How does SE break a tie on loot rolls?

Sample scenario: healer pants drop off 3rd boss in WoD. Both healers roll a 99. How is this handled? As far as I know, I've never seen my roll change but I've not seen complaints online to the effect of "I rolled a 99 but the other healer got my gear." Is the rolling system not truly random (e.g. it doesn't allow the same number to be rolled twice)? Do they break ties? etc, etc, etc

In all my time in this game, I have never seen a duplicate roll. Thus I'm led to believe that the server runs a check with all the other rolls in the instance, and rolls again if the number was already taken.

I think once its rolled another person cant roll the same number. Ive never heard of any1 rolling same in this game.

It depends on who rolled first. If you didn't win the loot despite the 99, then you rolled a few seconds too late.

There are not duplicate rolls in this game AFAIK

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Originally Posted by Nestama

It depends on who rolled first. If you didn't win the loot despite the 99, then you rolled a few seconds too late.

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I really hope this is true so that there is some small penalty at least for those trying to wait for others to leave before rolling.

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Originally Posted by Illya

There are not duplicate rolls in this game AFAIK

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I asked on reddit and got this answer as well. I've never seen it, and considering how common it'd be (7% in 8-man content) if it were possible I'm sure I'd have seen it once or twice.

I'm pretty sure you can duplicate rolls, it's happened to me, first one to roll won, don't know if that's how it's decided or if it was coincidence though.

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Originally Posted by Pandalishus

Is the rolling system not truly random (e.g. it doesn't allow the same number to be rolled twice)? Do they break ties? etc, etc, etc

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It can still be truly random even if results are not allowed to repeat. Think of it as a draw from a box holding numbers 1~99.

If you roll a 99 then you have the item for sure because there are no duplicate rolls, so anyone who rolls after you cannot get the 99.

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Originally Posted by Pandalishus

As far as I know, I've never seen my roll change

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I actually had some bs like this today. Doing expert, gear drops, I greed an 89. Everyone else rolls, the healer gets the gear...with an 89 and somehow it said I rolled a 30 then, which in the loot pool, it showed 89 for me. So either it can change your roll or someone's using a certain something against ToS.

It's easy. You won't really roll 99 both, you will roll 99.956 and the other one will roll 99.147 and the game will simply show 99 for both roller.

If the highest roll is duplicated, the loot goes to the one that rolled first between the two. It was like that in XI its like that here in XIV.

I have never seen duplicate rolls, even on shared chests in CT/ST/WoD with 24 people rolling on a minion. Whenever someone draws a number, that number is removed from the pool so it can't be drawn again. This is comparable to putting 99 slips of paper labelled 1 to 99 in a hat, and putting away the slips that are drawn by each person (rather than putting them back in the hat for the next draw).

If 2 people roll lets say 50, both players will be re rolled again but the players will not know about the re roll until they check the logs. UNLESS the person is suddenly unable to gain the item (aka gaining another item and there inventory becomes full) then your default rolls will be accepted.

and what if the reroll ties again?
does it just keep going until they're different?

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Originally Posted by aisustrong

and what if the reroll ties again?
does it just keep going until they're different?

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yep, if it keeps tieing (which is a 1 in 200 chance to become a 1 in 400 to tie twice 1 in 800 for three times,)
it just keeps going with random numbers you will never see the re-roll however you will just see the final result.

This information is by memory as I am sure I read it a long time ago, I did look for source but I can't find it/it might have been patched differently at some point.

Its a priority system. Basically if you and I roll against the item - If you roll a 99 THEN I roll a 99 my roll will actually come up as a 98 (and we never know that it was actually a 99).