I don't know why they deside this... :mad:
Why can't we "destroy" our character how we want?
Isn't this kind of game where people can customize characters?
I'm so happy distributing my points in all and any stats that I want, and remove that, will make us all the same character just with diferent clothes. This decision is not good.
I know that they will not do any that change on it, but I need to write this, to let us and them know that this kind of desicions is a bad planing to personalize our characters.
Is decided that the races are good for nothing, and now, everybody will be good for nothing and everybody will be the same character as others.
PERSONALIZE CHARACTERS IS GOING TO HELL... :mad:
Removing physical LVL??
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08-16-2011, 03:54 AMCuauhRemoving physical LVL??
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08-16-2011, 03:55 AMPlatinumstorm
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It's a good change. Physical level stats have killed balance and perhaps is the reason why bikini raiding is possible.
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08-16-2011, 03:55 AMBloodLotus
I'm posting once.. don't bother guys let this one get buried.
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08-16-2011, 03:56 AMmysterytaruYou're a little late to the party. This has been known for *months*. It was asked for by the majority of players in the poll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuauh
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08-16-2011, 03:57 AMShikaree
Your first post /facepalm
Maybe not to the degree you wanted, but they plan on putting in later the ability to distribute one extra point per level into a stat for that class.
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08-16-2011, 03:59 AMMattyWS
You can still put points where you want, just on each class separately.
I prefer this way anyway, I mean what happens when you hit level 50 and not all your classes are leveled? Physical level stops there and you cannot choose anymore points. I will admit though One thing I missed in FFXI was skilling up at the same time as levelling up.
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08-16-2011, 04:09 AMVisch"Customization" is another word for BAD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuauh
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08-16-2011, 04:10 AMKailea_Nagisathey are removing physical levels, and by doing that, the point allotment from said levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuauh
Now when you level, points will be distributed automatically, and in 1.20 they will add the gain of bonus points to go with the automatically added points. -
08-16-2011, 04:16 AMJaboPoint Allotment will still be in the game (post 1.20) So you can customize your character like you do now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuauh
The only difference would be that you dont have to wait for houers to switch from melee to mage setup and that stat balance is same at rank 1 and rank 50. -
08-16-2011, 04:18 AMSeirra_Lanzce
i'm not mad at them abolisihing it lol but im so sad they change the terminology of it.. can't the stay as Skill Point/Rank? :<
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08-16-2011, 04:18 AMBruceyBruceyBangBang
What you don't know is, aside from HP and MP gained from VIT and MND, attribute modifiers are completely worthless.
They are changing the algorithms and having them automatically distribute. This means you will be able to switch between magic and war classes and not have to worry about allotment. You'll even see improvements in the way your Hand and Land classes function through this change since proper allotments affect craft quality as well. This is personally... my most anticipated character development change in 1.19.
I love THM and I love ARC. I highly dislike the 3 hour interval wait between reallotment to get my base attributes down before they start to soft cap or give diminishing results (as they do a lot earlier than you think they do). With this new change, not only will stats actually matter, you will be able to be proficient for the most part (hoping gear will come more into play to separate men from the boys) as any class you have ranked. No worry of not being as great because you have no points in STR and DEX being that your main is a CON. Refreshing and greatly welcomed addition to the game. -
08-16-2011, 04:43 AMNuru
All in all, its a better system and less of a hassle to switch from melee to mage to crafter to gatherer. Simple as that.
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08-16-2011, 04:52 AMVerecund
Zomg This Is New News Just Kidding It's Not Because It's Been Known For Months.
The only thing Physical Level actually accomplished was being a compliment to Fatigue. -
08-16-2011, 05:01 AMMalakhim
I think that things won't be too bad as long as they give us enough leeway to where the points we get to allocate actually DO mean something. I.E. If I want to tank in a light party as a PUG, I'd like to know that allocating more points to VIT will have some kind of effect, or if I want to enfeeble, PIE will do what I want it to do(aside from being delicious and better than cake).
I like the idea that removing physical level will allow stats to actually matter, but I also feel that point allocation is one of the things that differentiate FFXIV from FFXI, and I think it would hurt the game if they eliminated that aspect. -
08-16-2011, 05:06 AMKailea_Nagisafromthe last time they talked about it, they said something along the lines of, "you will be given less points, but each point will have a greater impact"Quote:
Originally Posted by Malakhim
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08-16-2011, 05:09 AMPicoman"You cannot be serious!?" - John McEnroeQuote:
Originally Posted by Cuauh
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08-16-2011, 05:26 AMBONKERS
you know, people who complain about having to re-allocate points for stats for different classes could alleviate that problem by you know, not being an idiot and allocating your points in a balanced way in the first place.
