[Suggestion] Linkable items in the chat window

Hello,

To start I'd like to apologize if I did not post this in the right section and if this was suggested before.

With the addition of the item database on the forums (ok I know the ZAM database isn't up to date but let's pretend) I think it would be great if the items you loot and the items you have in your inventore could also have this feature so that you could put your mouse over the item name in the game and see the status window for that item.

For exemple, you are running a dungeon and someone gets a piece of armor in their loot list. Everyone sees the name of it but instead of having to ask the person if it's good for them and what the stats are you could just put your mouse over the item and see for yourself if it's something you'd like. (this could be also solved by having a common loot list and having to bid/pass on items)

Another exemple would be to link items to friends in the linkshell.

Anyways, this is just a suggestion among others to improve the interface and playability.

comments?

Yes I would like to see this also, Rentahamster posted something similar to this a while back where it was suggested, not heard anything from the devs about it.

I hate current lot system... FFXI one was better :|

I suggest making a new one that's a combo of the two: now, when someone gets an item in their loot list, there are only 3 (?) options: Take, Trade, Discard. Why dont add a fourth one... "Share" or something like that... That puts the item in a shared loot (but the loot window is the same... maybe the shared item has a special icon or something like that) where everyone can "Cast lot".

This combo would be nice since:
- FFXIV lot system is still there, nice for not so important items
- FFXI shared cast lot system is there just after the player choose "Share", so that's nice for r/e equipment... (actually it's not that good when, for example, doing a dungeon run with non-LS players a XXX item drop -eg. GLA item- but ends up in a THM loot and he/she doesnt know who to trade it maybe because there are more GLA that need it)

We know that the ability to link items, as well as quests and maps, into the chat window is an extremely convenient feature, and while it would be very difficult to implement, we will do our best to research just how feasible it will be to introduce.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We know that the ability to link items, as well as quests and maps, into the chat window is an extremely convenient feature, and while it would be very difficult to implement, we will do our best to research just how feasible it will be to introduce.

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Wow ^^ thanks a lot for the reply Rukkirii! I hope we can do that someday, it's fun to see things our friends get and it's more convenient when loot drops in instances ^^

and yay for my 1st rep answer in one of my post!

absolutely loved this feature in wow, you can link anything like, item quests, skills in the chat , and when you click on them a pop up window appear with his description, stats etc .. Really nice feature.

They cant do that cause of the server issues.
That's why we can't have a decent search feature, or a mail, or anything in this game.
But i'm sure they'll look into it and in a year or two, we'll see something.

Damn server issues at it again...

This would be a fantastic addition to the chat log and is something that is common in almost every other MMO.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We know that the ability to link items, as well as quests and maps, into the chat window is an extremely convenient feature, and while it would be very difficult to implement, we will do our best to research just how feasible it will be to introduce.

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Wow nothing against Rukkirii or the dev team but what does it say about this company that a feature from 2004 is "very difficult" to implement in this game?

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Originally Posted by Neptune

Wow nothing against Rukkirii or the dev team but what does it say about this company that a feature from 2004 is "very difficult" to implement in this game?

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Nothing.

If they would have built the game with that feature in mind, it certainly wouldn't be a problem for them. But now they already have the complete code and adding stuff like linkable items may require to rewrite a huge chunk of it.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

Wow nothing against Rukkirii or the dev team but what does it say about this company that a feature from 2004 is "very difficult" to implement in this game?

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It's been answered numerous times:

1. Server side interface
2. Foundation (core) is being redone.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We know that the ability to link items, as well as quests and maps, into the chat window is an extremely convenient feature, and while it would be very difficult to implement, we will do our best to research just how feasible it will be to introduce.

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Why is it so difficult? Every MMO since FFXI that I know of or played first-hand has managed to implement this feature either at launch or shortly afterwards.

Honestly its the same functionality that these Forums just recently implemented with the [ item] [/item ] tags; other games use XML for their IRC/chat client and use Xlinks to dynamically link items and tool tips. If SE doesn't use this system currently, they should look into implementing it. Tear it down and start over, just get it done before all of these non-essential fixes or fluff like seasonal events.

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Originally Posted by Chiz

Why is it so difficult? Every MMO since FFXI that I know of or played first-hand has managed to implement this feature either at launch or shortly afterwards.

Honestly its the same functionality that these Forums just recently implemented with the [ item] [/item ] tags; other games use XML for their IRC/chat client and use Xlinks to dynamically link items and tool tips. If SE doesn't use this system currently, they should look into implementing it. Tear it down and start over, just get it done before all of these non-essential fixes or fluff like seasonal events.

