Lets Talk: The two un-named Citystates to the North...

Is anyone else curious as what the other two city states in the North are?
Theres one to the West of Ishgard and one to the East almost parallel with Gridania, having not played 1.0 I'm not sure if they've named in the past or not.

Is the one to the East Ala Mhigo? And the one to the West the Dravanian capital?

(see in-game map and you'll see what I mean)

This has been on my mind for a while and as we draw nearer to Havensward I've been wondering if these are two new citystates for us to explore along with the confirmed Ishgard.

I think you're talking about Xelphatol (east of ishhgard)- land of the ixal

Then there's dravania (west) land of dravania/dragon

The one up at the far north west is Sharlayan

The eastern one is indeed Ala Mhigo. The western one that lies in the heart of Dravania was the Sharlayan colony but it was abandoned when Ala Mhigo fell to the Garleans.

Got some nice map with descriptions:
https://wiki.ffxiv-roleplayers.com/i...036!Eorzea.jpg

Also,Doerthas=Coerthas, must be miss-click :p

Ah thanks guys, I love the lore of XIV so getting to know these things is nice :D

Still begs the question, will we be getting to see these places in-game with the new expansion pack o_0 I'm hoping so because as much as I'm looking forward to Ishgard I find the whole religous fanaticism surrounding the place a little bit of a downer myself, so I'm hoping a few more cities or something like that.

I think all places of Eorzean map will be implemented in Heavensward or max in next after that expansion, later simply we got another map with other Hydelyn region cause devs simply run out of places in Eorzea in, as i say, one or two expansions.

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Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko

Still begs the question, will we be getting to see these places in-game with the new expansion pack o_0

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First expansion is Ishgard, the north-west (dravania) and the sky. Nothing said about the north-east (xephatol, ala mhigo) yet; you might guess it would be in expansion #2 a couple years later, unless the first expansion covers more ground than they have let us know so far. If you kept going north-east past ala mhigo you would cross a bridge over to the continent to where the Garlean Empire is based, and further east somewhere is another continent under Garlean occupation where Doma is located (ninjas).

Reason I wonder about the two other cities is that I read sometime ago that Yoshi wants as much content in the expansion as they was in the relaunch (ARR), since we have three city states at launch and now Ishgard comfirmed it makes me wonder if he's planning to fleshout the other two cities/settlements that are clearly visable on the map afterall they've been visable since 2.0.

If I can find the article were he says he wants as much content as launch I'll re-post it, but I've had to rebuild my PC since 2.0 came out [yay for fatal hardware failure huh] and I lost all my bookmarks from web pages :/

Also makes me wonder about Jobs as well, we have three confirmed does that mean he's keeping one or two more up his sleeves for an annoucement soon... given how we're getting close to launch (couple months) the info we have seems a little thin on the ground so I'm hoping he's gonna drop an info-bombshell soon :D

Well since Dravania is confirmed for 3.0 we will likely get into Sharlayan as well.

Wait, didn't the Sharlying abandon their colony in the mainland Eorzea (near dravania) and moved back to their Island. It gets confusing since both are named Sharlayan.

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Originally Posted by myahele

Wait, didn't the Sharlying abandon their colony in the mainland Eorzea (near dravania) and moved back to their Island. It gets confusing since both are named Sharlayan.

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Yes, they did; with the exception being the Circle of Knowing.

I'm really interested in seeing the abandoned colony (although it's probably now inhabited by someone else). I really hope some of its original architecture is still intact, because it could provide some insight into what Sharlayan proper looks like.

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Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko

Also makes me wonder about Jobs as well, we have three confirmed does that mean he's keeping one or two more up his sleeves for an annoucement soon... given how we're getting close to launch (couple months) the info we have seems a little thin on the ground so I'm hoping he's gonna drop an info-bombshell soon :D

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Yes, the info-bombshell will be soon i think at PAX EAST we got more information:
http://east.paxsite.com/schedule/pan...-naoki-yoshida

7 march 12-1 PM bombshell kaa-Boom

So here's what's fun about Ala Mhigo. Since the beginning of 2.0, you can see it's borders but no one has ever really talked about it, probably cause it's out of the way. If you run to the farthest Northeast corner of East Shroud's map (Goldleaf Dais), look eastward through the trees. This is the only location this wall exists, but it's distinctive enough. If you're lucky and have lightning weather, you can see it even better since the weather effect is always misty.

Originally I thought it was just a Castrum and dismissed it, but the map has a bit of land that extends further than Goldleaf just south and there's no wall at all to connect to the Castrum. There's also a path blocked with a few fallen trees up in Goldleaf that could easily become a zone connection.

the regions without a city are just regions.

The still missing city states are Sharlayan in Dravania and Ala Mhigo in Gyn Abania.

Xelphatol is the exil home of the Ixal, Paglth'an is Amalj'aa homeland and O'Ghomoro (the northern half of Vylbrand) is Kobold land

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...aps-eorzea.jpg


Ala Mhigo artwork from the ARR CE artbook:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/1630yf.jpg

I think Ala Mhigo come with 4.0 or 5.0

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Originally Posted by Spiral

So here's what's fun about Ala Mhigo. Since the beginning of 2.0, you can see it's borders but no one has ever really talked about it, probably cause it's out of the way.

