I recently decided to tank and gla is too cookie cutter and boring for me, so I got my WaR to 32 and I LOVE it so far. My real concerns are with my UI, Im on ps3 so I fear I wont know what should be on my main bar. Also could anyone give me pointers on how to use wrath both as MT and as more of dps, I would appreciate it.
Finally any knoe how Drk will be different from WaR? Im looking forward to leveling both, taking pld to provoke was a struggle because its so safe and boring, and if Drk is gona play like pld im good on it. Btw I have a 50 nin, blm, and mnk.
New War, help me out please
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02-12-2015, 02:34 AMGenesispanpanNew War, help me out please
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02-12-2015, 02:45 AMExiaQuanta
You use wrath stacks on certain skills that WAR has. However since your only lv32 you wont be seeing any skill(s) that uses them until lv35 With Inner Beast being your first. So how do they work? Well Inner Beast has a requirement, and that is to have 5 Stacks of Wrath. Same with Steel Cyclone, a skill for aoe aggor generation that you will get at 45. Unchained is a "buff" that uses 5 stacks of Wrath and allows you to ignore all damage dealt penalty that defiance puts on you. Now than which do you use? depending on your situation. Should you save it for inner beast or should you save your stacks for aoe threat? Most of the time You would want to use Inner beast on bosses so sometimes its alright to have 5 stacks for a while. You want to time the usage of inner beast for a big incoming hit like Mountain Buster. Steel Cyclone is there to grab hate on trash pulls or adds, IE dungeon pulls or let say adds at Shiva. Unchained is there is if you want to DPS for a few seconds while tanking. Again all based on your judgement of the situation your in. Things gets better once you get Infuriate which grants you 5 Stacks of wrath right a way. So you can do 2 skills in succession if you wanted to.
As for what goes on your hotbar? I dont play with the X-hotbar but i would suggest your threat generate combo and some Defensive cooldowns. -
02-12-2015, 02:51 AMGenesispanpan
cool, thanks for the heads up, thats honestly why I got mnk to 50 after I got nin to 110, i feared I wouldn't be able to cut it as a tank, but I did a few runs and everyone said I was one of the better tanks they have had. WaR took my attention when one did SV hm with no heals and pretty much solo'd last boss, so I wanted to know how to use my stacks to be at tgat level of awesome. Seems like I should put wrath on my "off bar" then.
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02-12-2015, 02:56 AMCodeCass
I play on the PS4, and I was curious if you could tell me, Genesis, how hard is it to tank using the crossbar system with a controller? That's always been one of my concerns about trying to tank or heal playing with a controller as I do. I've always just been curious. Thanks!
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02-12-2015, 03:00 AMExiaQuanta
At level 50 a War has some form of Health regen. So if you Did something like Unchained > Berserk > Bloodoath, you can get a bit of your HP back per hit. Also inner beast allows you to regen HP back equal to the damage you dealt with it so popping an Infuriate after the rotation i mentioned will do some dmg and heal. You want inner beast to do max dmg for the max heals you can get. innear beast heal can be used with Bloodath for a double heal for 1 hit. Lets not forget about Thrill of Battle either.
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02-12-2015, 10:22 AMThunda_Cat_SMASH
Tankings not too bad on the cross bar once you get used to quickly switching between them. For your main bar I would say put the skills you know you'll be using often, like your hate combo and your storm combos, buffs you'll often use like berserk, etc. I would recommend IB on your main bar, though.
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02-12-2015, 01:08 PMradioactive_lego
Here's my main hotbar:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-9umbXefM (84 seconds)
I try to keep my dire-needed skills on the button side (so i can move + spamm) and less used skills on the d-pad.
What you cant see are:
-Two marcos built into the thumbsticks.
-The green "2" on the Left hotbar/right dpad takes you to individual cooldowns (as opposed to the spammable * button).
If interested I'll post a full rundown of all macros used. -
02-12-2015, 01:39 PMaisustrong
here's a slightly old version of my war controller setup: http://youtu.be/kfNxoyPNSdo
I've moved internal release and vengeance since,I think the rest is the same -
02-12-2015, 09:15 PMradioactive_legoAhhhh! Love how smooth you can use your hotbars. As for their layout... ::cringe:: But hey, whatever works, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by aisustrong
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02-12-2015, 10:05 PMFrost_Tear
I don't use the cross hotbar i make it a point to just tap R1 once to swap between hotbars i only use 2 it all i need really.
i like to keep mainly attacks on the button side then buffs on the d pad side also since you main dps classes like me i put things like second wind blood for blood blood bath and what not into the same slot so it feels familiar. -
02-12-2015, 11:12 PMScorp6
I have been tanking using ps4 cross hot bar... Even remote play on the Vita with no issues. I suggest enabling the extended hot bar. This enables you to have another 8 skills by holding one of the triggers and the holding the second. You can also have R2->L2 and L2->R2 bring up different bars for 16 more. For ease of use you can have them pull up the same bar as well. Using this I have never run out of space on WHM or PLD (only 37 atm).
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02-13-2015, 08:06 PMaisustrongwhat's wrong with my layout?Quote:
Originally Posted by radioactive_lego
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02-13-2015, 09:27 PMradioactive_legoI don't think your hotbar is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by aisustrong
But, IMO, (and understand, O's are subjective) on your main bar you've got Overpower on the always d-pad side, flash is on the left toggle. and provoke is on a whole other hotbar. that's a lot of jostling for the skills that reap the most aggro. Overpower on the d-pad side (left thumb) scares me cuz you have to stop moving to spamm it.
These things are ok on primals/bosses cuz you're typically only fighting one mob, and your main aggro or hlr chain works fine. But, for lots of adds/speedruns the right-thumb (on the move) spammable overpower/flash marco just cant be beat (again, IMO). Also, with the addidion of L3/R3 marco assignments, freeing up hotbar space by placing T-hawk/provoke/overpower/cooldown spammable/whatever on R3 is almost a necessity. It's a free, on-the-move pallette you never have to switch hotbars for. It's the best button on the ctrlr atm. -
02-14-2015, 02:00 AMaisustrongi can use my right thumb for the left stick when i need to opQuote:
Originally Posted by radioactive_lego
op isnt something youre going to use on the move all that often anyway though
and i have provoke"under" tomohawk and butchers, so i can tap a trigger and be back really quickly -
02-14-2015, 06:17 AMradioactive_lego"The Claw" will always provoke a ::cringe::Quote:
Originally Posted by aisustrong
huh? I constantly op on a mob in the middle of a group and move so AOEs don't touch me. If I stopped for OPs I think the HLR would kill me for not dodging.Quote:
Originally Posted by aisustrong
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02-14-2015, 01:40 PMaisustrongI don't have any problem dodging and using opQuote:
Originally Posted by radioactive_lego
plus there's the whole gcd thing, so it's not like even if you don't claw you'll not miss that many due to moving -
02-26-2015, 05:29 PMCarvaka
I use crossbar, but extended with L-R and R-L, cool downs all on R-L, plus I add an additional hot bar (7) vertically on the left which I place my cooldowns on (the R-L and L-R ones), just in case they pop, so I can hit them straight away. I play PC, but use an xbox controller.
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02-26-2015, 09:36 PMArson_kingDont know If the quote is going to work but That is awesome layout, whats your macro like?Quote:
Originally Posted by radioactive_lego