Sony and Square Enix Shame on You!

So PSN dropped for maintenance, and Square has planned maintenance tonight as well for the 2.45 hotfix.

How about instead you give your employees off early on this fine Christmas Eve like 99% of the other businesses world wide and stop jacking with prime gaming time!

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We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.

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I can't speak for everyone else, but don't thank me for understanding, because I don't understand... I can't possibly think of a worse evening to take away our toys. :confused:

europe PSN = online

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Originally Posted by Felis

europe PSN = online

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Not for everyone sadly (seems to be USA so far though); https://support.us.playstation.com/a...atus%3A-online

and this need a thread ?

Also, not everyone in the world celebrates Christmas...it is a Christian holiday, after all...

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

and this need a thread ?

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It's been made clear that the Lodestone forums are for players to give feedback. Any and all consumer opinions hold value.

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Also, not everyone in the world celebrates Christmas...it is a Christian holiday, after all...

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<-- Clearly missed the point.

There was a point?

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

It's been made clear that the Lodestone forums are for players to give feedback. Any and all consumer opinions hold value.

<-- Clearly missed the point.

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Don't forget to make the same thread in the Sony forum

Also in Japan it's Christmas Day, which is about as important an actual day as New Years day is in the U.S.
People usually do their celebrating on christmas eve, while christmas day is more or less morning stuff and then to work.
Hell the only reason most businesses actually give Christmas off to their employees in Japan is because it conveniently falls the day before the Emperor's birthday. In fact that being an actual national holiday is why they're doing it now and not the day after christmas...because THAT is a bigger holiday (for time off) for them!
Now, New Years on the other hand...don't expect ANYTHING to get done until January 5th if it involves a Japanese company.

Also many places don't count Christmas eve as a holiday, just Christmas day. Same for New Years eve, whereas Jan 1 is the actual holiday. Maybe they did maintenance now so that the employees can actually have Christmas day off. Makes since to me.

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Originally Posted by QiLymePye

Also many places don't count Christmas eve as a holiday, just Christmas day. Same for New Years eve, whereas Jan 1 is the actual holiday. Maybe they did maintenance now so that the employees can actually have Christmas day off. Makes since to me.

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As I pointed out, the opposite is actually true as it concerns the Japanese employees, whereas for the American employees that's probably true :P
Funny how time zones work!

Also OP, where do you get that 99% of the world give their employees Christmas Eve off? Unless they dont celebrate Christmas, I expect at least 65 to 75 percent of companies around the world..especially huge companies are open for business today.

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Originally Posted by QiLymePye

Also OP, where do you get that 99% of the world give their employees Christmas Eve off? Unless they dont celebrate Christmas, I expect at least 65 to 75 percent of companies around the world..especially huge companies are open for business today.

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it's the fallacy people have that just because they celebrate something, everyone else does.
I'm sure some people would be shocked to learn it was 80 degrees here on christmas eve today too...

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Originally Posted by kyuven

it's the fallacy people have that just because they celebrate something, everyone else does.
I'm sure some people would be shocked to learn it was 80 degrees here on christmas eve today too...

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I know. Im on east coast and we are having pretty warm weather for Christmas Eve also. I think its 65 out right now

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Originally Posted by QiLymePye

I know. Im on east coast and we are having pretty warm weather for Christmas Eve also. I think its 65 out right now

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65? So chilly! It was so warm this afternoon i had to open my windows and turn on my fan.

So you want them to send everyone home and shut down the servers? Cause those things will not stay on for long with no one watching over them...

And before you tell me to stop playing and go celebrate, I'm stuck in a hospital bed <_<;;

Damn, im sorry to hear that. I hope you are getting better..but on another note...the hospital you are in lets you play final fantasy?! thats awesome

Where I live lots of shops are open and will be open tomorrow.

I worked today even. Although I work in a family business so I'm basically on call 247. lol

I'm spending time with my family for the holiday, not playing the game. I will be playing again on Friday and over the weekend when I don't have to work. Personally, i'm glad they're doing maintenance tonight because it's better for my schedule. I know it's not going to work that way for everyone, but you can't make everyone happy! I consider myself lucky that it worked out this way.

How dare you OP for thinking everyone is the same????

Just like the person above. I'm actually not playing tonight either, I'm currently out of town. For a lot of the people that celebrate Christmas, it is a time to gather together with family and friends so there's probably less activity on the servers, which is another good reason for them to schedule a maint for tonight.

It doesn't hurt to take a bit of time off from the game. I'm only going to be away for a few hours to go have dinner at a coworkers house since we're overseas and I'm not married.

