Got bored did a player search and found something strange..

Was curious how many people were in each of the starter towns. In the morning time USA on ultros, there were around 30 people in gridania and limsa liminsa, but in Ul'dah it showed over 100 peaple. I noticed 80% of those were all blm's.

I started checking um and they all shows up as only blm leveld to 50, with archery at 15. So many people with the exact same search info.

I found that really weird. I guss there must be a huge BLM alliance or something on this server Oo.

Anyone else notice this?

Bots and more bots

RMT /10char

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stuff-in-FFXIV

Bots beyond Bots. Square has been taking their sweet time about these.

Why blm idk, easy to program simple casting commands without having to move or anything for combat?

they seriously need to come up with a different system for catching these guys... not just we send a /tell and if they respond blah blah. If it is that obvious to us then what does it look like to them? $$$?

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Bots beyond Bots. Square has been taking their sweet time about these.

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i really gotta think people ignore information that is posted at regular intervals. just a week or so ago nearly 7000 chrs were banned for RMT/botting. will this stop people from doing those two things? no, but it does have an affect.

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

i really gotta think people ignore information that is posted at regular intervals. just a week or so ago nearly 7000 chrs were banned for RMT/botting. will this stop people from doing those two things? no, but it does have an affect.

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Gotta really think people like you are making a lot of assumptions about what I do or don't know off of 2 offhand sentences. I'm well aware of the task force posts. Notice however the task force just did a ban wave yet tons of these bots still exist, and no they all aren't brand new to replace old ones. On Balmung many remain that were there before the ban wave. There are bots that have been around for months that have survived a few ban waves. Thank you for being as bad as the people you made fun of. A simple task force post in no way shape or form paints a proper image about the nature of this problem across the game.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Gotta really think people like you are making a lot of assumptions about what I do or don't know off of 2 offhand sentences. I'm well aware of the task force posts. Notice however the task force just did a ban wave yet tons of these bots still exist, and no they all aren't brand new to replace old ones. On Balmung many remain that were there before the ban wave. Thank you for being as bad as the people you made fun of.

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not sure where you saw me making fun of you, but as stated by others, there are ways to get around the "respond to all gm tells". not all of the bots will get caught, however i know on cactuar, of the bots i had come to always see, they were gone after this ban wave.
also note, i didnt specify you yourself in regards to the "taking their sweet time".

Same here! Siren server! <.<;
Those easy-to-see-gil-farming-bots even has there own clans... I saw plenty of them having 4-5 lv120 gears... wich makes me sad...
20-30 had the nerve to camp in Mor Dohna near tome shops for days! Showing us there "earned" lv100-120 gears! <,<
They always do wonder palace or that hard lv47 dungeon where a Morbol is final boss, for around 5mins.

Edit: ca7000 rmts got banned. but I just did player search "lv1-50 blm/thm, Uldah" and boom..
still to many.. ca 140!! 8 are at the make, killing field mobs to lv up, while teleporting around the game maps! >.<

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

not sure where you saw me making fun of you

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Well it's simple. When you respond with a quote to what I said with something like the following...

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

i really gotta think people ignore information that is posted at regular intervals

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It makes it come across as direct response to me specifically. Thus is the nature of quoting people and then responding to the quote. Everything you say is in the context of that quote and response. If that isn't what you meant then I challenge you to make your intentions more clear in the future.

They weren't making fun of you. It was a direct statement outright at how many people think Square just does nothing with bots, despite the annual posts from them saying how many characters they banned for illegal activities.

Really glad I leveled BLM first thing at launch :x Would hate to be taken for a bot.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

It was a direct statement outright at how many people think Square just does nothing with bots, despite the annual posts from them saying how many characters they banned for illegal activities.

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A) Then don't quote someone for outright statements. Quotes change the context.

B) That's great, but there are plenty they missed. They've been taking their sweet time to do the job right and they still, even after the recent ban wave, leave much to be desired. They haven't done the job right at all, and bots that have been here for months still rampage of Balmung. Square is being lazy and it's obvious.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

They weren't making fun of you. It was a direct statement outright at how many people think Square just does nothing with bots, despite the annual posts from them saying how many characters they banned for illegal activities.

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I agree with that. Tiggy makes an over-exaggerated attention seeking inflated statement about SE and bots, someone uses that as an example of how people ignore the bulletins (which they do and Tiggy's statement was a shining example of that), then Tiggy gets offended and requests people "change the context" of their posts when quoting? Smh.

They weren't making fun of you. Grow some thicker skin.

