PLD DPS rotation

Is it really as simple as spamming savage>riot while keeping roh buff debuff up if needed?

Also. I assume appropriate times to be in sword oath are when I know I'm going to be dpsing for awhile and don't need to pick anything up/when I know I can take the adds while in sword oath?

Kind of trying to get down all the info I can as I'm not an extremely experience PLD (or tank in general) but for the sake of forming my own static, I will be tanking for it. (Starting on bcob)
So I want to be prepared as I can be.

Any help and tips would be much appreciated, thanks.

your war should be the ot dps'ing more often

Riot Blade doesn't combo after Savage Blade. It combos after Fast Blade. Your RoH combo is much better damage.

You're spot on with Sword Oath (generally speaking).

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Originally Posted by aisustrong

your war should be the ot dps'ing more often

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Definitely if you have a choice, have the WAR as the off tank, but sometimes mechanics dictate otherwise.

Yeah meant riot blade my mistake.

So I do RoH combo instead of riot blade when doing dps?


Also I realize warrior is the better offtank but this also applies to thing like LoTA/ST/WoD where tanks go periods of time without really doing any tanking.

Well it depends. In Sword Oath, using the RoH combo, and not being MT, you have potential of pulling threat. So you have to watch your output a bit to make sure you don't make things complicated. As MT in Sword Oath on single target, most duties, it's ok to do, usually after you have established your threat lead in Shield Oath.

If I am going to be in a situation where the group needs the OT to DPS moar, I will go WAR most of the time. It's more fun to me lol. There have been many discussions on the DPS output of both jobs while OTing. Can do a quick search and find some.

GL and welcome shield brother!

Riot Blade is only used for MP regen purpose when you need to Flash more. Using it as a dps source would simply drain you more of your TP quicker since you would be using 70>80 most of the time instead of 70>60x2. Because TP reg in battle is 60 every ~3 seconds, a simple way to say it is that you drain only 10 points every 3 hits with RoH, while Riot drains you 30 every 2 hits. You do the maths.

All good responses I appreciate them.

Did my first pull as a tank on twin a bit ago and it went well (at least, I did a good job mitigating DS.)
I realize this is off topic though I'm not sure why I'm posting it.
I'm really tired

Grats on Twin. The biatch gave me soo many headaches back in the day.

Pld dps:
*Sword oath on.
*spam 123 halone combo.
*use fof, scorn, spirits on cooldown
*use str or melded accessories.
*trade out parry for acc/det/crit.

Congrats you are now the perfect dps pld. It's really, really straightforward. 1 combo spam, 3 abilities on cooldown. Sword oath and dps gear.

Sword oath and a sTr set are the most important factors.

I keep 3 sets on my side bar.

Full VIT
Full STR
hybrid

Sometimes I further alter them but I swap sets between pulls as needed.

it the same RoH combo. you can also add facture into that if you have good TP management.

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Originally Posted by Remn

it the same RoH combo. you can also add facture into that if you have a bard singing paeon anyway, a nin goad with no one more useful to goad, or the fight is short enough/has enough down time to recover tp.

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fixd. 'TP management' implies there's something you as a pld should do to conserve tp. The only way to manage tp as pld is shield swipe, but that's not real applicable as dps OT. Halone all day every day. No way to 'manage' that.

if you have high TP, you can use Facture. normally I stop using it when I got 400 TP left.
if you know the fight well enough and know when there a break coming up (T12 final phase plume + drive and T13 Drive phase) , you can keep your TP low enough so that after the break you will be just at full TP or nearly full TP.

as OT you right there no real way to conserve TP but there a way to burn it faster ;) by using Facture.
if you sitting at high TP right before the Drive phase, then you will most likely stand there wasting TP tick. (that How I think when I OT or MT the fight.)

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fixd. 'TP management' implies there's something you as a pld should do to conserve tp. The only way to manage tp as pld is shield swipe, but that's not real applicable as dps OT. Halone all day every day. No way to 'manage' that.

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That's where you have to get creative as an OT PLD, if your healers are up for it... You can Cover the MT and pair Bulwark and FoF. The shield swipe procs you will get are insane, so is the DPS increase.

Generally, you should do 1 shield swipe per 1 combo action is preferred since shield swipe timer is a bit short. So it looks like this

Shield Swipe > Fast Blade > Shield Swipe > Savage Blade > Shield Swipe > Rage of Halone > continue.

You won't be running out of TP, aggro wont be an issue and you will be pushing amazing DPS as OT. (Though it depends on the fight if magical auto attacks like ramuh or physical like anything else.)

PLD is boring and all the same. MT? Halone! OT? Halone! DPS? Halone!

Doesn't matter if you are the tank there just for DPS, or if you are DPS there just for DPS. Regardless, if you are not the MT, you need to keep track of your own enmity and hold back when it looks like you are close to taking it.

Otherwise, STR gear set, Sword Oath, and start whacking away.

As far as WAR vs. PLD DPS, don't always assume the WAR puts out more DPS. Who has a full set of STR accessories, who has the better weapon, etc.?

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As far as WAR vs. PLD DPS, don't always assume the WAR puts out more DPS. Who has a full set of STR accessories, who has the better weapon, etc.?

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