How are they going to deal with the fact that most people already have a TON of allocated points other than having things allocate automatically during the time difference from .19 to .20?
I mean im pretty sure what sets people apart from one another with current Physical level is how smartly one decides to allocate and balance their stats. That's a player issue, not a game issue. It's not the game's fault if one player is better than another player with the same Rank/Level because they spread out their stats better. -
08-16-2011, 05:29 AMNuruWell honestly, stats really don't matter too much, all they really help with the most are HQing items. Also, re-assignment of attribute points is there for a reason. People want to excel at one-three things rather than be balanced at everything and be under-average at anything they do. That's the whole point.Quote:
Originally Posted by BONKERS
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08-16-2011, 05:32 AMScapewait.. wait, so we are idiots because we don't give our mages a good balance of STR and DEX? Or melee a good balance of INT and PIE? Give me a break.Quote:
you know, people who complain about having to re-allocate points for stats for different classes could alleviate that problem by you know, not being an idiot and allocating your points in a balanced way in the first place.
No, its a game issue and its a pretty big one. I get the feeling the whole reason for all of this is way over your headQuote:
I mean im pretty sure what sets people apart from one another with current Physical level is how smartly one decides to allocate and balance their stats. That's a player issue, not a game issue. It's not the game's fault if one player is better than another player with the same Rank/Level because they spread out their stats better.
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Main Class: MRD Rank 13
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08-16-2011, 05:35 AMKitCat^^^^^^^^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodLotus
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08-16-2011, 05:50 AMGriss
hmm, My thm at 31 hits harder with scourge with my 12 int then another character with "mage stats" at the same rank why? Because my weapon is better. Yea stats mean a whole hell of a lot right now.
But we will see how things go after they revamp the calculations so stats mean something. with the auto placement until .20 those "Worthless" stat swap traits are probably going to be getting a lot more useful. -
08-16-2011, 06:27 AMScapeYep. I been trying to get my THM to 36 so I can get the top tier STR one >.< We may also see an increase in the price of some gear if stats actually start to work properly. Accessories especially I think.Quote:
those "Worthless" stat swap traits are probably going to be getting a lot more useful.
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08-16-2011, 06:34 AMDefmetal
I don't know why but I still like the idea behind physical levels.
It's just they weren't implemented well. I think it would have worked better if your HP, MP, Defense, and Attack came from Physical Levels, as well as the base stats, and your Rank gave you Bonus Stats to allocate and skills.
That way physical levels would be very useful in the overall game, as in you're leveling up, and then you're class ranks determine skills and bonus points.
(right now physical levels only give stats, but if they had also given HP MP Def and Attack instead of your class they would have had the correct value I think they intended when they made this game) -
08-16-2011, 06:46 AMRaze
I came into this thread thinking that there might be something interesting in it. I suppose even I can be wrong. Please bury this thread.
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08-16-2011, 07:04 AMvax
Iloledbad..
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08-16-2011, 01:28 PMNeptuneI agree man. There was a more creative solution than hitting the DELETE key.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuauh
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08-16-2011, 03:54 PMNuru
If it means anything, stats like INT and STR would be better off effecting Magic Potency and Attack, which is what i thought they would do in the first place. Other MMORPGs tend to do it that way, but right now, stats seem to have no effect on anything except for MND and VIT.
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08-16-2011, 04:09 PMCuauhCustomizeI already read all your comments.
Tnx all, even trolls (yes, even you).
And what can I understand now (tnx to you) is that SE will remove this for a time, until patch 1.20 when they will release again the "Point Allotment's system".
What I can understand, is that they will separate mages from DPS, and fieldcraft from traderscraft to asign diferent points in each one.
To all who say "who cares?" or something similar...
I'm Pugilist, I like DPS, my idea for build my job is make it in base of str++, dex+ and vit, and mnd- I'm not care about Int or Pie, And i'm sure that a mage will be not cared about DPS stats, but I'm sure that will be people who like train mage DPS or DPS Mage. This is what make a fun game, the posibility to chose and desing a character in the way you want. Some will like have Mage 100% and that is good, but I don't want anybody say me that MND, INT and PIE is the only needed for them. I'll decide what is better for me, my character and my game play.
Again, tnx, I'll check this often.
Good Luck.