5mil gil gone in 2 steps

Please please please se add some way inorder to save current progress in a synth.
Whether just a safe mode you can activate when using expensive mats, i dont care if this prolongs the time it takes to make that synth but losing mats to a dc is depressing.
I rarely ever dc, im mainly a pvp player and my connection never has issues with 72 man front lines etc
I was attempting my first primal weapon last night (blm mogstaff) hit CZ > IQ then dc :(

ouch!
thats harsh man... /comfort

ya some protection against DCing should be implemented if mats can get THAT expencive o,.,o;;;

The issues as they have said was there isn't really a way to guard against people if they know they are going to fail the synth to just pull the plug to simulate a DC.

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

The issues as they have said was there isn't really a way to guard against people if they know they are going to fail the synth to just pull the plug to simulate a DC.

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Unless they make DC = pause the crafts current progress etc.

If each step is saved this will prevent against people abusing it, i.e hasty touch > sent to server > fail sent back saved or however it works idk, im sure there's a very simple way to impletement this. When your doing 30+ steps per synth its ridiculous that not at least 1 of them are saved

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

The issues as they have said was there isn't really a way to guard against people if they know they are going to fail the synth to just pull the plug to simulate a DC.

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While this is one of the primary points to people that are against DC protection, how is it abusable if the game would theoretically save/pause your current craft the way it is when the DC occurred? The game already logs in all your steps and their results, as well as your buffs (although they do tick realtime). Hell, my game even remembers if I logged off while mounted, and logs me back in on that same mount.

It just seems like a big oversight to let something like that go by, especially when they keep introducing large profile crafts that either cost millions in materials, or are time gated by the sealants.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Unless they make DC = pause the crafts current progress etc.

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I guess that could be a solution. However I have to wonder how often does the game save data, or how does it save server side? I mean is it saving data every second or minute or what. I don't know how that works. I've been in situations where I have had a DC and when I log back in my character is in a different spot from where the DC happened, as if it reverted back to the last save.

So if that is true then one could still use a DC to their advantage. If its looking like a synth may fail or you don't like how its going you could DC the game in hopes that the last save was a few steps ago so when you get back in, the pause picks up at last save say a few steps back. But again I'm not sure how often data is saved.

That is a concern eye_gore that it will be abused if not probably impletemented however due to the natural of crafting steps the method used should save every step of progress not just random steps here and there.
I dont understand the whole packet blah blah server stuff, but whether this should only save when crafting 1*+ to prevent against server overload (unsure how often it saves generally)
i had massive connection issues at my last house, whenever i would start to dc i could still receive fc chat text etc and move but the funny thing is where ever i stood as the 90k error popped i would log back in at so ever during that dc phase there was some sort of saving going on during the save which lead me to beleive client side?

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

I guess that could be a solution. However I have to wonder how often does the game save data, or how does it save server side? I mean is it saving data every second or minute or what. I don't know how that works.

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I don't know, but i've bought items on the MB and DC'd right away and the item was in my bags when i re-logged, so must be very frequently.

Made one just now finally 82% nq but tbh just practicing atm as this was purely for glamour, really should at least get artisan main hand lol i crafted a hq artisan offhand for crp
But learnt what progress i need :)

I'm not very tech savvy. But try to imagine thousands and thousands of "crafting saves" it adds up on their server and I can only imagine over time it can really cause some problems. it may appear the simple solution is for SE to just have our synths saved to their servers, but it is not as simple as we may believe it to be. I'm sure they have discussed this and on day they will be able to come up with a solution. Till than were just going to have to clench our teeth and hope we don't disconnect.

And to the OP- really sorry this happened to you. I know I would be enraged..to say the least.

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Originally Posted by Lemuel81

I'm not very tech savvy. But try to imagine thousands and thousands of "crafting saves" it adds up on their server and I can only imagine over time it can really cause some problems.

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They are already saving everything, the results of our crafts are saved the moment we finish, loot people get, gear we are weating, etc, etc, so I doubt it would take up that much more resources.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

They are already saving everything, the results of our crafts are saved the moment we finish, loot people get, gear we are weating, etc, etc, so I doubt it would take up that much more resources.

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Well they are struggling to make more items storeable in the armorie due to data constraints...

on a per person basis saving each step doesn't seem like much but considering there is thousands of people doing various things constantly, adding to the server load for a random small chance to dc mid craft just isn't worth the extra resources needed by the servers too implement it.

you just have to chalk it up to bad luck like the nq I just got from a 87% chance to hq a foragers scythe, cost me 1mil near enough to attempt came out nq and they sell for 250k so big lose for me but oh well not worth dwelling on cus it doesn't happen often,

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They are already saving everything, the results of our crafts are saved the moment we finish, loot people get, gear we are weating, etc, etc, so I doubt it would take up that much more resources.

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and they are struggling as it is. You'd be surprised on how much more space it would take, nonetheless I agree with whats said but in order for them to do that they would seriously need to upgrade their equipment. Im guessing by the time 3.0 comes out they are going to have no choice.

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and they are struggling as it is. You'd be surprised on how much more space it would take, nonetheless I agree with whats said but in order for them to do that they would seriously need to upgrade their equipment. Im guessing by the time 3.0 comes out they are going to have no choice.

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Much smaller f2p games manage just fine, so tbh I don't see why a company as big as this should have such issues? The game seems to be doing very well financilly.

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Much smaller f2p games manage just fine, so tbh I don't see why a company as big as this should have such issues? The game seems to be doing very well financilly.

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their cheap and don't want to cough up the money heh. I dont know who the owner of SE is, but coming from a buisiness standpoint they don't want to spend more than they have to. Eventually they will need to upgrade their hardware. Im also wondering if it has to do with consoles. One of the biggest mistakes in my opinion is making this game for playstation platform. They have limited their games (addons ex) because playstation users won't be able to handle it.

Tbh we don't really know what is planned behind the scenes. Im pretty confident they will address this issue eventually. Because if they do not, they are going to lose money long term because of players leaving. :(

playstation may ultimately be a limiting factor to the games progression but it brings a lot more potential customers nowadays to be a console based game.

would be a mistake to ignore that market with such an established franchise as ff.

There's a lot they don't store on the servers, for instance you might notice that you log in with 0 TP. With all the bots that warp underground hitting mining points and killing mobs, I imagine a lot of potential for abuse.

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

I guess that could be a solution. However I have to wonder how often does the game save data, or how does it save server side? I mean is it saving data every second or minute or what. I don't know how that works. I've been in situations where I have had a DC and when I log back in my character is in a different spot from where the DC happened, as if it reverted back to the last save.

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What happens in that instance is that you DC but your computer doesn't realize it for a bit so you continue ridding or running. When your machine tells you "connection with the server is lost" you are a bit away from where the server lost you.