Desynthsis: will this ever be fixed (devs)

Not doubt be raised before but has there been any statement relating to deleveling issue?
im currently 90.44 gsm 72.34 bsm 5 weaver, its extremely frustrating having to cycle between each class in order to level a desynth without deleveling another
it just makes no sense at all that we need to do this, desynth is the most expensive craft to cap yet this issue is still on going

If you weren't aware, if you successfully desynth for a class, that class will not delevel for the next 3 successful desynths, no matter what.

So, if you succeed a GSM desynth, then do 3 successful BSM desynths, you won't get any delevel from GSM. I guess ideally you would cap 1 desynth to 100, then while working on your second one, do 1 GSM, 3 BSM (successful ones, breaks don't matter), repeat. Leveling your third desynth skill would be really annoying, of course.

I think the more annoying thing is that you don't have enough possible points to get 100 desynth in 3 different skills. It's like, what, 100, 100, then 96-97 or something? Gee... thanks.

Anyway, I doubt they will ever "fix" this issue, since it's exactly how they designed it to work. And honestly, the delevel is like 0.01, and only happens sometimes. Not that it's not annoying, but it's not exactly game breaking.

They were supposed to fix a way to lock them.

Great thread. I was thinking about this recently as well. Here's the old quote from the Devs:

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings,

In the future we will be looking into adding a feature that will allow you to lock your desynthesis skills to ensure that they are not lowered when raising another. However, we just wanted to let you know that there is actually a way to prevent the lowering of skills you don’t want to lower, but we’d like for players to experiment and find out how to do it.

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Hi Grekumah & Dev Team,

Just wondering if there's been any update on this Desynthesis Lock feature? Can we expect it soon?

I know there's a workaround, but this is just a nice feature to have from a general quality of life point of view. And it makes the whole Desynthesis system feel more user-friendly. :)

Thanks!

I agree. We could really use an update on this feature.

@ hiruke - yeah im aware of the work around, the main issue is the only stackable item that exists are the zodiac items which were recently added.
Now apart from these if you plan on levelling you will need to carry a ton of additional items in order to maintain levels, my inventory and retainers are already full to capacity due to crafting aswell not to mention the shear volume of mats i obtain by desynthing mb stuff that's cost efficient
0.01 doesn't sound alot but when it just cost me 100k to gain a 0.04 thats like robbing me of 25k... gimme my 0.01 back

@ Kiara - thanks for that good to know in the future we will get it, crafting has had some major buffs done i.e the lowering of requirements for artisan tools and head piece yet us desynthers are still getting screwed

I have like 50 million NQ calibrated rose gold cogs to keep mine stable. Of course, if you've already gotten your master II...though they're not all that expensive to make. They're stackable, I assume the same for other DoH too.

any news devs :( really dont want to start leveling my 3rd desynth it will be a nightmare

Isnt this were the Alchemist books come in? that Reset a Desynth skill to 1 . You can have a maximum of 300 points . Aslong as that isnt reached there should be no decreases or am i wrong there? If not reset all your "unwanted" Desynth to 1 with the 4 star Books from Alchemist. and Happy lvling.

dragonedge as you level another skill it will delevel an already leveled desynth skill regardless of the 300 point cap, there is a work around by switching between your desynth skills and performing successful desynths ie
bsm bsm bsm gsm wvr bsm
this will lock your desynth skill for the space of 3 or desynths but this is not only costly but takes up valuable inventory, we really should not have to do this, imagine leveling warrior and watching your white mage delevel..

yes, please fix!

Did not know there is a workaround bit it seems costly and highly annoying. Please let us lock the ones se don't wanna delevelled

There's no menu option to view all of my desynth levels... or am I missing something?

you can view desynth level via the character screen, click on gsm and desynth will be displayed

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Originally Posted by Hiruke

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Or you know, they could take the BS out of the equation and just lock the Desynth level.
We already get a finite amount of points in regards to leveling up Desynthesis and we now have the means to reset that level.
Given that the above is true, there is no real rhyme or reason as to why Desynthesis levels aren't locked like normal crafting.

