1v1 duels please!

Pretty please?

Yes. This really needs to be a thing.

Yes, please let us duel eachother. You can add an option to opt out of duel invites if you like.

I would very much be in favor of such a system.

How do you expect to kill a Scholar in 1v1 duel?

They already said they want to do this.

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Originally Posted by thunderbreak

How do you expect to kill a Scholar in 1v1 duel?

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You don't, unless they are bad.

But its a duel, so please let's not bring class balance into this topic.

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Originally Posted by Crevox

They already said they want to do this.

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Source of this please :o ?
If it's the case, there is no more reason to not making official parsers ingame :p, a duel option is way worse when it come to gaming harassments than parsers xD even when you have an option to opt out duels.
Because, even if you are opting out for duel, you can expect to get your daily tells like : "Duel?", "Dudu???", "Why u no duel noob?!" etc.

I'm all up for your duel option if it can make some people happier but please enlarge the BlackList limitation, so other can continue their PVE activities in a game that is mainly PVE.

I also agree the blacklist needs to have a higher cap.

You would think 200 would be enough but....

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Originally Posted by thunderbreak

How do you expect to kill a Scholar in 1v1 duel?

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Summoner! if we are allowed to use pvp skills



I would love duels.
I don't care if I get 50 tells a day "wannawananwan?"

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

Summoner! if we are allowed to use pvp skills



I would love duels.
I don't care if I get 50 tells a day "wannawananwan?"

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Would be really silly to add in duels yet not allow PvP skills.

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Originally Posted by Slappah

Would be really silly to add in duels yet not allow PvP skills.

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It would! but we can still only glamour one set on each equipment so you never know with SE!

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

I don't care if I get 50 tells a day "wannawananwan?"

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That awkward moment when a part of the community would become harmful as RMT tells.
Is that really the future? :o

Yeah, would really need a gigantic blacklist for both.

No to 1v1 Duels... DCUO and SWTOR were ruined for me, because of idiots first challenge me to a duel, then when declined, they went out of their way to follow and keep pestering nonstop. The PVP system we have is fine... Don't want to be in Limsa Lominsa and have someone challenge for a duel >.<

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Originally Posted by Arielyanna

No to 1v1 Duels... DCUO and SWTOR were ruined for me, because of idiots first challenge me to a duel, then when declined, they went out of their way to follow and keep pestering nonstop. The PVP system we have is fine... Don't want to be in Limsa Lominsa and have someone challenge for a duel >.<

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Duels should not be allowed in any sanctuary, so having people follow you in limsa challenging you to a duel wouldn't happen.
There should be an option to automatically decline or block all duel challenges.

And if you're seriously still against it, add them to your blacklist. GG.


I seriously can't fathom the amount of content this community immediately says "no" to.
It's insanely ridiculous

1v1 duels aren't needed... if you want them, then there's other games with that sort of style. FFXIV doesn't need to follow the same path as other MMO's... Any 1v1 duel system will be open to abuse and people WILL find ways around blocks etc. Adding to blacklist... that seems to be the go to answer for everything nowadays. It shouldn't have to be.

For the record, this is the ONLY 'prospect' I have said 'no' to for XIV. It is NOT needed. Even in XI, there was Brenner and Ballista for PVP which worked well. In XIV we have one specific area for PVP and that's fine. The game is primarily PVE, NOT PVP... Dueling will just cause more aggravation for players who just want to PVE.

Duels should be similar as wolves den, but no rewards.. just for fun. Make 1v1 bracket there.

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Originally Posted by Arielyanna

1v1 duels aren't needed... if you want them, then there's other games with that sort of style. FFXIV doesn't need to follow the same path as other MMO's... Any 1v1 duel system will be open to abuse and people WILL find ways around blocks etc. Adding to blacklist... that seems to be the go to answer for everything nowadays. It shouldn't have to be.

For the record, this is the ONLY 'prospect' I have said 'no' to for XIV. It is NOT needed. Even in XI, there was Brenner and Ballista for PVP which worked well. In XIV we have one specific area for PVP and that's fine. The game is primarily PVE, NOT PVP... Dueling will just cause more aggravation for players who just want to PVE.

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So tell me if I got this right.

Duels shouldn't be added because this game needs to be a special snowflake and not take good things from other games and if I disagree I should go play some other MMO

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Originally Posted by Slappah

So tell me if I got this right.

Duels shouldn't be added because this game needs to be a special snowflake and not take good things from other games and if I disagree I should go play some other MMO

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1v1 Duels simply are not needed in XIV. That is my point.

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Originally Posted by Arielyanna

1v1 Duels simply are not needed in XIV. That is my point.

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You are 100% right.

They are NOT needed.
But they would be a GREAT addition to the game, and add a lot to the PvP side of the game, which, believe or not, is a thing.

