Suggestions to improve hunts

• Increase Hunt mob HP - it should be close to 10 times what it is now. Currently most hunt mobs (at least on Hyperion) die in about 10 seconds. Why can't the HP scale according to how many players are engaging it? I'd like to see an S-Rank Hunt Mob take a few minutes to bring down, if being zerged, especially ones on such a long timer.
• Increase Mechanics. Give the Hunts AoE Knockbacks, Petrification, AoE DPS reduction, Fear, AoE Confusion, Reflect etc. -- make the fights last longer and more entertaining! Scale severity to the amount of people engaging the mob (or in vicinity).
• Make Max Seals reward easier to obtain. Because of how quickly mobs die, it is hard to get a gold rating to attain full Seals. Please scale the requirements for gold rating to make it easier for players who are engaging in a zerg.

So with the 2.5 update, everyone is partaking in hunts now and many players are getting frustrated, not being able to take part in killing a mob. There are some players on servers now that are pulling very early, just to grief other players who are zoning in.

Solution... don't hunt.

I think ATM seals need improve but not hunt itself... ^^;

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Originally Posted by Wintersandman

Solution... don't hunt.

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Jokes aside, we all agree that the community in general would be better sans griefing, whether it's the hunts, dungeoneering or anything else: myself, I'll take it on the chin and move on.

In any way, my guess is that we just have to wait for a few more people to get their carbons this way for the situation to become manageable again, simply that.

For now, the situation is oftentimes the one Damanexor described: you may have been scouring a zone to seek a mark, but once it pops, it's highly likely it will be down before your chocobo can say "kweh".

Given that invites on the fly are next to impossible to handle in this situation (usually people are still running towards the mark or already going at it, not to mention the lag spikes from larger groups) preformed parties are de rigueur if you plan to hold hunting sessions at all.

And we can still meet new and interesting (and capable) people through other content.

Aside from Alexandrite, what exactlly is it that people are supposed to be able to get from seals that has caused all this nonsense? I see no carboncoat or carbontwine or encrypted tomestones, in the Hunt vendors list. Just the alexandrite...

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Originally Posted by T2teddy

Aside from Alexandrite, what exactlly is it that people are supposed to be able to get from seals that has caused all this nonsense? I see no carboncoat or carbontwine or encrypted tomestones, in the Hunt vendors list. Just the alexandrite...

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500 seals for an "Unstained Mark Log", then go another npc trade 4 Log for a carboncoat or 6 Log for a carbontwine ^^;

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Originally Posted by Wintersandman

Solution... don't hunt.

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Solution... Move twines and coats to WoD. Leave hunts for tomestones and glamor.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Solution... Move twines and coats to WoD. Leave hunts for tomestones and glamor.

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That's a possibility, of course.
Seals would still retain their usefulness - be it for glamour gear, crafting materials, mid-range Company equipment, buying ventures, house apparel and such - while moving 'twines and coats away would also serve to promote WoD (something players couldn't mindlessly zerg their way through, as well).

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Solution... Move twines and coats to WoD. Leave hunts for tomestones and glamor.

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I agree with this. But however people are all in a tizzy over hunts. It's your blood pressure rising. Honestly I am sick of the crying, etc since we are all so 'entitled' to the best gear available. I am in between casual/hardcore and really I don't care if I get twine. I can slowly work my way to FCOB. Hunting? Yeah I don't want to see the people yelling in shout over who pulled early or people that take their sweet time getting there. Groups who are full and are waiting for other groups together are being respectful. This whole pissing match over hunts is because we feel entitled to get the same gear as everyone else. That's it in a nutshell. You want it. Work for it.

A simple redesign of how A and S rank hunts should be easy enough to achieve. Increasing their HP by a scaling factor that is based on number of people near the mob is a great idea. This makes the fights longer (allowing more people to get there in time) and also makes it more interesting.

