New i90 Tools

Rauni Lucis
Mammon Lucis
Halcyon Rod Lucis
Ullikummi Lucis
Vulcan Lucis
Kurdalegon Lucis
Urcaguary Lucis
Pinga Lucis
Clotho Lucis
Paracelsus Lucis
Chantico Lucis

I WANT TO CRY... After all the money I spent on supras and getting 4* ready, I'm not ready for new weapons /sigh. Well come tomorrow back to spending money and grinding.

I predict the need for the Supra tool, 10 Mastercraft Demimateria, 50 Fieldcraft IIIs and 25 HQ upgraded token items (calibrated rose gold cogs, etc.)

(I'm secretly hoping that they just HAND them to us lol! XD)

There's another thing :
Artisan's Pattens Feet Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50

We're getting a new feet piece already? We just got sandals in 2.4. :/

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Originally Posted by Iveriad

There's another thing :
Artisan's Pattens Feet Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50

We're getting a new feet piece already? We just got sandals in 2.4. :/

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it actually probably should be adept's pattens.

It corresponds with the new i70 adept set we seem to be getting to replace the entire artisan set. moreover, it isn't crafted, so likely requires tokens to collect.

Tomestones of crafting, anyone?

Yup I didn't scroll down low enough, I just noticed those. /double/triplesigh lol. We just got new gear last patch. I'm still gonna aim for these, will probably make 4* easier, but.... just but... XD

Edit: Been looking over the new recipes and it seems that Adept stuff is NOT crafted, meaning it probably won't have any materia meld slots. BiS pieces with no materia to slot [Yes, Please.]

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Originally Posted by Iveriad

There's another thing :
Artisan's Pattens Feet Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50

We're getting a new feet piece already? We just got sandals in 2.4. :/

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I'm sure that's a typo as all the other new crafting gear is listed as "Adept's X". But yes we are getting new gear to replace the stuff we just got. This time, however, there is an Artisan's apron! However there's also an adept's apron that's i70...so...yeah.

My guess is that the new Adept's stuff is acquired through turn ins of some kind, likely to do with the new items added to allied seals/ gc seal purchases and/or whatever the increased rewards from Ixali quests may be. Well, they're certainly not crafted anyway, except the artisan's apron. That said, there don't appear to be any 5 star recipes, so the new gear is just to make things easier (or so it seems).

For gathering, looks like just new tools I think, but a nice big ilvl jump from 75 to 90 (same for crafting). There actually are new nodes to go after for gathering, though I kind of hope they use the same conditions as the nodes from 2.4 (I still need to use food to get HQ to 1% on platinum, etc.). No new headgear or accessories form what I saw (for crafting or gathering). I think it's supposed to be that the adept's stuff is supposed to allow you to craft 4 star without max melds. If so, those who put CP on their offhands must be happy.

EDIT: I just realized that while there doesn't seem to be any new gathering gear and there's 3 pieces of left side crafting gear, it is possible that the adept's gear is hybrid crafting/ gathering gear like some of the lower level crafted pieces. If so, well, my severely under appreciated BOT is about to get a big boost (as well as body pieces for by less used crafters)!

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Originally Posted by Shinzoku

Yup I didn't scroll down low enough, I just noticed those. /double/triplesigh lol. We just got new gear last patch. I'm still gonna aim for these, will probably make 4* easier, but.... just but... XD

Edit: Been looking over the new recipes and it seems that Adept stuff is NOT crafted, meaning it probably won't have any materia meld slots. BiS pieces with no materia to slot [Yes, Please.]

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considering how insanely easy the artisan pieces have been to meld (Even from NQ, its still laughable) im hoping it isn't BiS. otherwise, im expecting my crafting materia market to take a big hit.

p.s. I hate that my spelling autocorrect always makes materia into material.

Ya you're right about that, materia melding the Artisan's pieces wasn't all that expensive. The OH was another story lol. Although if this new Adepts gear does have crafting/gathering stats on it as Nutz suggested, even @ i70 it may not be BiS.

I'm assuming the Adept's set will be an almost-but-not-quite as good alternative to the Artisan's stuff. Ehcatl Smithing Gloves are i70 and have inferior stats to the i60 Artisan's Mitts fully melded. I expect Adept's to be the same, just acquired through non-Ixali related token turn-ins. Yoshi-P said he wanted to help new crafters, and this would be a good start.

Also. i90 Lucis. My god. i90. The stats will be delicious.

I'm making a bet that the i70 Adept's set is just like how the i70 hand was. Token based, non meld-able, supposed to be an alternative to the existing crafted hands, for those poor dudes who doesn't have the $ to do the crafted ones.

