Well I've come back to the game for the first time in months after hearing good things about the latest patch, and I've noticed there still arn't any real aggroing mobs around Lower La Noscea. Never thought I would miss it, but in FFXI we had beastmen and skeletons lurking in the lowbie areas, and though annoying, it gave the game a sense of danger and excitement. I eventually traveled from Limsa to Gridania and the entire way only saw one lonely gnat.
I feel safe not being attacked by something I didn't see after resting after a hard battle. Or getting slaughtered by goblins when I've almost made it to zone, but it feels a bit bland.
Does anyone else feel this way? Or is the game more dangerous once you get off the beaten path? I wait for an update that will place goblin muggers back in low level areas, and along main roads that will beat senseless the unaware adventurer.
Sense of danger?
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08-17-2011, 04:12 AMMikkoAkureSense of danger?
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08-17-2011, 04:13 AMTheVedis
the main paths between the starter areas is still relatively safe
but try going to a 50 camp and see what happens...youll notice a BIG difference(there are a few exceptions) -
08-17-2011, 04:15 AMredmage
It sounds like with the redesigning of the zones they have planned that mob placement will also be different. I'm hoping they will add some low level beastmen to experience.
I still remember that feeling of anxiety when I'd hear that tell-tale sound of an aggro back in XI. -
08-17-2011, 06:05 AMPhenidate
Low levels are fairly 'safe' now (no wandering Goobue near Bearded Rock, no Peiste around Blackbrush etc) but after r20 or so it picks up for sure.
Puks in Nanawa can be risky with smaller groups when Willowykes start respawning, sometimes two at a time in the same spot. The Amaljaa camp for the mid 20's wedges you between rank ~50s and rank 88 basilisks and drakes... There are also quite a few quests that send you through some 'dangerous' locations. Ahldskyf's second quest has you dodging r40 toads if you do it 'at rank', and Customer Comes First sends you into Cassie Holow where you have to dodge exploding Hares, aggro Orobons and if you're unlucky, the Unknown Soldier.
Granted, being r50 can nullify a lot that danger, your mileage may vary. A lot of deaths I've seen in groups come from people being half-aware when a willowykes starts beating on them or they don't move when a monster starts charging it's WS for a few seconds (i.e. Puks). -
08-17-2011, 06:30 AMTezz_Xivectro
Everything is safe for the most part. There are places in the open-world dungeons & around groups of aggroing monsters that seem dangerous.
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08-17-2011, 07:04 AMAtoli
Is everyone playing a different game from the one I am playing?xD
It certainly seems so, because when I travel from Limsa to Gridania, I usually lose count of how many times I'm attacked, including 2-3 deaths at least.
On my way from the sea to Ul'dah I get attacked and killed by ant-like things (~ rank 39?) which kill me with two hits, same goes for the way from Ul'dah to where the forest begins, only that there are rank 70-90 dragons, rank 40-50 dogs and other stuff there, too.
If I ever dare to stray from the path a little bit, I get caught by ~ rank 60 flies.
When I enter the forest, rank 50-70 baby dragons eat me for breakfast, and it's not like I have much space to go around them with those narrow ways.
Obviously I'm not attacking them, they are aggro.
They are either in the middle of the way or at least close to it.
And you are trying to tell me there's not enough sense of danger?o,O -
08-17-2011, 07:10 AMAzurymberyou must be playing a diff game or going WAY in the wrong direction. There are pretty well no agro mobs on roads. im 100% sure of this since i have like 6 chars now which i've ran to all cities at rank 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atoli
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08-17-2011, 07:16 AMFalcusI think you're playing a different game to me, I've never run into any of that going from city to city (except the occasional easy to avoid antling)Quote:
Originally Posted by Atoli
Those sorts of things, you will only run into if you go the completely wrong way, or some sort of "longcut" (like a shortcut but long) -
08-17-2011, 07:17 AMDelsusThe current areas are designed so if you roam off the beaten track you will find aggro mobs, if you follow the paths you will be alot safer, if you want the danger get off the paths (which take a longer route than you could run)Quote:
Originally Posted by Azurymber
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08-17-2011, 07:38 AMFelis
There are sometimes skeletons on the road between Camp Tranquill and Gridania in the night.
Near Halitali, you can find yourself surronded by rank 40+ ants if you go to much south.
Bandits blocking the way to Camp Bald Knoll.
