[suggestion] shield action=shield spikes [dev1123]

I'll make this short, I want an action that buffs my shield, something like shock spikes for my shield so that when I block the mobs take damage. glads can barley do any damage and this would help allot. that is all.

Also I would still like to have shock spikes be cast on me and not have one buff wipe the other out, that would be pointless.

Also, if you could change aegis boon to have a drain ability instead of just generating hp that would suffice i think.

Can't you just cast Shock Spikes on yourself?

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Originally Posted by Frein

Can't you just cast Shock Spikes on yourself?

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read the full thing its not that long.

let me elaborate as im guessing you did read the whole thing and may not understand it.

I wrote, "something like shock spikes" meaning not shock spikes
I wrote, "Also I would still like to have shock spikes be cast on me and not have one buff wipe the other out, that would be pointless."

So you want double shock spikes? Because Shock Spikes as they are do exactly what you want to do: Deal damage from blocks.

ok since you obviously cant comprehend when i said something like shock spikes let me do it like this.

an action called water spikes and last 30 seconds with a 60 second timer that deals water damage when you shield is stuck by an opponent. Holy crap, i cant believe I had to spell it out for you.

Probably not going to happen. I could see SE changing aegis boon to a drain, but then it wouldn't work on some mobs such as the undead. Also SE has shown that they are unwilling to have two spikes going at one time, as stygian spikes and shock spikes cancel each other out. This is despite the fact that sygian spikes only absorbs mp and shock spikes damages hp. The only exception is punishing barbs, which is not a "spike" and has been drastically nerfed since the start of the game.

i doesnt have to be "spikes", i just havnt had a creative enough name to com up with. The most important thing is an abilty to cause damage with you shield over a period of time. The drain thing i mentioned seems to make the most sense and would be easist to implement.

the point is, is that tanks main objective is to take hits making it so they cant do damage so i would just like them to implement defensive skills that can do damage.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

the point is, is that tanks main objective is to take hits making it so they cant do damage so i would just like them to implement defensive skills that can do damage.

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Like Shock Spikes?

(Sorry. Couldn't resist)

what if the mob has water resistance... lol i get you it would help a lot to deal the enmity issue right now, but would be better if it deals a great amount of enmity every hit the mob takes from ur shield.

Oh! The OP wants Shock Spikes!
Who else wants Shock Spikes?
I want Shock Spikes!

Sock Spikes for everyone!

Well they will make a materia for that :).. Materia for shield with after effects.. like shock spike...drain ...

I assume what you are after is something like Reprisal from ffxi paladin class. It is quite possible it will come, reflect back a set amount of damage that has been absorbed from the shield.

omg finally people with common sense, im not one of those people who does all the devs work for them and write a ten page long script on an idea. It was a simple notion and requires some imagination.

You kinda already have it in the form of Phalanx: Extra damage for measly cost of 250 TP every-time you block. If you want to GLA to have more DPS/DD/whatever, then you need to remember they need to somehow balance the game. A tank shouldn't have too much damage.

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

I assume what you are after is something like Reprisal from ffxi paladin class. It is quite possible it will come, reflect back a set amount of damage that has been absorbed from the shield.

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exactly, thank you

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

You kinda already have it in the form of Phalanx: Extra damage for measly cost of 250 TP every-time you block. If you want to GLA to have more DPS/DD/whatever, then you need to remember they need to somehow balance the game. A tank shouldn't have too much damage.

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phalanx is a counter attack, not quite the same, at all, lol

like eurantien pointed out, it exist in ffxi as an ability for paladin class so there is no reason why it can work in 14.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

phalanx is a counter attack, not quite the same, at all, lol

like eurantien pointed out, it exist in ffxi as an ability for paladin class so there is no reason why it can work in 14.

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Because we don't have Paladin yet? Paladin will come out after patch 1.20.

Last time i checked Reprisal didnt stack with spike spells, still it was a nice buff.

ya it didnt stack with spike spells, but that was the spell he was after. I also wouldn't imagine that it would stack with spikes in xiv, but it would do more damage than spikes dependent on how hard the mob was hitting.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

Because we don't have Paladin yet? Paladin will come out after patch 1.20.

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this does not have to be a copy of ff11, glad could have it, and it doesn't have to work the same either. I don't know why people argue such dumb stuff. I hope they dont just copy all the paladin abilities and paste them in 14.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

this does not have to be a copy of ff11, glad could have it, and it doesn't have to work the same either. I don't know why people argue such dumb stuff. I hope they dont just copy all the paladin abilities and paste them in 14.

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Because it has to deal with the game balance. Paladin was an advanced class in FFXI, Gladiator in FFXIV is not. Tank =/= DD, you already have many way to contribute damage in the fight. If you are asking for an edge over the other classes, people will do the same for their own classes, and it will end up in a mess when they try to balance things out.

For instance I also want my LNC to have a LNC-only Wyvern pet that do extra damage and heal me. On top of my already high DPS and HP absorb.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

Because it has to deal with the game balance. Paladin was an advanced class in FFXI, Gladiator in FFXIV is not. Tank =/= DD, you already have many way to contribute damage in the fight. If you are asking for an edge over the other classes, people will do the same for their own classes, and it will end up in a mess when they try to balance things out.

For instance I also want my LNC to have a LNC-only Wyvern pet that do extra damage and heal me. On top of my already high DPS and HP absorb.

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I don't think having 1 defensive DD ability would give glad an edge and make everyone jump off the arch bandwagon. It's an ability that plays into the style of battle that glads have. It would be up to the developers to balance it so it doesn't do to much damage to through the game out of whack.

So I also want a Pet Wyvern because I don't think having 1 pet summon would give LNC and edge an make everyone jump off the arch bandwagon... Not.

They are struggling to even balance out the current abilities system. New skills will come with new jobs, after they balance the current ones out. No, new jobs won't come even at 1.20, they already mentioned it will be after 1.20.

Let's face it, you want buff for your class, everyone else does as well. Heck, MRD and PUG has been literally crying out just to have adjustment for their CURRENT abilities.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

So I also want a Pet Wyvern because I don't think having 1 pet summon would give LNC and edge an make everyone jump off the arch bandwagon... Not.

They are struggling to even balance out the current abilities system. New skills will come with new jobs, after they balance the current ones out. No, new jobs won't come even at 1.20, they already mentioned it will be after 1.20.

Let's face it, you want buff for your class, everyone else does as well. Heck, MRD and PUG has been literally crying out just to have adjustment for their CURRENT abilities.

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then i want a pet wolf also.

Also this thread was not about pet Wyvern's, if you want one make a thread about it.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

then i want a pet wolf also.

Also this thread was not about pet Wyvern's, if you want one make a thread about it.

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So what...People in hell want ice water.....

You sir are an idiot. I am okay with you asking for and wanting, whatever you want. What makes you a true idiot, is that in your first 3 post you extremely VAGUELY describe something, then go on to bash everyone who did not understand it in detail.

Your the type of ass that tells his waiter he wants a bottle of water, then screams at him when he brings you avian water, claiming he is a moron for not understanding that you wanted a bottle of aquafina.