I am on Sargatanas and most A ranks die within 10 seconds. S ranks are around 30 seconds. This is not much of a window to get there. Sargatannas also has one very notorious early puller whose name I cannot mention due to forum rules. I can; however, say that his name was inspired by the dragon ball z series ;)

This behavior has actually led to many of the tanks in the community resetting mobs when that particular guy is involved. Steal aggro, pull away from spawn location, reset for the win.

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Originally Posted by Tex_Mex

A simple redesign of how A and S rank hunts should be easy enough to achieve. Increasing their HP by a scaling factor that is based on number of people near the mob is a great idea. This makes the fights longer (allowing more people to get there in time) and also makes it more interesting.

I am on Sargatanas and most A ranks die within 10 seconds. S ranks are around 30 seconds. This is not much of a window to get there. Sargatannas also has one very notorious early puller whose name I cannot mention due to forum rules. I can; however, say that his name was inspired by the dragon ball z series ;)

This behavior has actually led to many of the tanks in the community resetting mobs when that particular guy is involved. Steal aggro, pull away from spawn location, reset for the win.

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Maybe it will encourage PT pull immediately to prevent MOB HP increasing dynamically while "LOTS INCOMING" ?

While i do believe that the hunt marks could do with a hp boost, or a general difficulty upgrade, I do believe the only way to deal with the issue is for the community to band together. Let the early pullers get mauled, mark their lifeless body, and name and shame in linkshells. Think its got to the stage were people will happily kick repeat offenders from linkshells, and the general knowledge of this being a potential consequence will make many think twice about that glorious first hit which for some reason appears to bestow the perpetrator with full marks

They could also add a buff to hunts whereas all damage does 0 or 1 for 30 seconds on pull. Could give more people time to actually get there. I'd imagine dynamically setting HP based on population could be a nightmare to program, especially with how bad it gets at S Ranks.

Here are some more solutions:
1. Let players police their server. Show in chatlog system message about who pulls a hunt withing say distance and let players be blacklisted from this entry and from player search.
2. Reduce the relative value of hunts. You can: Put Carbontwine in WoD or weekly CT quest. Give more seals for dailies. Have unstained mark logs randomly drop from daily/weekly hunts.
3. Fix hunt hp. Return hunt hp to previously raised amount; or when a hunt monster is aggroed, roughly poll the number of players nearby and and base monster HP on a ballpark of the number of players.

Change B-rank Mark Bill to be bi-weekly.
Reduce reward to 50 Allied Seals.

Change A-rank to require GC issued Mark Bill.
Make it weekly and require a full party for credit.
Increase reward to 500 Allied Seals.
Decrease respawn timer to 5 seconds.

S-rank remains open world.
Increase reward to 200 Allied Seals.
Increase respawn timer to 48 hours.

How bout this they make a set of Hunts that can be force poped with scrolls from GCs or something and they have less seals then wild hunt!......fixes all issues

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Originally Posted by Damanexor

• Increase Hunt mob HP

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This ^^ Yes please!

FYI - YoshiP had foreseen the problem of increasing HP last year^^;

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We've already raised the maximum HP of elite marks, and if we were to simply continue increasing their HP, this would only draw in more players to attack elite marks after they spawn, and the Hunt would no longer be an activity players can take part in while solo or in a small group.
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...808-11-2014%29

I'm an avid hunter, loved the idea since patch notes, was a long time player on FFXI and I was excited to hear that FFXIV would have NMs randomly spawning. Wicked.
That in mind, the system is flawed, for better or worse, no point changing it now. If you want more "instanced" content, request SE to add more Guildhests before changing the Hunt. Sure, they drop Twine, but it's no different when Oil was available and everyone was grinding for their 110's. I'm part of 4 Hunt LS and an avid submitter, I still miss hunts. On Zalera we try to make it fair for everyone involved, but sometimes that is not the case, and ppl lose out. Instead of stiff upper lipping it like an adult, ppl /shout expletives and act like immature brats, kind of like this thread. Call it what you want, disguise it as an "Idea" but this is comparative to that person missing out and crying about it. They're random content, if you miss one or do not get full rewards, suck it up, look for the next hunt.