A while back I made a thread about "expanding" Classes, but everyone was defensive about their raid spot.
Since no one wants Classes raid-viable, I suggest we just outright bar them from raids - i.e. You can't even zone into a raid as a Class.
In doing so, the developers can go wild on Class capabilities - since "balance" is no longer a concern; they no longer have to keep them homogeneous and boring so players can keep their raid spot in dog-eat-dog FCs.
One thing I would like to see are trainable Carbuncles.
With Chocobo Coloring they made up a system in which you can alter the chocobo's color by what you feed it. In essence it's a simplistic color "training system".
I would like the Carbuncles to be trainable such that you can alter their autonomous behavior in combat (or even out of combat).
The ideal would be some kind of rule based system with an inference engine - think Prolog. Where you "training up" certain rules that you want and the Carbuncle will obey those rules during combat, ergo, it's combat behavior is driven by those rules.
This isn't SE's first attempt at "programmable" characters. FFXII and FFXIII have programmable party members. I'm sure they can create improved versions of those.
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12-13-2014, 07:34 AMBishop81Trainable Carbuncles
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12-13-2014, 07:46 AMcookiecutter
By some of their recent actions it seems like SE is trying to steer away from the class system. For example, the ninja not providing cross class skills, classes not being initially raid viable, and, the dark knight lacking a strict class. I think its more likely if SE, just created another carbuncle (diamond, ruby, etc.) that was strictly usable by the summoner class.
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12-13-2014, 07:49 AMbideogames
also add wind-up carbuncles. thanks
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12-13-2014, 07:52 AMJacost
The classes are Tanaka's leftovers, which SE would rather like to be off the table but are too polite to mention to the waiters, who are busy with other things.
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12-13-2014, 08:29 AMBishop81That said, the Classes do have nice lore. Their quests are well written, even the ROG ones. It's also nice that you can visit your Classes' HQ - helps ground you in the game world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacost
Currently Job design has it's limitations, namely SE is restrict in what they can add or do with them due to balance - especially so if they are following WoW's "bring the player not the class" modus op. Everyone ends up fairly homogeneous or some raiders will QQ their eyes out because they did 1% less DPS than their peeps and got benched. No one has "special skills" anymore.
Also, "programmable"/trainable pets are something I would like to see done in an MMO - instead of just cloning WoW's just-a-mobile-DoT-that-occasional-drops-dead Warlock pets again and again in every damn MMO. -
12-13-2014, 08:37 AMEdelineFFVIII - You could train your G.F. to gain abilites, plus training them in battle to gain afinity to summon faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop81
FFX - You could practically train and change the whole sphere tablet to modify your stats as you please.
FFX-2 - Training every dressphere to unlock new abilities and training to complete each ability in battle. -
12-13-2014, 08:48 AMSapphicIt was nothing about "losing raid spots" It was that your idea was bad as it would totally destroy any need for jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop81
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12-13-2014, 09:10 AMIlitsaPerfect Dodge, Goad, Death Blossom, can all be cross-classed, technically.Quote:
Originally Posted by cookiecutter
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12-13-2014, 09:12 AMcookiecutter
Cross classed to jobs. Sorry I wasn't specific.
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12-13-2014, 09:18 AMlololinkThat's because they didn't want to remake all the cross abilities for all the classes to include rogue, it will happen in 3.0 imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by cookiecutter
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12-13-2014, 09:47 AMBishop81I mean "training" automated characters. FFX all the characters are under your full control at all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edeline
Whatever man. Who died and made you curator of the forums. Talk about ego. You get over yourself champ. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Sapphic
Seriously, if you are just here to insult me, then you might as well save SE some bandwidth and not post at all since your "content per bit" rate is zero.
More specifically, they didn't want to upset the current class balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by lololink
The cross-class system is fraught with "gotchas" as they interlink all the Jobs.