Well, the maintenance is happening right now on Christmas in Southeast Asia. I don't think many people would be happy waking up on a public holiday with a hangover from celebrations the night before, only to find out that SE pulled the servers down for a maintenance again.

I just read through the other thread, and I pray that this maintenance is to add the special Starlight celebration items that are supposedly only becoming available on Christmas eve onwards

Not everyone believe in Christ, please don't force your holidays onto me. I would gladly work it and have worked it in the past it's just another day, but I get the day off where I currently work.

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

I can't speak for everyone else, but don't thank me for understanding, because I don't understand... I can't possibly think of a worse evening to take away our toys. :confused:

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Someone apparently doesn't have a family to go home to for the holidays. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

So PSN dropped for maintenance, and Square has planned maintenance tonight as well for the 2.45 hotfix.

How about instead you give your employees off early on this fine Christmas Eve like 99% of the other businesses world wide and stop jacking with prime gaming time!


I can't speak for everyone else, but don't thank me for understanding, because I don't understand... I can't possibly think of a worse evening to take away our toys. :confused:

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You do realize both Xbox live and PSN were hit with ddos attacks last night? Thank lizard squad for this.

Dear OP,

You know this may be a news flash but Square and Sony are two different companies. Square has literally ZERO control over Sony's maintenance schedule so you coming here acting like you have a right to be upset at Square over what Sony is doing is unjustified in it's entirety. You have a Playstation instead of a PC. This is something you have to deal with. I have a PC and this has never once been an issue. You made your bed by choosing to play on a Sony console so it's time to be happy with the consequences.

This may also be a news flash but not everyone celebrates Christmas so please don't think you're helping people who may very well be happy to have the hours and the paycheck for working last night.

You don't speak for everyone. Your indignation is misplaced.

Lastly, if you think Sony would actually see this post on this forum then you are sorely mistaken.

Dear Tiggy,

If I thought Square and Sony were the same company I wouldn't have put "Square and Sony".

As for the rest of you arguing about who celebrates Christmas and who doesn't... it was never about that. The thread is about managing a maintenance Schedule. When all of the Children are out of school, and everyone is on vacation for the holidays, there will be an influx of people playing video games.

When there is an influx of people playing video games it is a bad time for maintenance. <--- The point

Now for those who seem so concerned about my personal situation rather than the point;

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Someone apparently doesn't have a family to go home to for the holidays. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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I have 4 children who were unable to play their brand new PS4 last night. (PSN got the same rant from me as square did) Personally I play on PC,

let me explain... when you sit with your family on Christmas Eve who's disappointed about not being able to use their new present... or get on the PC and enjoy the next best thing... What you do next is you go to the companies involved and express your disappointment, in hopes they will take note and avoid things like this in the future.

as for Tiggy who think I'm crucifying Square for Sony's actions. It looks more like DDoS on Sony's end, where Square on the other hand made this choice.

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

If it was DDoS, shame on them too!

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I don't think there's any argument that DDoSers need to have horrible things happen to them. It's kinda funny how they really have become the Scrooge and Grinch wrapped into one ugly misshapen package of hate this year. But at least those two grew a conscience.
It really isn't sony's fault your kids couldn't enjoy their PS4.

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

When there is an influx of people playing video games it is a bad time for maintenance. <--- The point

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Perhaps statements like

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

How about instead you give your employees off early on this fine Christmas Eve like 99% of the other businesses world wide and stop jacking with prime gaming time!

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completely distracted from your point and made you come off as nothing more than a whiner more concerned about the holiday for people working. So if I so misunderstood your message I would encourage you to use your words to better convey what you actually mean in the future. Any misunderstandings are because you failed to convey what you actually meant, or maybe you didn't and you're backtracking after everyone jumped down your throat. Who knows.

As for Square they went down for maintenance pretty late at night. So if you were on the west coast the servers went down around 9pm. If you're on the east cost they went down at midnight. Near the end of the day for one coast and completely at the end of the day for the other coast. If that little bit at the end of the day ruined Christmas then honestly you probably need to rethink how you celebrate. FFXIV isn't that important.

As for Sony if it was a DDoS then people should be mad at the hackers who thought it was a good idea to interrupt Christmas for people. Still not a Square problem. Even if it was Sony it's entirely pointless to even bring it up here. Seems petty to even mention it here since it wouldn't change a thing. It's good to complain on Sony's forum for Sony problems, but pretty ridiculous to complain about Sony problems on the Square forum.