Considering Artisan gear is only i60 it's a safe bet that the i70 Adepts stuff will just be plain outright better in those slots. Oh well, makes me glad I didn't bother getting Artisan's clothes.

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Originally Posted by Songi

Considering Artisan gear is only i60 it's a safe bet that the i70 Adepts stuff will just be plain outright better in those slots. Oh well, makes me glad I didn't bother getting Artisan's clothes.

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not really a SAFE bet, persay, considering existing i70 gear is inferior to the i60. Especially when we already know the i70 stuff isn't craftable, and therefore isn't meldable.

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Originally Posted by Songi

Considering Artisan gear is only i60 it's a safe bet that the i70 Adepts stuff will just be plain outright better in those slots. Oh well, makes me glad I didn't bother getting Artisan's clothes.

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Did you know that the i70 token hands is the same as the i55 crafted hands except they swapped 3 points of something for 3 points of CP?

Not sure if its allowed on the forums or not, but since I cant remember a rule preventing it specifically, ill post anyways. early mining data is showing adepts chausses as being -4 control and -1 cp vs. fully melded artisan culottes.

so, about on par with the ixal gloves.

p.s. if it is against forum rules, ill definitely delete this on my own, and apologize profusely.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

Did you know that the i70 token hands is the same as the i55 crafted hands except they swapped 3 points of something for 3 points of CP?

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3 control for the cost of 3 CP yup. The thing is, those gloves aren't really in the same progression path as the Artisan Spectacles. Totally separate acquisition methods. Ixali Beast Tribe reward for Ehcatl gloves and Talan in Mor Dhona for the Artisan i70 Spectacles.

So the lucises look straightforward enough. Handin: supra + 20 moonstones + 20 hqed 3* items (e.g. petrified orb)...

Are there even crafts that require these?

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Are there even crafts that require these?

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Now you don't have to meld Artisan's Tools one by one if you have Lucis and melded Artisan's Apron.
I think that's the point.

You might also meld Control and CP materia for your Artisan's Tools now.

The crafted + melded is still BiS, if barely.

Lucis is gonna be insane though. its basically 116k company seals per lucis.

I hope you guys realize that the new i70 does not replace the fully-melded i60 stuff. A quick stat comparison on the database makes this pretty obvious. Do not get rid of your fully melded Artisan's gear...

Dang I can't play because of ggs night shift :(

Someone told me before I logout the new turn ins for the i90 tools are 40 durability 3stars.

Is it true 40dura??

Yep, offhand...
40 Dur
222 progress
4980 (bit under 5k) quality
3 star difficulty

Looks like minimal starting quality. Each recipes seems to take 3-4 NQ GC items and some low level HQ-able items.
So maybe at most 500 starting quality out of 5000.

So perhaps these will overall be easier than the 4 star book items, but not easy by any means... Especially 20 of them.

The nice thing is... the REALLY nice thing, is that if you dont HQ it, you can give it BACK to Talan for the NQ GC components. So in effect as long as you complete the synth, if you do not HQ it, you just eat the 5 cluster cost... Not exactly small, but greatly, GREATLY reduces the reliance on Reclaim RNG for retrying.

Perhaps SE is realizing that the level of layered RNG is becoming too much, so they are toning it down a bit.
Still seems we are stuck with the ol HT-ToT-Fish-Reclaim methodology for making usable 4 stars though.

So 1rapid synth 2x cs2 should complete the synth.

Hmmm need to get 11iq stacks :(

I'm thinking manipulation based rotation.

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

Someone told me before I logout the new turn ins for the i90 tools are 40 durability 3stars.

Is it true 40dura??

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The problem are now the moonstones, you get one from the ixali delivery quest or from maps and it's untradable, so you can't buy/sell them. So it shouldn't be hard to get the new tools, but it will require a lot of time to acquire them all.

I thought you could buy them using GC seals?
Almost makes sense that they buffed only 1 set of Ixal dailies.
So we should do the Deliverance quest, 2 from <> the Steady, and 3 from <> the Second, for 1 moonstone and 8 oaknots to get 1 sealant per day.

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Originally Posted by Kenji1134

I thought you could buy them using GC seals?

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Oh, forgot about that. It's 4000 seals per moonstone, that's some serious seal grind, if you want to get the tools quickly. :p

Well turning in I90 gear is about 825 seals.
So get an FC group together, and ask them to let you get drops. 5 drops will get you 4k seals, which is 2-3 runs.
But yes, as all things with crafting, it will take quite a while.

Just finished one, now i have 482 craftmanship, and 423 control (no artisan apron yet, 15 on offhand)
Don't know yet if so much cm is useful to save steps on any recipes,
Cm can go up to 500+ depending on melds on apron and offhand.