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Originally Posted by Hiruke

If you weren't aware, if you successfully desynth for a class, that class will not delevel for the next 3 successful desynths, no matter what.

So, if you succeed a GSM desynth, then do 3 successful BSM desynths, you won't get any delevel from GSM. I guess ideally you would cap 1 desynth to 100, then while working on your second one, do 1 GSM, 3 BSM (successful ones, breaks don't matter), repeat. Leveling your third desynth skill would be really annoying, of course.

I think the more annoying thing is that you don't have enough possible points to get 100 desynth in 3 different skills. It's like, what, 100, 100, then 96-97 or something? Gee... thanks.

Anyway, I doubt they will ever "fix" this issue, since it's exactly how they designed it to work. And honestly, the delevel is like 0.01, and only happens sometimes. Not that it's not annoying, but it's not exactly game breaking.

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Things start to change a bit once you've hit the 300/300 cap for desynth. The safe for 3 successful desynths doesn't always apply. I've witnessed on several occasions that the third desynth will, at times, cause one of my other skills to delvl. I've also lost skill on a unsuccessful desynth. Whether these are bugs or not, I can't say, but it's something to be aware of nonetheless. Also, once you hit the 300 overall cap, for any amount gained in one skill you will lose an equal amount in another. I.E. +.23 gained in GSM, -.23 lost in BSM. One last thing, do your desynthing next to a materials vendor and desynth a lvl 1 item.

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Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru

this will lock your desynth skill for the space of 3 or desynths but this is not only costly but takes up valuable inventory, we really should not have to do this, imagine leveling warrior and watching your white mage delevel..

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The cycling is hardly expensive at all, you don't need to desynth stuff at your desynth level to lock the craft. I just make L1-5 items and blow them up, doesn't take much space at all as I can hold onto a stack of the mats rather than the item itself, so I can always make more when I intend on desynthing more.

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Originally Posted by gamesmart

The cycling is hardly expensive at all, you don't need to desynth stuff at your desynth level to lock the craft. I just make L1-5 items and blow them up, doesn't take much space at all as I can hold onto a stack of the mats rather than the item itself, so I can always make more when I intend on desynthing more.

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It is extremely annoying to maintain after a while, especially when you're talking about 3 separate desynth classes. In this case if you're leveling class C, you need to desynth a cheap class A & class B item before every 2 of class C. It's really repetitive in a bad way.

Allowing a player to lock/unlock each individual desynth skill such that locked skills did not delevel would be SO much cleaner and vastly preferable.

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Originally Posted by Giantbane

It is extremely annoying to maintain after a while, especially when you're talking about 3 separate desynth classes. In this case if you're leveling class C, you need to desynth a cheap class A & class B item before every 2 of class C. It's really repetitive in a bad way.

Allowing a player to lock/unlock each individual desynth skill such that locked skills did not delevel would be SO much cleaner and vastly preferable.

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I'm actually working on my third desynth (I have Goldsmith and Leatherworker up high, turning my attention to Weaver when I'm not busy juggling raiding and capping Poetics on two characters alongside class and homework and all that), and while I do agree that it could be improved on, I honestly think it's not that bad as it is right now. Though I feel like I have a higher tolerance level for stuff like this than most others.

i don't really think the economy can support high level desynth in some worlds. The money just isn't there to get all the mats. I mean, i see people with 130 million on youtube but like, if desynth is supposed to help someone transition to 4 star, this cap sucking reversion thing the OP is talking about... no, it doesn't even promote continuing account payment. There's a level after challenge, called too challenging, then after that it goes annoying, then frustrating, irritating, and some other terms game designers use... eventually you get to the "not worth it" and "cancelling account to go do irl stuff instead of paying for this game".

They need to either fix desynth or fix the RNG. I don't care how shiny the new dungeons get.

YES! anyone read the desynthsis patch notes :) no more level decreases, 350 points and a level cap increase to 110!!!!!

mission accomplished