[Suggestion] Cash Shop Suggestion Topic

First and Foremost.

If you are here to discuss what shouldn't be in the cash shop or rant and rave about stuff that is currently in the cash shop, there are other topics to discuss that in. I won't bother linking them as there are over 20 of them now. The cash shop is here, it's most likely not going away. Instead of making another argument topic on the subject that has been covered a dozen times over, let's aim for something different



With that out of the way, let's begin shall we?

There has been a lot of talk in the last day or so about things being 'unacceptable' in the cash shop. So instead, lets make this a positive topic shall we?

Let's not discuss what is in the shop, or what will possibly be (Eternal Bonding). But rather, let's discuss options and potential services that would benefit the player base in the cash shop.

Remember however, "No Pay To Win" is the key here. So these would be vanity, cosmetic, glamours etc.

One example I can start with is this:

Since we know that they won't do crossovers with games that are finished fully and the character stories are done, I doubt we would have anything to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Chrono Trigger.

What if the Cash Shop offered a Chrono Trigger Anniversary pack with 4 hairstyles (2 male 2 female) a minion that changed between a couple of the Chrono Trigger characters and possibly an outfit based on gender.

Just an idea, most likely not that well thought out but it's a start.

In all Truth i "Understand" why Yoshi p added a "Cash shop" "option" But again it really isnt necessary with a sub game. They make more then enough money from subs themselves it jsut feels like it could be a possible cash grab just like with WoW.


Personal Feelings aside.


I feel like The whole "mount" and "minion" ideas are decent but we were promised when 2.0 was in beta and prerelease "Everything will be in the game" Straight from Yoshi p with one of his earlier live letters.

As long as minions and mounts are in cash shop im ok with this. If i see things like triple triad decks and what not in the cash shop i know alot of the populace will freak out.

The wedding thing is ok tho we dont have full info on it just yet.


Would love to see some Hairstyles and clothing options from FFXV would be cool i think.
I like alot of the hairstyles now but i definitely think alot more should be added. i run into me all the time on my server due to lack of full customization.

I'd love to see some of the other FF13 character's hairstyles and clothes being added, but that's just me. xD

Cash shop is good for the game, Hope it stays as long as it isn't pay to win. Which they did say it wouldn't be.

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

I'd love to see some of the other FF13 character's hairstyles and clothes being added, but that's just me. xD

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Serah's XIII-2 outfit, make it happen SE!

Release all micro-transaction vanity items as bonus in-game items alongside merchandise, players appears to not have an issue when unique and exclusive vanity items and minions that are included as bonuses to merchandise so it might be a win-win for SE where they could sell more items at a higher profit margin and not have to deal with all these negative reactions.

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

[Suggestion] Cash Shop Suggestion Topic

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Suggestception.

What they should do is remove everything currently in the cash shop, and add completely different things.

The scion minions never should have been added, they have 2 free in game, and 3 to buy, it makes no sense why some are free and some are not, makes it feel like they were planning to put those in game then decided to make them cost.

The Sleipnir mount is similar, since each extreme primal drops a horse mount, when they add Odin extreme, Sleipnir would have been perfect.
With the Halloween gear, they should not have included gear previously sold in game in the cash shop.

No event that is a feature people are looking forward to should be divided into a free version, and a version that costs that is better.

What they should have added is gear, hairstyles, minions, and weapons from characters of other final fantasies.
I would be ok with that, since they are not things that really fit in with the game world, or lore.

Yea id love to see other SE game mounts or outfits how bout a keyblade from KH oooooooo

I'd put housing plots on the cash shop. At least people would stop buying gil for them.

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Originally Posted by RaquelleAvarosa

Release all micro-transaction vanity items as bonus in-game items alongside merchandise, players appears to not have an issue when unique and exclusive vanity items and minions that are included as bonuses to merchandise so it might be a win-win for SE where they could sell more items at a higher profit margin and not have to deal with all these negative reactions.

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That's something that confuses me. Why are so many people anti-cash shop, yet they don't bat an eyelash at a $50 Blu-Ray audio soundtrack that grants a minion?

