DirectX 11 footage

Sorry for the low quality couldn't find a better quality one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMF91IgrpJg it looks like we are getting quite a few new graphical features its hard to tell the new lighting because of the quality of the video.

Dat Lilty.

Did they say what the release time frame would be? I could swear I heard it would be around 3.0 but wanted to confirm.

The directx11 bucket XD hahaha, dying about that.

I love the shine on the wood floors and the water is very pretty. No game-changing resolutions like they were up front about it, but it'll be something nice to look forward to when the time comes.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/8aade565...bp2o1_1280.png

Looks amazing! I'm really looking forward to this graphical update. *considering a new 780ti*

I'm just wanting more usage of my gpu and less of my cpu. It would help out us that use multi-monitors and multi-tasking.

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Originally Posted by Parodine

The directx11 bucket XD hahaha, dying about that.

I love the shine on the wood floors and the water is very pretty. No game-changing resolutions like they were up front about it, but it'll be something nice to look forward to when the time comes.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/8aade565...bp2o1_1280.png

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I would wear the dx11 helm.

Hard to tell from pixelated video but sadly looks like we wont be getting any kind of texture resolution bump.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Hard to tell from pixelated video but sadly looks like we wont be getting any kind of texture resolution bump.

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Pretty sure they have said all along they would not be increasing texture resolutions for dx11. Unfortunately. But if thats what anyone was expecting SE has said that was never the plan.

Any word if the DX11 is going to address the unusual memory leak on AMDs. Just about anyone with any version of a AMD GFX card inevitably experiences a huge lag spikes, and usually once its over textures and stuff are missing. Even whole body parts are gone. This was way more evident when hunts were big news to people, lots of people experienced issues then. But not too much anymore, sense hunts aren't popular anymore. It still happens just not as often.

Isn't directx an Nvidia only thing?

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Isn't directx an Nvidia only thing?

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DirectX is supported by both NVIDIA and AMD. It is a Microsoft graphical engine.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Hard to tell from pixelated video but sadly looks like we wont be getting any kind of texture resolution bump.

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Not really that big of a deal since we're getting tesselation.

All of the technobabble pertaining to graphics hardware/software goes over my head. All I know is that the DX11 client is sure gonna be pretty.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Hard to tell from pixelated video but sadly looks like we wont be getting any kind of texture resolution bump.

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Console limitations

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Originally Posted by Drako

Any word if the DX11 is going to address the unusual memory leak on AMDs. Just about anyone with any version of a AMD GFX card inevitably experiences a huge lag spikes, and usually once its over textures and stuff are missing. Even whole body parts are gone. This was way more evident when hunts were big news to people, lots of people experienced issues then. But not too much anymore, sense hunts aren't popular anymore. It still happens just not as often.

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DX11 moves resource management from the driver to the API, so it should be magically fixed.

Personally I'm a tad worried about the DX11 client's reliance on nVidia's Gameworks and how it will affect AMD cards.

Overall visually they are some nice improvements. Nothing groundbreaking though - as I was expecting when I heard there would be new lighting.[1] But that said, the game currently already looks pretty good.

A little disappointed too there aren't better AA options. FXAA ... you will get used to it but SMAA T2x (like they use in Infamous: Second Son) would be nice.

[1] Was kind of expecting more accurate physically based lighting.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

DirectX is supported by both NVIDIA and AMD. It is a Microsoft graphical engine.

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Actually DirectX is a graphics Application Program Interface (API).

Basically it's a standardized method of talking to different GPUs, so games can be written once and run on any DX compliant GPU - in theory.

Nothing is "free" of course, there are downsides to abstractions such as this, mainly that it saps performance. This is why consoles despite having weaker hardware can look as good they do, as they use a much lower level API designed specifically just for their hardware.

Aww to no textures, I swear once they said they were working on decompressing and examining some textures and while it was an arduous process they were at it and then a month later they were like 'nope'.

Other changes are nice though, the little things can add up (zoomed out quick shots may be hard but large screen slow passing eyes can mean a lot). Improvement is an improvement, so yay :D.

It will be fun to revisit some locations after this just to see the changes (beaches, marble Ul'Dah maybe, Limsa stone walls?).

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Hard to tell from pixelated video but sadly looks like we wont be getting any kind of texture resolution bump.

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Yes. But it is an improvement I am happy to see regardless.

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Originally Posted by Parodine

No game-changing resolutions like they were up front about it, but it'll be something nice to look forward to when the time comes.

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Actually Yoshi himself stated in a live letter that DX11 wouldn't be that much of a noticeable difference from DX9, that main difference would be with the water.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

DirectX is supported by both NVIDIA and AMD. It is a Microsoft graphical engine.

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It's not an engine, you're confusing terminology.

DirectX is an API, essentially like a library that you can reference from or pull bits and pieces from.

It essentially houses various libraries of things you can pull from for; Sounds/Graphics/General Processing

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Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter

Pretty sure they have said all along they would not be increasing texture resolutions for dx11. Unfortunately. But if thats what anyone was expecting SE has said that was never the plan.

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They never said it would go hand-in-hand, but that they were simply looking into whether it was feasible or not.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

Is DX11 gonna make the armor like back when the game first came out?

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The armour hasn't changed much.

Texture were compressed, metallic surfaces don't use the same shader (often) anymore.

The actual form of the gear is exactly the same.

The lighting system used in ARR isn't as "Aggressive/Strong", that's why you don't get quite as much detail as you did in 1.0, the normal/bump mapping doesn't' come out quite as strongly as it did before.
This is also partially due to the textures being compressed more-so than before in some areas.

