24 Runs of Copperbell HM and AK later...

No zodiac item drops. Someone end my misery.

30 runs of Pharos here, till I got the drop

still, better grind then Nexus farm.

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Originally Posted by Defteros

30 runs of Pharos here, till I got the drop

still, better grind then Nexus farm.

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Pure RNG vs light farm with guaranteed set amounts? Ya I'd take the nexus farm any day.

Sell high level dungeons run.. /tell for info

33 runs of Haukke in 2 days. I feel your pain. More actually. I started counting late.

You're getting tomestones toward the spring waters in this manner, as well as item trade ins for the bomb cores. The fact that you can run those dungeons as any class is what makes it more tolerable for me than nexus imo.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

Pure RNG vs light farm with guaranteed set amounts? Ya I'd take the nexus farm any day.

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it may be "pure" RNG, but still the drop rates are waaaaaay higher then ATMA farm pre nerf.

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The fact that you can run those dungeons as any class is what makes it more tolerable for me than nexus imo.

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exactly.

Pfft, come talk to me after you do that many AVs without a drop.

At least with nexus you know youre making progress. Youre always farther than where you were 5 hr ago

With zodiac, you could spend 10 hr and be in the same situation as you were 10 hr ago aka no drops

Change the job. maybe it help.

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

At least with nexus you know youre making progress. Youre always farther than where you were 5 hr ago

With zodiac, you could spend 10 hr and be in the same situation as you were 10 hr ago aka no drops

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But he make even without the key item process, if he still need GC seals and soldiery tomes to buy the other key items.

/10hugs ; ;

It's very discouraging when you go days without getting a drop. I went 20+ on Hullbreaker myself and I'd estimate at least 15 on AV.

But overall I'd say this is still one of the better steps of the relic quest. The endless FATE grinding of pre-nerf Atma, waiting on FATEs for Animus, the massive gil/time sink of getting good materia for Novus and being locked into one job for the Nexus grind were all far worse in my opinion.

Depends on how you look at it. Tedium above all else is what'll break it for me, and that's exactly what nexus farming was. Countless hours of nothing but hoping Garuda was the bonus and then farming her for 2 straight hours (as a bard no less). Sure that eventually was done, and that "eventually" was a month and a half later. I wouldn't say I was blessed with RNG with Zodiacs (longest spell being around 15 or so runs for Sastasha (Heroic), and on average 5 runs for the other dungeons), and I still neded up getting all my drops and being short around 600 tomestones for my last springwater.

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Originally Posted by Felis

But he make even without the key item process, if he still need GC seals and soldiery tomes to buy the other key items.

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if you didn't have 80k GC Seals by the time you finished the Nexus step,with all the primal weapons turn-in, you were doing something wrong xD

or... you were just spamming Cape Westwind *shudder*

Stone Vigil HM took me the longest so far. Wasn't counting but it was probably over 15+. I have a feeling this system keeps tanks longer specially if its an old dungeon, new people need to progress the story.

Right now I have 2 quest left. Im doing copper bell mine HM atm. But its true.. I have all my items already, and I just need to get these dungeon drops to complete this quest line.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Change the job. maybe it help.


But he make even without the key item process, if he still need GC seals and soldiery tomes to buy the other key items.

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That's only applicable if you didn't already have the gc seals and tomes
if you've got all the gil,gc,sol items collected which most people usually somewhat anticipate

I just started collecting light for my Yoshimitsu Blades with about 250 so far. I already have 3 Sacred Spring Waters and 3 Bombard Cores with one of my retainers. I hope to have those done soon and will start to pick up the 4 vendor hand ins and start to look at the 8 craft-able ones too. I've started one of the 4 quests and have completed Wanderer's Palace. I'll be working in dungeons as I find the time to do them. The plan is to have all the Zodiac Quest needs done at about the same time I finish collecting light.

Dungeon drops can be elusive at times but I'd much rather run dungeons for drops than spam ST and other venues for light. I love the fact I can play on any role and get the Zodiac stuff done. it's certainly easier the second time around.

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Originally Posted by Defteros

if you didn't have 80k GC Seals by the time you finished the Nexus step,with all the primal weapons turn-in, you were doing something wrong xD

or... you were just spamming Cape Westwind *shudder*

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I started my zodiac chain just as the quest went live, so I didn't have the knowledge to save up GC seals for the bomb cores (I started with 2000 or so seals). You can't buy the spring waters either until you start the zodiac quest chains (nor did I stockpile soldiery before the patch, I started at like 500 as well). Top that off with the 2000 limit you can't really save up for more than a single spring water if you don't have sexus beforehand.