I mean, if that's the direction SE decided to go if their cash shop did not live up to expectations, that's all fine and dandy. There just seems to be a double-standard there.

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As for the topic, I would like to see all of the old, no longer obtainable cross-promotional event gear for sale on the cash shop.

-The XIIIth Shard: Unlocks the Snow/Lightning hairstyles from the Aesthetician and the Bohemian/Guardian Corps set for purchase from the Calamity Salvager.
-Wind-up Shantotto: Sends the Wind-Up Shantotto minion via mail.
-The Slimy Brick Special: Sends the Wind-Up Brickman minion and King Slime hat via mail.

Other things I would like to see once 2.5 rolls around: Airship Schematics from previous Final Fantasy installments. Just the blueprints that have to be crafted, not the mats to craft them with.

-Airship Schematic: Invincible Mk. III
-Airship Schematic: Red Wing Mk. IV
-Airship Schematic: Blackjack Mk. VI
-Airship Schematic: Highwind Mk. VII
-Airship Schematic: Ragnarok Mk. VIII
-Airship Schematic: Prima Vista Mk. IX
-Airship Schematic: Red Rose Mk. IX
-Airship Schematic: Fahrenheit Mk. X
-Airship Schematic: Celsius Mk. X-2

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

I'd love to see some of the other FF13 character's hairstyles and clothes being added, but that's just me. xD

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Serah's XIII-2 outfit, make it happen SE!

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The thing is, I hope they don't just put them in the cash shop. Why not make an event first like "lightning returns". Make them obtainable from the event. Then, for those that missed the event, add the items to the cash shop after.

I don't mind the cash shop but I hope that it won't reduce the number of fun/random events in the future. Imagine if they had put the shantotto minion or the lightning event items in the cash shop without there being an event first.

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Originally Posted by IzumiYuki

The thing is, I hope they don't just put them in the cash shop. Why not make an event first like "lightning returns". Make them obtainable from the event. Then, for those that missed the event, add the items to the cash shop after.

I don't mind the cash shop but I hope that it won't reduce the number of fun/random events in the future. Imagine if they had put the shantotto minion or the lightning event items in the cash shop without there being an event first.

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Thank you. Just... thank you.

Seems most people can't help giving their opinion in a thread that starts off with asking not to give an opinion on cash shop.

Anyway, I'd like to see more real versus virtual items. I want a Titan plush. Maybe more t-shirts and hoodies.

Can I buy the abillity to get all of this content in the game on a monthly subscription basis?

Oh wait I allready do? Well damn...

To be honest the cash shop would be great if they used it for physical goods only (with no digital items attatched.) I'd pay for a 3d model to be made of my character with whatever equipment he had on. Now that's how you make a killing from the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

...snip... I'd pay for a 3d model to be made of my character with whatever equipment he had on. Now that's how you make a killing from the cash shop.

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As awesome of an idea as that is and yes I would probably buy one, you usually don't make a killing off of a niche item like that. I think they sell what they sell because it's cheap profit. The cash shop feels like an afterthought, which it should be.

I guess I would like to see the cash shop take the direction indicated in this post:

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Originally Posted by IzumiYuki

The thing is, I hope they don't just put them in the cash shop. Why not make an event first like "lightning returns". Make them obtainable from the event. Then, for those that missed the event, add the items to the cash shop after.

I don't mind the cash shop but I hope that it won't reduce the number of fun/random events in the future. Imagine if they had put the shantotto minion or the lightning event items in the cash shop without there being an event first.

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Premium sub, all items available within the game. Does it count on topic if it is a suggestion to have the cash shop tell the cash shop to get rekt'd? :P

Entirely unnecessary and easily forged but it could at least be somewhat pleasing to know what % SE was reinvesting and where (cash shop investing back into the cash shop, anti-fabulous), sort of a kick starter but instead a marathon keeper?

For new veteran bonuses allow tokens that have value in the cash shop?

I'm less annoyed with timed exclusive content that appeared in game first then in the shop, i'd hope to see few and far between exclusive items in the shop itself. So get on that Chrono trigger event in game, then sell it on the cash shop later. Kthx :P

Not that I want to see the cash shop flourish, just maybe some lesser evils (annoyances, w.e, 'opinions yo').