You want a painted picture? Here's one:

I regularly buy up large stacks of shards from RMTs (or presumed rmts, I use "presumed" loosely) break them up and sell them off in smaller stacks. I get free shards and people get the quantity their looking for. The other day, they were gone...all of them. The largest stack of shards on the MB was around 200 or so, and almost no one was selling more than 2 stacks.

I don't like rmts like anyone else. But saying 7000 bans is doing nothing is just ignorant.

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Well it's simple. When you respond with a quote to what I said with something like the following...



It makes it come across as direct response to me specifically. Thus is the nature of quoting people and then responding to the quote. Everything you say is in the context of that quote and response. If that isn't what you meant then I challenge you to make your intentions more clear in the future.

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seeing as how Miles and Stihl Lodeing seemed to understand my intention, it looks like it was clear enough. it is possible that you missunderstood.

There were some bots in Gridania yesterday at the Aetheryte. They had Eveningstar (is that it?) and weathered Noct accessories. I reported them, too.

I kinda like it if they didn't ban the spamming bots, that way I don't have to keep blocking them :P block once and forget :P

Also on Leviathan, also have noticed this a lot lately when I port there. They all hang out around the main Aetheryte (however you spell it) stone.

I see it on Sarg sometimes, too. They usually disappear after a ban wave and then slowly trickle back in depending on how often character creation is opened. This is why they are suddenly rampant on heavily populated servers lile Balmung.

Although I do wish reporting bots were simpler, the fact is, SE does have a team work on it and said team IS making a difference.

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Originally Posted by Drako

Why blm idk, easy to program simple casting commands without having to move or anything for combat?

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Because spiritbonding, and running dungeons with 4 blms synced together from one controller/command (aka multiboxing). If only SE wised up to this.

The people from Ul'dah only care about money, it's no surprise the RMT bots come from there.

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Originally Posted by Shori

Because spiritbonding, and running dungeons with 4 blms synced together from one controller/command (aka multiboxing). If only SE wised up to this.

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See, they DO know. They'd have to be blind not to. They have at least three community managers (EU, NA, and JP) all telling them this. Their CS staff is receiving regular reports about this, and their staff that actually PLAYS sees it on a regular basis.
The problem is, squashing them is like squashing the worker bees. The longer these bots are active, the more transactions they do with compromised accounts and RMTers, and as evidenced by a whole slew of them popping up IMMEDIATELY after SE dropped the banhammer on 7000 of them, just banning them will cause them to fire up MORE accounts and do the same exact things.
Thus, they ban them with a large net, rather than a single fishing pole.

It's really getting old seeing people copy/paste SE's official statements on how many accounts they're banning as if they are somehow proving SE cares and is doing anything proactive at all. It's like a bad meme at this point. 6913 accounts banned across 63 servers is a little over 100 accounts per server. That is basically a meaningless gesture in the face of how many RMT-related accounts are out there, and this most recent banning wave was actually considerably larger than the usual amount (I assume it was some sort of extra large once-a-year ban wave). The usual amount being banned per weekly update averages out to like, 12 accounts per server. Only a rube thinks that many removed accounts is having any positive impact on RMT activities. Maybe it's just enough to keep them from completely running rampant over the entire server, but it's not enough to actually decrease the amount of RMT out there on any given day. Which is exactly what SE wants. RMT accounts are still paying accounts (even stolen credit cards are still $$$, after all) and eliminating too many would just end up hurting SE financially, not helping them. They ban enough to keep the game playable and keep the QQ'ers from actually quitting, but only that much. When SE starts banning thousands of accounts across all servers daily, on a consistent weekly basis, then I'll believe they are really trying.

I love how the bots allude to the black mages from FFIX. even botters are Final Fantasy fans, I guess.

http://i.imgur.com/o7Krskn.jpg

Nah, bots probably roll BLM cause it's the easiest class to "program".

Has anyone ever thought of making a character exactly like these bots, but just for the hell of it?

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Has anyone ever thought of making a character exactly like these bots, but just for the hell of it?

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There's one in my server lol, glamoured into bot outfit even with weapon and accesories.

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Originally Posted by Shori

Because spiritbonding, and running dungeons with 4 blms synced together from one controller/command (aka multiboxing). If only SE wised up to this.

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Just saying, but if they were just doing what you mentioned there, and nothing else (RMT actions) this isn't against ToS at all, and is perfectly acceptable. just because you don't/cant/too lazy to do it to make gil, doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed. its just selling the gains for real money that is not allowed.