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Originally Posted by Dycloide

Just finished one, now i have 482 craftmanship, and 423 control (no artisan apron yet, 15 on offhand)
Don't know yet if so much cm is useful to save steps on any recipes,
Cm can go up to 500+ depending on melds on apron and offhand.

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Apparently with 541 craftsmanship, using food of course, you can get a 4 star down to 4 progress steps.
This is from the 2.5 Crafting Updates thread.

Honestly, it takes about 5 steps with some 460ish craftsmanship, which is reasonably obtainable with the Lucis tool. So adding in another 80 to get it down to 4 steps is a bit much. Those points could be better spend on CP and Control.
The real question is, how much control do you need to 100% a 4 star starting from available HQ mats, with either less than perfect HT rng, OR without a good/excellent for BB.

just spam t4, still a great way to lv desynth, gil from mats or now turn ins (from what you cant desynth) that are 1k seals a pop.

Which ability do you use ?
I'm down to 5 steps at 451 with 4xRS+CSII

I'm glad I waited for these patches to nerf older craft content.

I also use 4xRS and 1xCS2 with 451 crafts, interested to know if there's a better rotation with more crafts available so I can plan what setup to use. I'm not going to go for the 4 step setup though as I like CP food.

Btw, you can get the new GC crafting components for the Lucis tokens from Leves. The levemete at Saint Coinarch's have some for each class which give 3 of each material.

The levequest method looks like for every class you seem to always have up at least 1 leve with a lucis tool crafting material. Either the triple-turn in (3 materials total) or single turn-in (also 3 materials total).

Assuming no NQs on the actual token item, works out to 20 leves to get the 60 materials. Haven't seen any particular leve always give the item. For ARM, you could just zerg turn-in cobalt ingots (whether the reward is up or not).

Also, for the record, it is possible to have all 3 leves for a certain crafting job have material rewards. I have that right now on my BSM. I'd guess it would show up for other jobs.

Levequests seem like the best way to get the turn in items unless you're somehow swimming in seals and have no idea what to do with them. I spent about 20-30 minutes collecting 15 of the magicked oilcloths for mining. For some reason only 2 leves were showing up at once (maybe it was always like that...) so sometimes I had to complete leves that didn't give the reward, though now that I think about it I could have abandoned them I guess.

Also, in case anyone was interested you can hit the requisite 1% HQ on antumbral rock at fairly low perception. I was at 2% with 405 perception.

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Originally Posted by Songi

Considering Artisan gear is only i60 it's a safe bet that the i70 Adepts stuff will just be plain outright better in those slots. Oh well, makes me glad I didn't bother getting Artisan's clothes.

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It wasn't very difficult for me to get all 4 new artisan gear items and i got it - for collection. And i found out that fully melded pre 2.5 gear items are better than i70 ones (crship+1, control+1, cp+1). So, i think that now it's better to have fully melded i60 artisan gear. i55 body... it's a question - full meld of 8 body gear items COSTS, but fully melded i55 body is better than i70 one.

Yeah, the cost of Craftsmanship 4 materia has shot up lately. I imagine a lot of people will be trying to put 3 of them on the Artisan body.
IDK, it seems like the most reasonable method would be something like 2 Crafts4, 1 Control4, then overmeld a CP3, and the last is just another crafts or control 1/2, depending on how "perfect" you want it.

That said, the Artisan Gown is almost as good as a "super-perfectly" (not possible) melded i55 body, but for every class.
So get the Artisan Gown. Get an Artisan Apron crafted, and wait for materia prices to go down. Or get an FC group together and SB the now easy to obtain I70 crafting armors in Hullbreaker Isle or something. Get your Grade 4 materias from there.

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Originally Posted by Kenji1134

Yeah, the cost of Craftsmanship 4 materia has shot up lately. I imagine a lot of people will be trying to put 3 of them on the Artisan body.
IDK, it seems like the most reasonable method would be something like 2 Crafts4, 1 Control4, then overmeld a CP3, and the last is just another crafts or control 1/2, depending on how "perfect" you want it.

That said, the Artisan Gown is almost as good as a "super-perfectly" (not possible) melded i55 body, but for every class.
So get the Artisan Gown. Get an Artisan Apron crafted, and wait for materia prices to go down. Or get an FC group together and SB the now easy to obtain I70 crafting armors in Hullbreaker Isle or something. Get your Grade 4 materias from there.

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From what I see, the i70 crafting gears are not convertible. :o

[db:item=99c6eca5f63]Artisan's Gown[/db:item]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/99c6eca5f63/

can anyone share a rotation to get these 40 Dur 3 stars?

I'm having major struggle right now x_x

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Originally Posted by tocsin

p.s. I hate that my spelling autocorrect always makes materia into material.

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right click it when you've corrected the spelling. add to dictionary.. problem solved