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Originally Posted by Jynx

To be honest the cash shop would be great if they used it for physical goods only (with no digital items attatched.) I'd pay for a 3d model to be made of my character with whatever equipment he had on. Now that's how you make a killing from the cash shop.

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That would be pretty neat~

Depending on the quality you could have some affordable miniatures and then say hand painted from screen shot pretty and hefty penny*. I wonder why other MMOs haven't done this, and if they have why did they fail (or I never heard of it) - I assume 3d printing technology has to be somewhat of a source of relevance here. *Decent sized high quality models that I know of are pretty expensive.

Edit: Can't help but answer my own question -> here is at least one example: http://www.figureprints.com/wow/Gallery.aspx#bust001

I wouldn't mind it if they just made random stuff that wasn't related to any specific feature. Morbol mount, Chibi Primal Minions, maybe even some armor based on Amano designs. What I was thinking though is maybe SE should just drop the veterans rewards and just give token insteads. That way they can add what ever mount, minions, and gear they want but all players get a equal chance to get said gear.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

To be honest the cash shop would be great if they used it for physical goods only (with no digital items attatched.) I'd pay for a 3d model to be made of my character with whatever equipment he had on. Now that's how you make a killing from the cash shop.

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This would be killer. We know SE already has the ability to do this and people would pay big for quality merchandise.

I made a thread suggesting adding in Music packs via Cash Shop.

So folks can change the Battle & Mounted BGMs, add music to Fishing & Crafting all from previous FF titles.
using remixed & remastered.

I would love to have cash shop glamour sets. Like weapons, armors, & etc.
(Noel's sword, Squall's Gunblade, Cain's Lance)

Maybe have armorsets from previous FFs in it.
We have FFI and FFIII sets but they are locked via raid content. So folks don't raid.

Hairstyles, and etc would be cool.
(Cloud's Hair, Caius Ballad's Hair, Vincent's hair (since headbands count as hair it seems...)

I would not be against more dyes either. But they need to be non-consumable.
Chocobo armors would be good too.

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Originally Posted by IzumiYuki

The thing is, I hope they don't just put them in the cash shop. Why not make an event first like "lightning returns". Make them obtainable from the event. Then, for those that missed the event, add the items to the cash shop after.

I don't mind the cash shop but I hope that it won't reduce the number of fun/random events in the future. Imagine if they had put the shantotto minion or the lightning event items in the cash shop without there being an event first.

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So many folks seemed to resent those events that I doubt this would be the case.
Its more cost effective to just roll out to a Cash Shop than to have to develop a event, brainstorm a storyline so it fits with Lore.
The backlash off the FFXIII was terrible. The vocal minority ruined events like that for future generations.

I would love more events but I do not see it happening. =/

The following pretty much nails it,

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The most important concept in this paper is that it's not just how you sell your product, but what part of your product you sell. A great part of the attraction of virtual worlds is that participants see them as a Grand Meritocracy, as opposed to the real world, which can often seem arbitrary and unfair. As Jane McGonigal points out, there is no unemployment in virtual space. Everyone has opportunities. Absolute care must be taken in the design of your virtual world to maintain this perception -- whether you consider it real or illusion is irrelevant.

Selling the game objectives in your world makes your game unfair and just reminds your customers of the inequities of the world they are trying to escape from. They literally won't buy this. Sell them opportunity, in the form of content, and they will buy up that opportunity with an enthusiasm that will shock you.

- http://gamasutra.com/view/feature/17...on_.php?page=4

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i.e. Sell players "content". Never ever sell the reward of the content.

e.g.

It's OK to sell access to a dungeon via a one-time fee - that is by and large what expansions are - but it's never OK to sell the dungeon drops.

I would like to see "rewards" for active use of the cash shop. Something to soften the bloe that the cash shop eveb exists, and a way to tell players "See? We're not total dicks"

Ie. Spend $50 in a month and get legacy fees for 3 months or maybe instore credit for longtime subscribers