1.0's lighting system in some ways was arguable more realistic, it was also inherently flawed, buggy and in most places looked down-right terrible.
However for ARR to replicate that using the current system would be incredibly intensive on most computers.

http://i.imgur.com/vicj3jH.jpg

Is DX11 gonna make the armor like back when the game first came out?

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Originally Posted by Gralna

Actually Yoshi himself stated in a live letter that DX11 wouldn't be that much of a noticeable difference from DX9, that main difference would be with the water.

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I hear you, but I also saw noticable differences in wood paneling and the stone walkways in Ul'Dah from the video. I figured it won't be like 'omg!' quality, but it'll be a nice 'oh hey, pretty' when its here.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

Actually Yoshi himself stated in a live letter that DX11 wouldn't be that much of a noticeable difference from DX9, that main difference would be with the water.

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There quite a few differences besides water...tessellation, better lighting ect. just pay attention to the video closer its hard to notice some because of the quality of the video. Speaking of the video has anyone come across a higher quality one?

I'm more concerned about how much of a performance boost I'll get from this.

I want a performance boost. It irritates me that I have a GPU that crushes this game and it the title still isn't optimized for my card.

We *should* see a boost. If not, they've done something different than other companies in the past...

I'm not even top tier gpu, but my 960 cuda cores beg for usage.

I really do hope in the future they decide to release the high resolution textures for those of us who can make use of them. I get the compression for memory limitatons on consols and older systems but come on.

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Originally Posted by Katsaria

I want a performance boost. It irritates me that I have a GPU that crushes this game and it the title still isn't optimized for my card.

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I know that feeling. I can run MGS Ground Zeroes at 4k with all at max and get about 40-45 fps yet here I'm stuck at 1440p for this and it struggles to get into the 80's a lot of times.

I'm concerned about the client using Nvidia GameWorks. This has crippled AMD videocard users in the past with other games.

Honestly, this game needs better textures badly. Many textures are pathetic and atrocious. If this game could be modded like games on Nexus, then FFXIV could become a great looking game. Console needs to stop holding back the PC players. They need to let PC upgrade graphics as PCs allow.

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Originally Posted by Postcards

I'm concerned about the client using Nvidia GameWorks.

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Originally Posted by Bishop81

Personally I'm a tad worried about the DX11 client's reliance on nVidia's Gameworks and how it will affect AMD cards.

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Me too. Big names in the gaming industry have spoken out against Gameworks (John Kloetzli - Firaxis, Bart Wronski & Michal Drobot - Ubisoft Montreal, Timothy Lottes *an ex-nVidia employee*- Epic, Johan Andersson - DICE) and there is flat out proof that the platform favours Nvidia cards because AMD are unable to access the source.

Because of how minimal these changes look, I think it won't be much of a problem. However I would be a lot more comfortable with them choosing an open platform to allow myself and the other 40% of the GPU market to get the most out of their systems in this game for the foreseeable future.

I'm looking forward to it!

Silly question, but will the PS4 get any enhancements? Or is it just for PC?

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Originally Posted by Lucem

Me too. Big names in the gaming industry have spoken out against Gameworks (John Kloetzli - Firaxis, Bart Wronski & Michal Drobot - Ubisoft Montreal, Timothy Lottes *an ex-nVidia employee*- Epic, Johan Andersson - DICE) and there is flat out proof that the platform favours Nvidia cards because AMD are unable to access the source.

Because of how minimal these changes look, I think it won't be much of a problem. However I would be a lot more comfortable with them choosing an open platform to allow myself and the other 40% of the GPU market to get the most out of their systems in this game for the foreseeable future.

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This is a lie. AMD has full access to game code. They are literally making up excuses.

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Nvidia’s Cebenoyan responded directly to this during our conversation: “I’ve heard that before from AMD and it’s a little mysterious to me. We don’t and we never have restricted anyone from getting access as part of our agreements. Not with Watch Dogs and not with any other titles. Our agreements focus on interesting things we’re going to do together to improve the experience for all PC gamers and of course for Nvidia customers. We don’t have anything in there restricting anyone from accessing source code or binaries. Developers are free to give builds out to whoever they want. It’s their product.”

Seeking some clarification, I asked if perhaps AMD’s concern was that they’re not allowed to see the game’s source code. Cebenoyan says that a game’s source code isn’t necessary to perform driver optimization. “Thousands of games get released, but we don’t need to look at that source code,” he says. “Most developers don’t give you the source code. You don’t need source code of the game itself to do optimization for those games. AMD’s been saying for awhile that without access to the source code it’s impossible to optimize. That’s crazy.”

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It's amazing how often this lie keeps getting repeated over and over again, despite being debunked MONTHS ago. Shows you how little critical thought people put into these statements.

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Originally Posted by Xienzato

Silly question, but will the PS4 get any enhancements? Or is it just for PC?

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PS4 has DX11 compatible hardware, but I'm pretty sure it's running on OpenGL since directx is a windows API.
It's a possibility you guys will be seeing some of the same features as the DX11 client, since OpenGL can do things in a diffrent way but similar.

I want to know when the game is going to look like this.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...t.png~original

Half past never. That UI looks pretty awful.

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Originally Posted by Galliano

I want to know when the game is going to look like this.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...t.png~original

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that is a concept UI, added on top of a still image of 2.0 while still in testing phase. Closest chance you ever have to getting a UI similar to that, is if they ever allow player made UI's to be added to game.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

that is a concept UI, added on top of a still image of 2.0 while still in testing phase. Closest chance you ever have to getting a UI similar to that, is if they ever allow player made UI's to be added to game.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Half past never. That UI looks pretty awful.

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I didn't mean the UI, I meant the shading and lighting.