Crafting HQ conversion, how will it be done?

So as we know, items are going from the +1/2/3 system into a straight NQ/HQ system

my question that I would really like to see forwarded to yoshi...

How will this transition take place?
What will happen to our current HQ items?
Will the old HQ magicaly become new HQ items? or will we have to trade them in? or will they just all become normals?

would hope that if a item is of the hq variety now it would transition into hq status under the new system.

I don't doubt you, but can you link the info that states that ALL items will become either NQ or HQ. Last i saw read it was still Gathering and crafting created +1+2+3 and Mobs dropped +1 or +3.

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Originally Posted by Celtodeno

I don't doubt you, but can you link the info that states that ALL items will become either NQ or HQ. Last i saw read it was still Gathering and crafting created +1+2+3 and Mobs dropped +1 or +3.

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its near the last page of the 800 post crafting thread floating around here, go check it out(official translations by our community rep state it)

Looks like alot of current recipes might become obsolete too if the cobalt recipe is any indication.

Yep found it.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...704#post307704

Quite excellent. Seems I can't keep up with all the new information. Thanks for bringing it my attention

Maybe a similar merge as to what was done with monster drops:

NQ/+1 = NQ with new stats closer to +1 (5% bonus) to appease the masses.
+2/+3 = HQ with new stats closer to +3 to appease the few.

As much as I thought the +1/2/3 system was a bad idea when FFXIV was first released, I really like and enjoy it now. Especially with 3 alt/mules on a free buddy pass acct to help manage it all. I'll miss the old system, but I know its a necessary change to streamline the game's crafting/itemization bloat.

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Originally Posted by Chiz

Maybe a similar merge as to what was done with monster drops:

NQ/+1 = NQ with new stats closer to +1 (5% bonus) to appease the masses.
+2/+3 = HQ with new stats closer to +3 to appease the few.

As much as I thought the +1/2/3 system was a bad idea when FFXIV was first released, I really like and enjoy it now. Especially with 3 alt/mules on a free buddy pass acct to help manage it all. I'll miss the old system, but I know its a necessary change to streamline the game's crafting/itemization bloat.

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just an fyi

there was never a merge with the old mats, the old mats still exist
they just dont drop anymore

and that is my concern

what will a +1/2/3 material do with the new system if it changes to NQ/HQ only?

He already posted +1's will be NQ, +2 and +3 will be HQ.

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Originally Posted by Madruk

He already posted +1's will be NQ, +2 and +3 will be HQ.

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actualy, he didnt

when they did the last conversion, the items that dropped followed that new rule
the items people already had didnt change at all

and there is nothing in the new posts stating how itl work yet

I want to know what's going to happen to the stats of HQ items. Will a Crab Bow +3 for example be nerfed when it becomes just HQ? I mean how will the star system be replaced?

Also how is SE going to keep such things rare? Turning +2s into the same kind of HQs as +3s would be ridiculous considering there's probably 20 times as many +2 bows around as +3s. So this leads me to believe only +3s should become HQ items under the new system.

I preferred the system as it is. +3s are something to work hard for or something the rich can buy, while almost everyone else can settle for a +2 and new players can settle for NQs and +1s. Simplifying it like this means either everyone is going to have an HQ or only the rich and hard workers are going to have them.

Q: With current materials that already exists would the +3 be considered HQ or will it be NQ? Wondering about this part. Like before the monster dropped materials being NQ or +3 will this be applied to current +3, +2 becoming HQ and +1 being NQ?

A: Yes, that basics are just like you imagined, the goal is to combine as much as possible but at which line (+3 and +2 being HQ others being NQ) will have to be decided by adjusted by looking at the item circulation rate from logs.

Reinhart's translation. I don't really see them doing a case by case basis on every single item.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

just an fyi

there was never a merge with the old mats, the old mats still exist
they just dont drop anymore

and that is my concern

what will a +1/2/3 material do with the new system if it changes to NQ/HQ only?

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I was referring to the loot table percentages: old NQ/+1 resulted in an NQ drop, old +2/+3 resulted in a +3 drop. They might use this as a template of what might potentially happen to existing +1/2/3 finished items. I can't imagine they would allow +3 to be "relics" of an old crafting system to co-exist with the new generic HQ items, especially if the +3 stats are better.

As for what happens to old +materials and recipes, I would imagine they eventually stop working which would be in-line with the last Producer's Letter and the newly translated post. So 1.19 will be new recipes with overlapping old recipes. 1.20 they will co-exist. 1.21 will be new HQ system only?

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Originally Posted by Chiz

I was referring to the loot table percentages: old NQ/+1 resulted in an NQ drop, old +2/+3 resulted in a +3 drop. They might use this as a template of what might potentially happen to existing +1/2/3 finished items. I can't imagine they would allow +3 to be "relics" of an old crafting system to co-exist with the new generic HQ items, especially if the +3 stats are better.

As for what happens to old +materials and recipes, I would imagine they eventually stop working which would be in-line with the last Producer's Letter and the newly translated post. So 1.19 will be new recipes with overlapping old recipes. 1.20 they will co-exist. 1.21 will be new HQ system only?

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i know thats the old system
i was looking for something "official" (no offense to the translators we have among the players) so that we knew for sure what would be happening with this change in specific

This is a big issue, I hope they go the rout to streamline everything down as its overly complicated.
+2/3 => HQ
nq/+1 => NQ

Yes a +3 is very very hard to get but there is at least 2 different rates of HQ on finished products it is many times easier to HQ+3 a finished weapon vs the odds of HQ+3 something like silver nuggets. Of a sample size of say 100 synths all with over 300quality the weapon might HQ+3 10 times. The nugget might HQ 1 time or even zero times (I expect its less then 1% rate)

I hope we get some kind of a post to better explain whats going to happen this affects many ppl in my shell who are working on +3 for weapons.

I am pretty sure he stated that +1 will become NQs and that +3 will become HQs.

+2 it's not decided yet as they have to look the item logs to see the number of +2s in circulation. If there are too many +2s then expect +2 to be NQs as well.

This is the way I read it:

Only mats/ingredients are becoming NQ/HQ. Final products can still be +1+2+3 by this procedure:

Taking a HQ gear (sword+1) and combining it with another item will turn it into a sword+2 and so on by means of a higher level recipe.

I could be wrong, but again that's just the way I read it. Based on what he said here:

Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida:

"In addition, there will be higher level synthesis recipes that use “Cobalt Sabatons” as an ingredient. In this case, if “Cobalt Sabatons HQ” is used as an ingredient along with other HQ ingredients, an even higher level HQ item can be crafted"

Meaning your +2 and +3's ????

Would like a Rep to clarify this.