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Originally Posted by Slappah

You are 100% right.

They are NOT needed.
But they would be a GREAT addition to the game, and add a lot to the PvP side of the game, which, believe or not, is a thing.

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I never sad that PVP isn't needed. Group PVP is fine and is locked to one area only which is great. 1v1 Duels everywhere else except sanctuaries... THAT I don't want. How would they be a great addition? To cite the two games I used before as examples (DCUO and SWTOR), people were getting challenged to duels EVERYWHERE... It was not fun, to be in the middle of a fight with trash mobs, then have my character pause as a pop up appears, challenging me to a duel... and by the time you decline it, your dead... and the idiot who challenged you is there laughing.

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Originally Posted by Arielyanna

1v1 Duels simply are not needed in XIV. That is my point.

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I think this game do really not need many things like personal housing or marriage system etc but I have nothing against it. Let players have fun in this game in their own way. Nobody force you do the duels. You can keep doing pve as much you want. If some players want duel somewhere that should not hurt you at all.

Edit:Who said dueling is supposed 2 happen everywhere? You can que for it from duty finder(like wolves den) or make special area for dueling.

Arie's point is though is such a system inevitably devolves into a means for idiots with chips on their shoulders going around hassling players - challenging them to duels and then hassling the person for turning them down, like Arie it put me off playing TOR as I got so sick of of the name calling from morons who kept challenging me (funnily enough, I was a Jedi Consular and they were almost always Republican Troopers!).

Having said that, if it was a limited, highly restricted event in, say, the Colosseum or in the Gold Saucer, and not part of the main game, then it could be fun. But definitely a big NO to just coming up to some random person and requesting a duel with them simply to over-inflate their e-peen.

I too, like my Enki and Arie got pretty jaded by the dueling set up in other MMO's. For me it was mostly the ultimate level of tardation those in WoW would go to when I said I wasn't interested.
That being said, I love Enki's idea of there being maybe a place FOR such contests, like IN the Gold Saucer or even a special instance within Halatali since that's kinda' what the place was for.
I fully agree with Arie that no it doesn't NEED to be there, but I wouldn't mind seeing it in some degree since my IC background is that of a wandering Martial Artist who loves to partake in "Street Fights" to test herself.
I wouldn't mind seeing duels if they were handled in a way that prevented griefing and trolls and fit in with the universe we're all playing in. ^^

Some mountains are sure made out of these molehills...

We've already said that SE can simply make it so you can opt out automatically from all duel requests. They could also just add a player status similar to Busy, where it shows that you are willing to duel other players. Being able to duel out in the open world would be fun as you would have all kinds of scenery at your disposal. Along with that, eventually the community will designate an area to meet up and just duel for fun, SE can even add a fighting ring out in the open field for this purpose.

Having players able to participate in the Colosseum would also be an option (the battlefield is already ingame) with gear caps to equalize gear and an restricted mode. Hell, SE can add some flare to it and players themselves could become famous Gladiators by participating in a tournament or monthly ranking in the Colosseum.

1v1 me rust m8 il rek u

If SE disabled cross class abilities then i think classes would technically be more balanced than having access to skills that are not native to their class.
I'm looking at you sch with swiftcast summon. Without eos/ selene sch would get rekt.

1v1 would probably more blacklist space as ppl would get picky on who to fight even if there was an option toturn off requests.
Get spammed in shout for declining a fight, get spammed by tells " 1v1 me bro " .
Maybe SE will add it in 3.0+ when they get their pvp act together lol

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Originally Posted by Arielyanna

It was not fun, to be in the middle of a fight with trash mobs, then have my character pause as a pop up appears, challenging me to a duel... and by the time you decline it, your dead... and the idiot who challenged you is there laughing.

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That's seriously your complaint?

Here's a fix.

When someone issues you a duel no matter wait, it only appears as the small minimized confirmation window. Like the little box that appears when you hit wait for the duty finder.

You just assume that if someone issues you a duel you're going to be unable to take any actions until hitting accept or decline? That's kind of silly don't you think. That's not how it would be and you know it.

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Originally Posted by Slappah

That's seriously your complaint?

Here's a fix.

When someone issues you a duel no matter wait, it only appears as the small minimized confirmation window. Like the little box that appears when you hit wait for the duty finder.

You just assume that if someone issues you a duel you're going to be unable to take any actions until hitting accept or decline? That's kind of silly don't you think. That's not how it would be and you know it.

