the others even if that's not the case (and it very well might happen anyway).

Low level roulette as tank used to be 90% DD, now it's 95% DD/AV. At least the expert dungeons cycle out each major patch.

The way duty roulettes work basically just matches you into forming parties of people that had specific-queued, and if it cant find any, it picks at random.
Roulettes exist to keep people filtering into content so that the queue for something like Levi HM isn't 3+ hours.

I came.
I saw "Oh AKHM is hard!"
I laughed http://i.imgur.com/8FxEa.gif

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Originally Posted by RayneBoemir

Really? I enjoy AK HM the best, I dislike KotL with a passion though and WP isn't far behind.

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They're all great dungeons, but that doesn't mean I want to do the same one every day for 3 weeks straight. Even Main Story has more variety.

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Originally Posted by Gorvi

They just need to make it more than 3 dungeons. Keep the 3 from this patch and the 3 from the last, I'd be happy with that. 2.3 I got Hullbreaker every time, 2.4 I got Snowcloak every time, this one I seem to get a pretty decent mix for once.

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I would be fine with this. Then when a new set of dungeons comes out, move the oldest three dungeons to High Level Roulette.

AK
AK
AK
AK
WP
AK
AK
AK
WP
AK

I barely even do expert roulette anymore, but all I keep getting is AK and a random WP every now and then. Why is the exp roulette only 3 dungeons anyway. '.__.

When I queue for Low-level Roulette:
AV
HM
TTTD
AV
HM
AV
HM
AV
HM

This might be because the zodiac quest line. AK and WP are part of the quest line. Also, many new players may be on their first relic quest. This might be the issue here. Remember the Roulette is based on what people are sitting in the Q for. Its not really much of a roulette. lol