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Remember when people would go to the northern tip of Cyrodiil and Oblivion and cry sad tears prior to the release of Skyrim? Then when Skyrim was released it looked nothing like the border at all. That is the equivalent.

It is pointless to think what you see over the border of an "older game" will be relevent to the future.

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Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko

Reason I wonder about the two other cities is that I read sometime ago that Yoshi wants as much content in the expansion as they was in the relaunch (ARR),

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Just because he wants this to happen, doesn't mean it will happen.

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Originally Posted by SekhmetM

Remember when people would go to the northern tip of Cyrodiil and Oblivion and cry sad tears prior to the release of Skyrim? Then when Skyrim was released it looked nothing like the border at all. That is the equivalent.

It is pointless to think what you see over the border of an "older game" will be relevent to the future.


Just because he wants this to happen, doesn't mean it will happen.

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http://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comme...0_heavensward/

Already confirmed...

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Originally Posted by Spiral

So here's what's fun about Ala Mhigo. Since the beginning of 2.0, you can see it's borders but no one has ever really talked about it, probably cause it's out of the way. If you run to the farthest Northeast corner of East Shroud's map (Goldleaf Dais), look eastward through the trees. This is the only location this wall exists, but it's distinctive enough. If you're lucky and have lightning weather, you can see it even better since the weather effect is always misty.

Originally I thought it was just a Castrum and dismissed it, but the map has a bit of land that extends further than Goldleaf just south and there's no wall at all to connect to the Castrum. There's also a path blocked with a few fallen trees up in Goldleaf that could easily become a zone connection.

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Thanks man, I'll check that later on, have a few things to do in Shroud anyway :)

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Originally Posted by Felis

the regions without a city are just regions.

The still missing city states are Sharlayan in Dravania and Ala Mhigo in Gyn Abania.

Xelphatol is the exil home of the Ixal, Paglth'an is Amalj'aa homeland and O'Ghomoro (the northern half of Vylbrand) is Kobold land

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/images/maps...aps-eorzea.jpg


Ala Mhigo artwork from the ARR CE artbook:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/1630yf.jpg

I think Ala Mhigo come with 4.0 or 5.0

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Oh I have the CE but I didnt open the artbook, I want some gloves before I touch it lol (obessive haha).

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Originally Posted by Spiral

So here's what's fun about Ala Mhigo. Since the beginning of 2.0, you can see it's borders but no one has ever really talked about it, probably cause it's out of the way. If you run to the farthest Northeast corner of East Shroud's map (Goldleaf Dais), look eastward through the trees. This is the only location this wall exists, but it's distinctive enough. If you're lucky and have lightning weather, you can see it even better since the weather effect is always misty.

Originally I thought it was just a Castrum and dismissed it, but the map has a bit of land that extends further than Goldleaf just south and there's no wall at all to connect to the Castrum. There's also a path blocked with a few fallen trees up in Goldleaf that could easily become a zone connection.

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Goldleaf Dais is likely to lead to Sylphlands proper (each beast tribe is meant to get its own full on zone eventually iirc). Gyn Abania and Ala Mhigo will almost certainly be accessed through the wreckage around X:34 Y:20 where you can see a very obvious path and get a better look at the wall.

I think Ala Mhigo is more beautiful than Ishgard. Ishgard is a nice fantasy vista but for me it looks cold (well it should look like this) and too dark. I like it don't get me wrong but judging from the artwork Ala Mhigo is much more beautiful or at least it was before Garleans destroyed it. I think many must noticed that the Eorzea map resembles our real world. Eorzea continent resembles Africa a lot and the narrow land which leads to the Garlean Empire resembles Saudi Arabia. This can be also the reason FFXIV put the Domans in the East. So you can only imagine the missing continents and the wonders they hide. But I guess we have to deal with the Garleans first before we move over to new continents.

That huge wall was actually built by Gridanians to keep the Ala Mhigans out when they were at war with them a long time ago. But yes, those are the borders. Too bad Ala Mhigo will probably look like any Garlean Castrum, but just with more snow.

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Originally Posted by Nalien

Goldleaf Dais is likely to lead to Sylphlands proper (each beast tribe is meant to get its own full on zone eventually iirc). Gyn Abania and Ala Mhigo will almost certainly be accessed through the wreckage around X:34 Y:20 where you can see a very obvious path and get a better look at the wall.

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Oh that'd be cool! I was hoping the Beast Tribes would be developed more, I enjoyed the beast quest storylines (daily quest) but still have the Ixial (N.Shroud) to start.

@Riardon I agree Ishard looks nice but a little depressing to me too, I hope the new zones around it are better then Coerthas as thats a little cold/bland for my tastes, also the music is a downer too :( Hopefully Ala Mhigo when we get there (hopefully this year!) will be more cheerful.