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That's only ONE example. I could go into more detail, but honestly I can't be bothered. You haven't played DCUO have you? When I used to play it on PS3, I had a window appear right in the middle of the screen saying "Such and such wishes to challenge you to a duel. Do you accept? Yes / No". Same with SWTOR. I'm not saying that IF SE did decide to include 1v1 duels that they'd use a similar pop up like the other two games have, but it would still be a nuisance. Even when you go into DF, you still get that big window in the screen, until you hit Wait or close it, THEN the smaller one pops up on the side of the screen out of the way.

Look assume all you want. If SE brings it in, I hope they also make it fair to those who do NOT want to 1v1 with random idiots. Like Enkidoh said, have the duels in one specific area and NOT in the field.

Please dont add a Name change feature, because players are going to abuse it.

Please dont add Free Company name change feature, because players are going to abuse it.

Please dont add 1vs1 Duels, because players are going to abuse it.

Can people find any other reason, to be against simple features?

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Originally Posted by Arielyanna

No to 1v1 Duels... DCUO and SWTOR were ruined for me, because of idiots first challenge me to a duel, then when declined, they went out of their way to follow and keep pestering nonstop. The PVP system we have is fine... Don't want to be in Limsa Lominsa and have someone challenge for a duel >.<

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Before you do a duell, you enter a queue. Then the DF find a duell partner for you. This way nobody can challenge not interested players.
Maybe with a duell arena in wild west theme?

In the couple of years I've played WoW, I've never had an experience where duelist would ruin my experience. In fact it became a past time for me and my fiance to sit out front of the alliance main city and watch the duelist go at it. We'd get an invite, and after being declined they'd go else where.

I personally love this game, and would love to be able to duel my FC mates in area's such as the ruins of Nym, the red ice area of coerthas, and especially on some of the floating islands coming in Heavens Ward. You ever have a duel which results in both members being knocked off a cliff, turning the fight into some DBZ free fall only to be saved by that protrusion from the cliff? Or to duel complete stranger who had his PVP flag on, and get low levels to stop and watch the the rounds?

Duels in the open world can lead to some amazing fights that cannot be replicated in battle grounds or dungeons. That leads to me having more fun. Is my fun not as important as yours? If they go the route WoW did, the most they could do is send you tells. Black list for the day, do your thing, and everything is solved. We're not asking for ganking. We're not asking for griefing. We simply want the option to duel with our friends in the open world. Not being locked in a bland coliseum.

Thought this was coming in the Golden Saucer at some point? either way, I would love to see this, I know that in any 1v1 situation I come into in FL I always come out on top. If it starts completely even at any rate. I would also like to see a PvE Coliseum where you have 1/2/3/4v unlimited enemies back to back. see how long you last and have ranked ladders. Probably not explaining that last one right but I hope I at least get the gist of things across.

duels wouldn't be a great addition to this game. Not because it wouldn't add anything or "insert XXX reason about how bad and toxic wild PvP is", but because of job balance.

"But don't bring that here it has no importance"

It has. A lot. some classes are just too cheated in 1v1 situations (namely, scholar) to allow any form of 1v1 to come. This game has been created with a team approach, which means the classes are totally unbalanced when it comes to solo playing (SCH or SMN > all) but as a group, the balance is nearly perfect. It would result in only 2 things :

A) people stop 1v1 totally. No one ever uses this feature because it's either "you're in the right job" or "you're wrecked" so they just stop thinking about it

B) the community becomes insanely toxic with people ganking people who just want to play their way through the game, insults, bashing, shaming, etc... Things that happen in all the other MMOs I know with wild PvP.

I'm not sure if you want that for the game, but I'm sure I don't. B is out of the question. As for A... well, Wolf's den is already a unused feature because people don't like it. I'd rather SE fix this before trying to add an other unused feature

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Originally Posted by thunderbreak

How do you expect to kill a Scholar in 1v1 duel?

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With another SCH and see which one logs out for the night first :P

I don't want 1v1 pvp system. I want a pk system where we can just go out and kill random players and troll them :D:D:D:D:D:D

If there is a real "need" for 1v1 pvp, they should add it as a sub part of the pvp Den of thingie.
No to the "I challenge you here and now because you pulled the hunt NM early and I shall shame you in front of the people and if you refuse, I will stalk you for days".

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Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurf

They need to permit us to FL/Wolve's Den just for fun against our friend's premades.

Perhaps only give us the "Request Duel" option in the Wolve's Den Pier.

This would be a solid way to implement dueling without much of the abuse.

Could be the same essentially to party leaders forming up a premade Alliance, restricted to inside the Pier.

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There. Not abusable. Isolated. Fun.

Oh yes please please. Dueling in the open world is something I've been missing. And XIV really has fitting areas for this kind of thing.

I'm not a fan of PVP but 1 v 1 duels makes for great social entertainment and I had a lot of fun doing that in other MMOs with the groups of players sitting around specific areas just fighting and talking to each other. This is something I really can't see any negative in allowing.