And many raptors between Camp Skull Valley and Camp Iron Lake -
08-17-2011, 08:49 AMTheVedissometimes antlions do get close to the roads, but they are VERY easy to avoid unless you dont pay attentionQuote:
Originally Posted by Azurymber
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08-17-2011, 08:54 AMMikitaThere are still occasional antlings near the path to the west of Camp Horizon and near the narrow winding path that leads to Camp Drybone -- not always, but they are there at times. I just ran past the Drybone antlings yesterday while doing a Mining Guild quest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azurymber
Anyway, in the lower level areas especially, I think Square Enix is being considerate of people who play DoL classes. It's very frustrating if you can't complete a leve because there are dangerous mobs keeping you from your task.
If anyone wants danger, just try going to reach one of the off-the-beaten-path far flung aetheryte gates by yourself or even with a friend or two. Goobbues, Drakes, Raptors, etc. etc. Very exciting! ^^ -
08-17-2011, 09:13 AMMikkoAkureYou made a good point about DoL being defenseless against ambush. I just re-read the latest letter from the producer though and found out that DoL is getting sneaking abilities to be able to harvest in peace. The whole letter seems to me to be hinting at an expansion of beastmen throughout the areas, and a more dangerous world. I think what would really be exciting is roving parties of beastmen in higher level areas. Who wouldn't want party vs party combat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikita
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08-17-2011, 10:02 AMApplePie
If you afk in this game, you have the possibility of getting banned. I fear for my character's life every time I go to pee or get a drink of water.
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08-17-2011, 10:38 AMChocobits
So how do I get to to Quarrymill on my R26 character..? I've been looking and looking for a way but all the ways are tiny tiny little alleys filled with R50-75 Scorpions, Salamanders, think there were some Raptors? But yeah, there's literally no path I can find that I can safely travel. I'm so looking forward to this DoL stealth ability.
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08-17-2011, 10:50 AMyukaru
not that i would want a bunch of hard arrgo type enemies. but i do miss in ffxi when i 'd go outside of windhurst and stray to far as a low lvl and get a gob or yagudo on me but i liked that the aggroing mobs weren't like 20+ lvls higher..... (antlion)
so when i did get creamed, i could lvl up a lvl or 2 and go kick some beastman behind...... i know they are changing things.... (haven't read full details) so i hope they make it more like this.... not saying there shouldn't be higher one like the antlion... (keeps us on our toes.) but some lower lvl one helps...
ps. granted from a harvesting pov i guess i understand the hatred of aggro mobs..... i've raised a few people who ended up on the wrong end of angler or chigoe aggro... so i that could get annoying.. but i still miss the lower beastmen mobs like in ffxi -
08-17-2011, 11:36 AMMrKupoIt seems you are going through the path going past Toto-Rak when you SHOULD be going south of that. There's no aggro mobs south of quarrymill, so you should try that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobits
And back on topic, I have been ambushed by so many mobs.
Gnats, poachers, wolves, footpads, bee swarms... and that's all pre-r30s areas. Wait until you get to the r36 story quest. You can just stroll along to Mor Dohna, its so safe (/sarcasm) -
08-17-2011, 12:16 PMTezz_Xivectro
Near & Around Camp Bald Knoll (LL), there's an assortment of clusterf!*k groups that aggro too.
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08-17-2011, 12:32 PMJynxHuh? Not sure I understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApplePie
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08-17-2011, 12:34 PMMikitaIf you go from Camp Tranquil and head east, then go up the ramp and follow the maze a bit, you will come out a bit south west of Quarrymill and can proceed from there. There are no aggro monsters along that path.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobits
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Back to the main topic, there is quite a bit of adventure to be had if you go looking for it.
There are many aggressive monsters all over the map, especially if you go off the main roads.
Make it a game of trying to get to any of the more remote aetheryte gates by yourself and you can have quite an adrenaline rush. ^^
Getting to Mor Dhona on foot can be fun too.
A friend and I tried to get there from the western shroud, and had to run past a morbol, drakes, raptors and efts. It took us about 10 tries, but we finally made it -- my friend, a R50 Gladiator, with just 2 HP left on the last dash!
Sometimes it's nice to put aside the leveling and item rewards, and just explore and have fun. ^^ -
08-17-2011, 12:37 PMMikitaThere's another thread about someone who says they got banned for going AFK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jynx
Huh? Not sure I understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApplePie
Don't go AFK it's dangerous
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...it-s-dangerous
But like others replied in that thread, I've been AFK for hours on end, and never once had any trouble.
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08-17-2011, 12:45 PMJynx
Oh~ I've sat AFK for DAYS on end baring a disconect.
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08-17-2011, 04:32 PMSuzakuCMX
There's a lot of antling diggers that like to hang out close to the paths between R10 and R20 camps.....it's really annoying sometimes but not much a problem if you're R25 or more.