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Servers issue/ Coding issue it took them about 5years to make Crystal tools then they start making ffxiv. By then crystal tools was outdated when they start working on ffxiv. Reason why FFXIV is how it is now and hard to add anything due to how bad the crystal tool was done. DX9,Lag,issue adding mail system and many other thing are the reason we can't have party search and many other stuff.

Crystal tool was done so bad it was hard to make this game they only start about i would say 1year before E3 of 2009 seeing how the game was only 50% done by gamescom which tell you the game was not getting work on that much due to the delay of Crystal tools. They start making up ideas and such for ffxiv around COP tho.

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Originally Posted by Efrye

Nothing.

If they would have built the game with that feature in mind, it certainly wouldn't be a problem for them. But now they already have the complete code and adding stuff like linkable items may require to rewrite a huge chunk of it.

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Thats what happens when you have an old ignorant noob at the top running the operation when he knows sweet fuck all about the actual product. And obviously gave up any sort of passion for his craft along time ago.

*cough* wada *cough*

hahahaha, its nothing to do with server stuff or fundamental core, hell people made mods for games to implement this feature without knowing any of the game stuff, because the community have to do everything to fix any SE game lol.

Kind of pathetic, but you can kind of tell, eg the forum item bbcode is total trash and i find it hilarious it links to zam and is poorly functional.

Cant expect more.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We know that the ability to link items, as well as quests and maps, into the chat window is an extremely convenient feature, and while it would be very difficult to implement, we will do our best to research just how feasible it will be to introduce.

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Why is everything other mmos have by default so difficult for FFXIV to implement? Is it another of these server related issues you guys have?

Face it, claiming this to be a next gen mmo is a pretty bold-faced lie. This game lacks even the basics of last gen MMOs. Yes, I still play and enjoy the game somewhat.

There's still no denying that this game feels like a septic tank covered in a layer of roses. It's beautiful on the top but under all of the fancy graphics lays a dated system with almost nothing to be considered next gen, heck it struggles to keep up with the standards of last gen MMOs. Saying things like item-linking would be hard to implement doesn't help your cause one tiny bit.

Extremely difficult under the current badly programmed architecture.

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Originally Posted by Kam

Thats what happens when you have an old ignorant noob at the top running the operation when he knows sweet fuck all about the actual product. And obviously gave up any sort of passion for his craft along time ago.

*cough* wada *cough*

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I think your coughed up the wrong name, Kam.

And let's once and for all dismiss this silly urban legend the fanboys created to re-balance their inner haters (not talking about you Kam, but the people that, a while back, decided Hiromichi Tanaka could not have been the one that screwed up the game, so they found the next-in-kin to blame, and invented a story full of back-office backstabbing to convince themselves.)

The only feasible culprit for this sort of pathetic oversight (which by the way, as we all know, is replicated thousandfold in the game's lackings) is Tanaka.

Wada, not precisely an innocent lamb, is a bureaucrat with a financial background (he was once Square's CFO!) that, frankly, could not have been within a mile of the game's code and system implementation. He has no background in system design, coding or game production; he never wrote a line of code, anywhere. That doesn't make him blameless in the FFXIV debacle, but certainly, we cannot blame him for the absence of essentials, like this, the game should have included no matter what.

Tanaka was always the ostrich-like fool, who thought it virtuous not to even try any of the world's other successful MMOs. He designed some good old games, but the world in which they were good changed, and Tanaka never noticed.

Again, this is yet another example of how Tanaka, Garriott, McQuaid, and quite a few others, the pioneers and parents of the MMORPG movement, failed to adapt to the technological leaps that the genre they helped create took as their initial successes aged. This is the typical case of the hero falling asleep amidst his laurels: Every MMO each one of those historic names created after their initial, successful one, was a monumental failure. Remember Vanguard and Tabula Rasa, and the rest?

(An exasperated) Rut

SE should fire all server-side engineer and employ all new team that have the required experience...
Most MMO can do it but yeah it because of "Server Issue" and "We didn't designed this feature from the start"

This will be a very cool and helpful feature when added.

Is "Server-Side Issues" the new "Playstation-2 Limitations?"

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Originally Posted by Efrye

Nothing.

If they would have built the game with that feature in mind, it certainly wouldn't be a problem for them. But now they already have the complete code and adding stuff like linkable items may require to rewrite a huge chunk of it.

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Sorry but WoW didn't originally have these features built in from the beginning, its not any different.